Anyone ordering an ID Buzz
Discussion
Just wondering if anyone has or is in the process of ordering and ID Buzz, I think it looks great, and compared to all the EV SUV's out there I think it could be a winner for me, get bikes in it easily enough, could be a good day van too.
I suspect there will be a pile on for them, wondered if anyone had been to VW yet to try and get an order in?
I suspect there will be a pile on for them, wondered if anyone had been to VW yet to try and get an order in?
It the extra price that ev,s command over their ice equivalents.
That extra cost will take around 3 to 4 years to break even for the average motorists.
The pcps are miles apart too, you can get a tiguan for 350 a month 4k down and an id 4 is 8k down and 450 a month!
Its a strange world?
That extra cost will take around 3 to 4 years to break even for the average motorists.
The pcps are miles apart too, you can get a tiguan for 350 a month 4k down and an id 4 is 8k down and 450 a month!
Its a strange world?
Deposit done.
I have a few reservations besides the terrible multi media interface in the iD4 that I had on loan for 4 weeks - I do hope they have faster chips in the Buzz:
- This is a car for people with kids. I hope I misread the brochure, but who in their right mind would only allow one option for a black interior which is on the base model and 5 trim options that include white and pale colours! I don't want white on the doors, seats or roof liming - basically anything they will get dirty within 5 mins!
- Shame the top spec only comes with silly-sized wheels. I'll probably have to get a set of 19" to make the ride more comfortable.
- No mention yet of options; I'm going to need roof bars and a tow bar. Hopefully the options list will be available in a few weeks.
Have a deposit on a Model Y too.
Will probably take the Buzz though.
Hopefully the Buzz will have better build quality. It certainly looks better. And would appear to be much more useful for a family with more load space and a sliding side door.
I'm hoping range will be fine - 95% of all driving is done reasonably locally.
On the other hand, the Tesla has better battery management, is faster and has 4 wheel drive (steep driveway to tackle) - all things VW can't offer.
And the different approaches to the ordering experience made me smile.
Tesla - go online, register my interest, and a few months' later pay £100 deposit and the order is placed.
VW - mention it to a local dealer several months ago. Register my interest online several weeks' ago. Get a form to fill in to register my interest again (this week). Get a call from my dealer to pay a £2000! deposit. Get an email with an attachment of a hand written receipt. And in a few days (no idea when) I'll get a call from VW to discuss spec. It's like going back in time 20 years!
I have a few reservations besides the terrible multi media interface in the iD4 that I had on loan for 4 weeks - I do hope they have faster chips in the Buzz:
- This is a car for people with kids. I hope I misread the brochure, but who in their right mind would only allow one option for a black interior which is on the base model and 5 trim options that include white and pale colours! I don't want white on the doors, seats or roof liming - basically anything they will get dirty within 5 mins!
- Shame the top spec only comes with silly-sized wheels. I'll probably have to get a set of 19" to make the ride more comfortable.
- No mention yet of options; I'm going to need roof bars and a tow bar. Hopefully the options list will be available in a few weeks.
Have a deposit on a Model Y too.
Will probably take the Buzz though.
Hopefully the Buzz will have better build quality. It certainly looks better. And would appear to be much more useful for a family with more load space and a sliding side door.
I'm hoping range will be fine - 95% of all driving is done reasonably locally.
On the other hand, the Tesla has better battery management, is faster and has 4 wheel drive (steep driveway to tackle) - all things VW can't offer.
And the different approaches to the ordering experience made me smile.
Tesla - go online, register my interest, and a few months' later pay £100 deposit and the order is placed.
VW - mention it to a local dealer several months ago. Register my interest online several weeks' ago. Get a form to fill in to register my interest again (this week). Get a call from my dealer to pay a £2000! deposit. Get an email with an attachment of a hand written receipt. And in a few days (no idea when) I'll get a call from VW to discuss spec. It's like going back in time 20 years!
Totally agree on so many of these points! The wheel size thing is genuinely annoying. The bank transfer email from my local VW dealer was hilariously lowfi. Even JLR do better than that 
I did get emailed a brochure on Wednesday morning - have you got one yet?
I did get emailed a brochure on Wednesday morning - have you got one yet?elmroad said:
Deposit done.
