RSQ3 test drive..... help
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Went out for a test drive today, seriously considering chopping my f type in for one of these as have a nipper now.
One thing I noticed that I found strange, dunno if it was the driving setup but in dynamic mode, if I was tootling along in 4th going 40 and slapped my foot down, there was no response at all.
I know its probably cos I'm not used to driving a 7 speed and the ratios are totally different, but I'd have expected some response at least. Particularly in dynamic as id expect the car to actually drop down to the relevant gear and accelerate away.
Just felt a bit underwhelming, didn't help as had the audi guy in and the traffic was a pain so not much areas I could even give it some beans.
Was it the setup? Or is this normal and id be expected to knock it down the gears myself?
One thing I noticed that I found strange, dunno if it was the driving setup but in dynamic mode, if I was tootling along in 4th going 40 and slapped my foot down, there was no response at all.
I know its probably cos I'm not used to driving a 7 speed and the ratios are totally different, but I'd have expected some response at least. Particularly in dynamic as id expect the car to actually drop down to the relevant gear and accelerate away.
Just felt a bit underwhelming, didn't help as had the audi guy in and the traffic was a pain so not much areas I could even give it some beans.
Was it the setup? Or is this normal and id be expected to knock it down the gears myself?
Personally I’d go for the A rather than Q body format as a home for that 2.5 5-cylinder (I’ve run A/S/RS3 with kids more or less continuously)… but either way it should be monumentally quick. I suspect more so once you get used to using the DSG. There are various tricks like using the paddle shifters, drive mode settings and even software remapping for the ‘box if needs be.
t in an RSQ3. We test drove one for the missus and it detracted from what was quite a fun car. wyson said:
That is just DSG. Can take upto 2 seconds to process a change. VAG dual clutch boxes notorious for being dim witted and jerky at slow speeds eg, in stop start traffic or parking.
Not my experience in my two cars with DSG & another 3 owned by 2 friends. A mix of 6-speed wet clutch & 7-speed dry clutch. Have you owned a car with DSG?
Glosphil said:
Not my experience in my two cars with DSG & another 3 owned by 2 friends. A mix of 6-speed wet clutch & 7-speed dry clutch.
Have you owned a car with DSG?
Interesting. In what situations do you drive?Have you owned a car with DSG?
And no I haven’t owned a car with DSG. As a member of zipcar, I’ve driven about 6 different DSG 200 equipped cars, attached to 1.4tsi, 1.6 fsi and 1.2 tsi engines on a frequent basis and they all sucked to high heaven around town. They were older cars though. I heard they improved recently, although reviewers still comment VAG DSG’s are dim and slow witted compared to best of breed like Porsche PDK.
I’ve read its a limitation of the technology, because it has to predict and preselect a gear. So it if you ask it to change down, when it thinks you want to change up, things can take a while to sort themselves out and the clutches have to disengage and engage multiple times to select a suitable gear.
I’ve definitely had buttock clenching moments stuck without drive, admittedly in earlier iterations of DSG, however what the op is describing just sounds typical from my experience.
Those experiences totally put me off DSG and I brought a manual Golf, 60% of the time which sits in London traffic. Left leg gets a workout but I find that preferable to those early DSG 200 boxes I drove.
Edited by wyson on Sunday 19th June 23:09
Glosphil said:
wyson said:
That is just DSG. Can take upto 2 seconds to process a change. VAG dual clutch boxes notorious for being dim witted and jerky at slow speeds eg, in stop start traffic or parking.
Not my experience in my two cars with DSG & another 3 owned by 2 friends. A mix of 6-speed wet clutch & 7-speed dry clutch. Have you owned a car with DSG?
TX.
wyson said:
That is just DSG. Can take upto 2 seconds to process a change. VAG dual clutch boxes notorious for being dim witted and jerky at slow speeds eg, in stop start traffic or parking.
If you have the car in Eco / Comfort mode, the gearbox is deliberately "lazy", changing up asap.In my view, "Auto" is the best setting.
JohnnyUK said:
If you have the car in Eco / Comfort mode, the gearbox is deliberately "lazy", changing up asap.
In my view, "Auto" is the best setting.
In London traffic, I used to leave them in Sport as it would reduce the shunting in stop start traffic. Was much better to let the car scream round the rev range in 1st rather than shuffle up and down the gears continuously. Honestly was painful doing that.In my view, "Auto" is the best setting.
I suppose I’m grateful in one respect though, I learned from Eco mode that you can drive in such a high gear, the car starts to labour and you get more MPG. Getting about 20% more mpg copying ECO mode in my manual Golf. Need it now a full tank of fuel is £90. Christ.
Edited by wyson on Wednesday 22 June 20:15
I have the 340bhp version and it can be a bit jerky but not something that put me off the car. I regularly switch between D-mode and S-mode - it's different from a BMW M-car for instance but just as effective. MPG is fine compared with my other cars but compared to Audi S1 it replaced (as expected) the fifth cylinder is noticed!
Update: I will hold off on a recommendation until they sort the slow coolant leak on my car. Didn't find anything first time (and no report) and it's going back a second time. Never had a problem with BMW service .. something i'm not yet convinced about with Audi dealers.
Update: I will hold off on a recommendation until they sort the slow coolant leak on my car. Didn't find anything first time (and no report) and it's going back a second time. Never had a problem with BMW service .. something i'm not yet convinced about with Audi dealers.
Edited by fido on Thursday 23 June 15:53
Terminator X] said:
Well I owned it for 2.5 years and 40k miles ...
Most recent cars - RS3, RS4, M5C, M2C.
TX.
I have had both of those BMWs, and the gearboxes were far better than the RSQ3's, which did not feel to the job. Most recent cars - RS3, RS4, M5C, M2C.
TX.
Each to their own of course, but, I am intrigued as to how you think it is the best one you have owned of that list.
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