V5 170 Sport-how can you can tell without driving?

V5 170 Sport-how can you can tell without driving?

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Dino D

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1,953 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd March 2006
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Hello all,

I'm looking at V5 golf's (maybe even Bora) but want the 170bhp with the optional sport pack (I believe this gives it the same suspension and brakes as GTI?)

How can you tell from looking at the ads if it:
a) is the 170bhp
b) has sports pack

The Autotrader ads are a bit misleading as some show 1999 models with 170bhp (was it only afetr 2001?) and none say 'sport'.

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

248 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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A 170 bhp will have a red '5' on the front and back V5 badges.

There is also a label in the spare wheel well that tells you which it is.

Sport pack lowers the suspension and the car sits noticeably lower.

Mine also had a rear spoiler above the hatch window but I don't know if this was definately part of the pack.

Do drive a sport pack equipped car before committing to purchase though, mine was fine on smooth A roads and motorways (where it spent most of its life), but very joggly and bouncy around town and on narrow uneven roads.


fattb

99 posts

227 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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Do you not fancy a 150 bhp GT TDI ? quicker than a V5

vee

3,100 posts

239 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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To be honest you should also take a look at 1.8Ts or V6s.
Once test driven I think you'll prefer either one to the V5.

If you give you local parts dept a call they'll tell you what the engine code (first 3 letters) is for a 170 and 150.
I did do a Google but couldn't find anything.

Dino D

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1,953 posts

226 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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Thanks guys.

I've not driven the v5 or v6 yet but did drive the 1.8t for a while. I found it a bit short on power, especially at the top end and the handling a bit bouncy (nothing a chip and eibach kit can't sort out though I believe). The attraction to the v5 is the sound-I grew up with 5cy audis and they sounded lovely. I'm sure with nice exhaust the v5 will sound gorgeous.

I'm a bit concerned by the consumption though. It appears that the v5 is not much more economical than the v6 but is certainly down on power.

My head tells me t oget a 1.8t and chip it and fit a nice induction kit/exhaust for sportier sound.Also I'll get the proper recaros.

I'm only looking to spend about 5-5.5k as you can get good 1.8t's for the money.

Diesel is not my thing.

vee

3,100 posts

239 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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Dino D said:
Thanks guys.

I'm only looking to spend about 5-5.5k as you can get good 1.8t's for the money.


Have 170 V5s fallen this low ?

Dino D

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1,953 posts

226 months

Saturday 25th March 2006
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vee said:
Dino D said:
Thanks guys.

I'm only looking to spend about 5-5.5k as you can get good 1.8t's for the money.


Have 170 V5s fallen this low ?


The higher mileage (70k+) 2001 onwards are going for that sort of money though I'm not entirely sure if they all are 170bhp..

mk1fan

10,622 posts

230 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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If you're budgeting £5 - £5.5k, unless you definately need a hatch, then have a look at the Bora.

They were more expensive than the Golf from new but depreciate more. You should find a newer car in better condition for your money.

A good point is that the standard specs are better than the eqivelant Golf's. Add this to the cheaper purchase price and I think they're a good package, if you intend to run the car for a few years.

Another plus is because of the relatively raree status of the car (compared to the Golf) most have been very well looked after and are in much better condition than their sibling Golf.

The V5 is better on fuel than the V6 mainly because the V6 mkiv was only officially available in the UK in 4wd form.

The 150 bhp model has 10V's, the 170bhp model has 20V's. Although the 20V responses better to modding the V6 and 1.8t have more options - remaps, superchargers and turbos.

I would be careful when checking the specs on cars. There was a model designated ST and one designated Sport. I think the ST was the turbo version of the S model which makes it the lowest spec. The other confusing thing was that the sports suspension was an option before becoming standard. And was an option on all the models except the S.

There is a sticker in the boot which has a list of codes which identify what the original spec was and what options were fitted by the factory. I don't have a schedule of the codes but you local dealer should be able to help.

The V5 and V6 both have the bigger brakes as standard as they are a heavier car than the GTI.

The V5 is a very popular car. You're right about the sound. If you haven't already check out www.uk-mkivs.net to find out more about the specs and models. Also check out www.borabase.com as there is a model spec list section (for the Bora).

Good luck and I hope this waffle is of some help.

Dino D

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226 months

Thursday 30th March 2006
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Cheers mk1fan. I have noticed that the V5 Boras do sell really cheap. If I went down the Bora road I would have to make it look like this as I could not been seen dead in a standard looking one!!
www.pistonheads.com/sales/68482.htm

In fact if I could afford the fuel I would buy this one as it has all the mods I would do. It's also pretty well priced as there are standard v6's going for more money on the autotrader althoug i doubt they fetch full price.

mk1fan

10,622 posts

230 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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I'd try and stretch the £'s to get that one. Loads of car for the money.

Dino D

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Tuesday 4th April 2006
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mk1fan said:
I'd try and stretch the £'s to get that one. Loads of car for the money.


Agree, i could afford to buy it but not afford to run it!
I actually contacted the seller. Its sold now. He got an average of 23mpg for normal driving and 19mpg with sporty driving I just can't justify (let alone afford!)such poor consumption for only 200 or so horsepower. No doubt it sounded great though...

monkeyhanger

9,232 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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The 1.8T with a decent re-map is hard to beat whatever body it comes in.

Quicker than it has any right to be and it will return 35+ mpg on a run.

Trans-Europe i've had 38mpg over 1000 miles out of mine running at 85-90.

vee

3,100 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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The V5 won't be much better than the V6
If you're worried about economy you'll be better off with a 1.8T

Dino D

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226 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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vee said:
The V5 won't be much better than the V6
If you're worried about economy you'll be better off with a 1.8T


Thats what I suspected and been confirmed by all on here. I realy would live to have v6/5 just for the sound but they are just too heavy on gas for the performance they deliver...Unless I buy a v and move to eastern europe where petrol is cheap eh!