VW Arteon and 2.0 TSI fuel economy
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I've seen some conflicting reports on the fuel economy of the VAG 2.0 TSI engine.
Considering a VW Arteon with this engine and have seen a few reports of over 50mpg on a steady 70mph motorway run, but then others have suggested high 30s or low 40s.
Does anyone have any experience of this engine and could shed some real world idea on what might be expected?
Considering a VW Arteon with this engine and have seen a few reports of over 50mpg on a steady 70mph motorway run, but then others have suggested high 30s or low 40s.
Does anyone have any experience of this engine and could shed some real world idea on what might be expected?
If it is a version of the EA888 used the Mk7 GTI, I average 35mpg from a tank but have a heavy right foot. I did a 125mi drive the other night at c. 70mph for most of it and averaged about 39.5mpg.
You can see 40+ if you spend a lot of time on 50mph roads but my driving is either 75mph on empty dual carriageways or driving on twisty Scottish roads with lots of acceleration.
You can see 40+ if you spend a lot of time on 50mph roads but my driving is either 75mph on empty dual carriageways or driving on twisty Scottish roads with lots of acceleration.
If it's a FWD Arteon and you drive normally rather than +20% of speed limits, then you should see mixed consumption starting with a 4....
I've only had a diesel Arteon and that would top 50mpg regularly, with 45mpg mixed (but my consumption is probably a tad higher than average it must be said!). However I've had the 190PS petrol + DSG combo in A4 and A5 of 2018-2020 vintage, and it's surprisingly economical.
4x4 variants absolutely destroy the fuel consumption in my experience (have had A4 and A6 quattros). And while dynamically the FWD struggles a bit for traction out of junctions/corners, I'd probably go FWD if getting another one.
I've only had a diesel Arteon and that would top 50mpg regularly, with 45mpg mixed (but my consumption is probably a tad higher than average it must be said!). However I've had the 190PS petrol + DSG combo in A4 and A5 of 2018-2020 vintage, and it's surprisingly economical.
4x4 variants absolutely destroy the fuel consumption in my experience (have had A4 and A6 quattros). And while dynamically the FWD struggles a bit for traction out of junctions/corners, I'd probably go FWD if getting another one.
Yes looking at a FWD Arteon with the DSG box.
I would normally go diesel but with a general move away from favouritism I thought I'd consider a petrol.
Starting with a 4 might be a bit low, unless it's 49
Just trying to get a feel for where I'd be on long runs as that's the only time I really bother to look at what I'm getting now so the only yard stock I have to compare.
I would normally go diesel but with a general move away from favouritism I thought I'd consider a petrol.
Starting with a 4 might be a bit low, unless it's 49
Just trying to get a feel for where I'd be on long runs as that's the only time I really bother to look at what I'm getting now so the only yard stock I have to compare.
Slackman99 said:
Considering a VW Arteon with this engine and have seen a few reports of over 50mpg on a steady 70mph motorway run, but then others have suggested high 30s or low 40s.
I've got a car with the EA888 2.0 engine, I've seen 50 as an average only once, and that was when I was in a 50 limit for 20 miles. High 30s, low 40s is much more realistic.I've driven with that engine in a Leon, and getting 50mpg on its display was only possible by sitting with the HGVs on the motorway. The display (as with most VAG cars) was also very optimistic in terms of its declared economy. 45mpg (which is what it displayed on a long steady motorway trip) was actually closer to 40 if you based it on the amount of fuel put in and the distance from Google Maps.
I can't imagine a much bigger car like the Arteon would do any better, but it's worth remembering that diesel is quite a bit more expensive than petrol to buy, and for anything recent the Adblue costs need to be included too. A petrol doing 40mpg wouldn't cost much more per mile than a diesel doing 50mpg.
I can't imagine a much bigger car like the Arteon would do any better, but it's worth remembering that diesel is quite a bit more expensive than petrol to buy, and for anything recent the Adblue costs need to be included too. A petrol doing 40mpg wouldn't cost much more per mile than a diesel doing 50mpg.
On a very steady run in my mate's manual Golf 7 GTi (230bhp) it was around 46-47mpg, absolutely tops on a steady & clear run. More realistically 38-42mpg ish. That same engine in a larger and heavier vehicle through a DSG box with 'realistic' motorway conditions, and you won't be returning 50mpg. You'd have to be in the 150bhp diesel for that IMO, as from my experience, even the 200bhp engine with DSG won't return that.
