Thinking of a corrado, which engine??
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www.the-corrado.net is a good place to start- plus there are buying guides available there too..
So long as the G60 has its charger serviced every 60K and isn't shagged to start with, its pretty reliable in standard tune.
The G60 is very easily uprated to 180BHP, however go higher (I know of people getting 200+from G60's) reliability starts to become a bit circumspect...
VR6 in standard are 190BHP. They are generally fairly reliable, however they will uise some oil (big engine).
Anywhere between 100-200K they may require a the timing chains to be renewed (the VR6 doesn't have cam-belt, just chains).. VW maintain that the chains should never need replacing however if it sounds abit 'rattly' then the tensioner may be on the way out ..
To tune a VR6 above 200BHP gets v. expensive however- you need to look at fitting shrick maniofolds, exhausts, chipping etc.. power over 230BHP really means turboing or supercharging (which costs 1.5-2K for supercharger kit). Supercharging can get you to 311BHP, turboing- I'm not sure..doesn't tend to be too common in the UK
In terms of drive, the VR6 is propbably the more relaxed cruiser, whereas the G60 is 'fun' as it where..
Both have outstanding handling for a FWD.
So long as the G60 has its charger serviced every 60K and isn't shagged to start with, its pretty reliable in standard tune.
The G60 is very easily uprated to 180BHP, however go higher (I know of people getting 200+from G60's) reliability starts to become a bit circumspect...
VR6 in standard are 190BHP. They are generally fairly reliable, however they will uise some oil (big engine).
Anywhere between 100-200K they may require a the timing chains to be renewed (the VR6 doesn't have cam-belt, just chains).. VW maintain that the chains should never need replacing however if it sounds abit 'rattly' then the tensioner may be on the way out ..
To tune a VR6 above 200BHP gets v. expensive however- you need to look at fitting shrick maniofolds, exhausts, chipping etc.. power over 230BHP really means turboing or supercharging (which costs 1.5-2K for supercharger kit). Supercharging can get you to 311BHP, turboing- I'm not sure..doesn't tend to be too common in the UK
In terms of drive, the VR6 is propbably the more relaxed cruiser, whereas the G60 is 'fun' as it where..
Both have outstanding handling for a FWD.
A bit more info-
2.0l 8v- very rare but a bit 'gutless' incomparison ...cheap (for a corrado) insurance though
1.8 16v and 2.0l 16v ..very good and reliable if looked after- obviously slower than VR or G60 but lower insurance groups too (14 for 16v vs 16 for G60 [I think] and 18 for the VR ..suggest you check this- I know the VR figure is right)
2.0l 8v- very rare but a bit 'gutless' incomparison ...cheap (for a corrado) insurance though
1.8 16v and 2.0l 16v ..very good and reliable if looked after- obviously slower than VR or G60 but lower insurance groups too (14 for 16v vs 16 for G60 [I think] and 18 for the VR ..suggest you check this- I know the VR figure is right)
hiasakite said:205bhp is easily attainable with a simple induction kit, enlarged throttle body and a remap. Possibly a little more if you throw in a sports exhaust as well.
To tune a VR6 above 200BHP gets v. expensive however- you need to look at fitting shrick maniofolds, exhausts, chipping etc.. power over 230BHP really means turboing or supercharging (which costs 1.5-2K for supercharger kit). Supercharging can get you to 311BHP
The supercharger conversion doesn't yield anything like 311bhp, I'm afraid. Generally most VR6 owners running superchragers see around 275bhp, although my knowledge of this is a little out of date I will admit.
Last time I looked at supercharging it was £5k+, but obviously prices have fallen.
Don't forget you can fit the variable-length inlet manifold (the VSR / VGI) which gives lots more low-down torque. Was always destined as standard fit but got axed by the beancounters.
JonRB said:
To tune a VR6 above 200BHP gets v. expensive however- you need to look at fitting shrick maniofolds, exhausts, chipping etc.. power over 230BHP really means turboing or supercharging (which costs 1.5-2K for supercharger kit). Supercharging can get you to 311BHP
The supercharger conversion doesn't yield anything like 311bhp, I'm afraid. Generally most VR6 owners running superchragers see around 275bhp, although my knowledge of this is a little out of date I will admit.