I ran a Mk7 Golf GTD (184) DSG for 3 years and it was very disappointing on fuel - the claimed 60.1mpg was so far from the truth, it was laughable.
I ran a Mk7 Golf GTD (184) DSG for 3 years and it was very disappointing on fuel - the claimed 60.1mpg was so far from the truth, it was laughable.
Edited by MattyD803 on Wednesday 28th September 16:48
Teebs said:
I have the 1.5Tsi Arteon and it'll do over 55mpg on a decent run.
The MPG is the only redeeming feature of the engine, gutless POS.
I've just had 5 days driving around the South of France in a Q2 with the 1.5 TSi engine (With the 2 cylinder shut down system) and on empty and open roads, steady crusing, in optimum temperature conditions, I barely managed 50mpg over my 600km trip....admittedly on a tight new engine, so you are doing well......but I wouldn't wish that engine on anyone. The 2 cylinder shut down mode made the whole car vibrate like a bearing had failed and barely increased the MPG.The MPG is the only redeeming feature of the engine, gutless POS.
MattyD803 said:
I've just had 5 days driving around the South of France in a Q2 with the 1.5 TSi engine (With the 2 cylinder shut down system) and on empty and open roads, steady crusing, in optimum temperature conditions, I barely managed 50mpg over my 600km trip....admittedly on a tight new engine, so you are doing well......but I wouldn't wish that engine on anyone. The 2 cylinder shut down mode made the whole car vibrate like a bearing had failed and barely increased the MPG.
I'd always wondered about that but recently got a Tiguan courtesy car with that engine - did a bit of a motorway run and either way the change was imperceptible.I have to say 50MPG from the Q2 sounds pretty good - it doesn't seem long ago that 30MPG was an achievement from almost any petrol engine.
Sheepshanks said:
I'd always wondered about that but recently got a Tiguan courtesy car with that engine - did a bit of a motorway run and either way the change was imperceptible.
I have to say 50MPG from the Q2 sounds pretty good - it doesn't seem long ago that 30MPG was an achievement from almost any petrol engine.
Sorry, I should clarify, 50mpg was not the long term 'average' for my trip, that was the 'short term average' that I could just about manage on a steady motorway section of my journey. The average over the rental term including a bit of city work in Bordeaux was 42.5mpg (6.6l/100km).I have to say 50MPG from the Q2 sounds pretty good - it doesn't seem long ago that 30MPG was an achievement from almost any petrol engine.
For 150bhp and a fair chunk of torque, not horrendous sure, but to be fair I was seeing 40mpg out of my 2004 Civic Type R....hardly much of an evolution, all things considered...
Edited by MattyD803 on Wednesday 28th September 16:49
MattyD803 said:
For 150bhp and a fair chunk of torque, not horrendous sure, but to be fair I was seeing 40mpg out of my 2004 Civic Type R....hardly much of an evolution, all things considered....
Going back to that sort of time we had a bunch of diesel Accords at work and they wouldn't do 40MPG.Sheepshanks said:
Going back to that sort of time we had a bunch of diesel Accords at work and they wouldn't do 40MPG.
Interesting, because I had a 2.2 i-CDTi CRV (manual) on a 05 plate that would give 50mpg with EASE on a steady motorway run. Hell, that replaced my 2004 Accord 2.4 Type S Touring which would give me 35mpg on the run to Southampton and back, so I would imagine we are comparing apples with bananas here, in terms of driving conditions and style.An accord 2.2 diesel giving <40mpg on a steady motorway run either had serious engine issues and/or the throttle was being treated like an on/off switch.
Again, to be clear, I'm talking 'optimum' cruising speeds on a fairly clear motorway, no town work.
MattyD803 said:
Sorry, I should clarify, 50mpg was not the long term 'average' for my trip, that was the 'short term average' that I could just about manage on a steady motorway section of my journey. The average over the rental term including a bit of city work in Bordeaux was 42.5mpg (6.6l/100km).
For 150bhp and a fair chunk of torque, not horrendous sure, but to be fair I was seeing 40mpg out of my 2004 Civic Type R....hardly much of an evolution, all things considered...
Long term average in the Arteon is 45mpg over 55k miles...For 150bhp and a fair chunk of torque, not horrendous sure, but to be fair I was seeing 40mpg out of my 2004 Civic Type R....hardly much of an evolution, all things considered...
Edited by MattyD803 on Wednesday 28th September 16:49
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