Last time I looked at supercharging it was £5k+, but obviously prices have fallen.
Don't forget you can fit the variable-length inlet manifold (the VSR / VGI) which gives lots more low-down torque. Was always destined as standard fit but got axed by the beancounters.
Sorry- as I said supercharging is not a cheap option by any means...to clarify supercharging alone will not get you 300BHP- the 311 BHP example has had just about everything done to it inc Schrick manifold, charger, charge cooler, rebore to 3.1l (I think- or maybe 3.2), waterinjection, remap etc..
As Jon said the Schrick/VSR manifold improves the low end torque considerably- however even that isn't exactly cheap...
The standard Corrado VR engine only really comes on cam from around 3K revs plus..despite being a 2.9 it doesn't feel 'that' quick at low revs.. although the car I would say is quicker than it 'feels' due to the smooth power delivery across the rev range..
hiasakite said:Oh, I quite agree. Around £1700 last time I looked, and I fear that may have been ex VAT too.
As Jon said the Schrick/VSR manifold improves the low end torque considerably- however even that isn't exactly cheap...
Having said that, I wish I'd had it done years ago as that would have been an acceptable 10% of the car's value (and I'd have had the use of it for years) rather than the 34% it would be now.
JonRB said:
A rather generous valuation of yr car there jon 'eh
They've been going up and down like yoyo's over last year and a bit...I'd say that they are at low at the moment...
main driver seems to be how many are for sale at any one time..
Jon it was a gag mate, but as youve asked, no I dont see yr car being worth even close to that figure.
Ive known a few average cars similar spec change hands lately at sub £3k, even as low as £2.5k for ok examples with history & 130k.
Other end of scale really really mint lower mile examples at £6k+
Just as an example a mate is watching this car is going on e-bay at the mo, few more miles on than yrs & needs a couple of bits sorting but at present with 23hrs to go its only at £1400 & the reserve is already met, interesting to see what it gets.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-VOLKSWAGEN-CORRADO-VR6-PU
Ive known a few average cars similar spec change hands lately at sub £3k, even as low as £2.5k for ok examples with history & 130k.
Other end of scale really really mint lower mile examples at £6k+
Just as an example a mate is watching this car is going on e-bay at the mo, few more miles on than yrs & needs a couple of bits sorting but at present with 23hrs to go its only at £1400 & the reserve is already met, interesting to see what it gets.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-VOLKSWAGEN-CORRADO-VR6-PU
iguana said:Christ on a Bike! And to think I paid £23k for mine when I bought it!!!
Just as an example a mate is watching this car is going on e-bay at the mo, few more miles on than yrs & needs a couple of bits sorting but at present with 23hrs to go its only at £1400 & the reserve is already met, interesting to see what it gets.
Still, having said that, if we say it's worth £3k now then that's still only £2k per year depreciation, which I guess isn't too terrible.
Oh well, if it is worth that little then I guess I may as well keep it.
I would recommend you taking some different engined Corrados out for a test run. That way you will be able to decide which one feels right for you. I'm a big fan of the VR6. That was always the one for me. My friend used to have a 16V and it was a bit gutless in comparison (probably more to do with the fact that it was not the best example out there and had the worst set of tyres and brakes imaginable). I've never experienced a G60. I gave them a wide berth because of the potential supercharger catastrophe. I guess that if you maintain them then you won't have too many worries. Same as most cars really.
JonRB said:
As Jon said the Schrick/VSR manifold improves the low end torque considerably- however even that isn't exactly cheap...
Yo. My Golf VR6 had a brand new Corrado 2.9 block fitted by Stealth Racing 12,000 miles ago. It's also got a Schrick manifold & cams, amongst a few other bits & pieces. I reckon if you shop about, you'd manage to get the manifold cheaper than £1,700. Mine was purchased as part of a group buy through the VR6 Owners Club and cost (I think, need to check receipts) in the region of £1,000.
For what it's worth, around this time last year, whilst still not run in, mine was rolling-roaded at 212bhp. The next step would be to have a 'charger or turbo fitted. The potential for the turbo conversions is amazing. I saw my first one in the flesh in December and it was bouncing off the rollers until a rather large chap sat in the passenger seat. Whilst I'm sure it rocks whilst on the move, it must be a nightmare getting traction from standstill.
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