I have a few reservations besides the terrible multi media interface in the iD4 that I had on loan for 4 weeks - I do hope they have faster chips in the Buzz:
- This is a car for people with kids. I hope I misread the brochure, but who in their right mind would only allow one option for a black interior which is on the base model and 5 trim options that include white and pale colours! I don't want white on the doors, seats or roof liming - basically anything they will get dirty within 5 mins!
- Shame the top spec only comes with silly-sized wheels. I'll probably have to get a set of 19" to make the ride more comfortable.
- No mention yet of options; I'm going to need roof bars and a tow bar. Hopefully the options list will be available in a few weeks.
Have a deposit on a Model Y too.
Will probably take the Buzz though.
Hopefully the Buzz will have better build quality. It certainly looks better. And would appear to be much more useful for a family with more load space and a sliding side door.
I'm hoping range will be fine - 95% of all driving is done reasonably locally.
On the other hand, the Tesla has better battery management, is faster and has 4 wheel drive (steep driveway to tackle) - all things VW can't offer.
And the different approaches to the ordering experience made me smile.
Tesla - go online, register my interest, and a few months' later pay £100 deposit and the order is placed.
VW - mention it to a local dealer several months ago. Register my interest online several weeks' ago. Get a form to fill in to register my interest again (this week). Get a call from my dealer to pay a £2000! deposit. Get an email with an attachment of a hand written receipt. And in a few days (no idea when) I'll get a call from VW to discuss spec. It's like going back in time 20 years!
I have a few reservations besides the terrible multi media interface in the iD4 that I had on loan for 4 weeks - I do hope they have faster chips in the Buzz:
- This is a car for people with kids. I hope I misread the brochure, but who in their right mind would only allow one option for a black interior which is on the base model and 5 trim options that include white and pale colours! I don't want white on the doors, seats or roof liming - basically anything they will get dirty within 5 mins!
- Shame the top spec only comes with silly-sized wheels. I'll probably have to get a set of 19" to make the ride more comfortable.
- No mention yet of options; I'm going to need roof bars and a tow bar. Hopefully the options list will be available in a few weeks.
Have a deposit on a Model Y too.
Will probably take the Buzz though.
Hopefully the Buzz will have better build quality. It certainly looks better. And would appear to be much more useful for a family with more load space and a sliding side door.
I'm hoping range will be fine - 95% of all driving is done reasonably locally.
On the other hand, the Tesla has better battery management, is faster and has 4 wheel drive (steep driveway to tackle) - all things VW can't offer.
And the different approaches to the ordering experience made me smile.
Tesla - go online, register my interest, and a few months' later pay £100 deposit and the order is placed.
VW - mention it to a local dealer several months ago. Register my interest online several weeks' ago. Get a form to fill in to register my interest again (this week). Get a call from my dealer to pay a £2000! deposit. Get an email with an attachment of a hand written receipt. And in a few days (no idea when) I'll get a call from VW to discuss spec. It's like going back in time 20 years!
Prompted by the pre-order invitation, I had a proper think about this and decided that an ICE-powered van is still a better fit for our needs.
There are sufficient public rapid chargers to overcome the fact that we live on a terraced street, but like many in this target market we currently have a van capable of gaining 6-800 miles' range with a 5-minute fuel stop thanks to an 80-litre tank. A Buzz would offer a realistic 200-mile range once loaded, which means - say - adding an hour to rapid-charge before boarding the ferry, and then another at a second stop at a service station in France, before finally reaching a rural destination (and needing a third charge). Local public charging for our admittedly more frequent domestic use is still a lifestyle commitment without home charging... fancy an hour wait at a nearby industrial estate every 2 weeks?
I can see why VW have invested in offering a completely new MQB-based Multivan alongside the Buzz, for now at least available with diesel, petrol and plug-in options. These come with plusher specs for realistically around 10% less outlay than a Buzz - but it feels like depreciation will be heavier given that this is still going to be a £55-60k late ICE-era purchase.
Buying either a Buzz and Multivan would mean trading-in our T5 and RS3, adding probably another £15k to their resale values but evening-out overall due to lower ongoing costs. For now, I'm going to leave things as they are and keep the current setup.
There are sufficient public rapid chargers to overcome the fact that we live on a terraced street, but like many in this target market we currently have a van capable of gaining 6-800 miles' range with a 5-minute fuel stop thanks to an 80-litre tank. A Buzz would offer a realistic 200-mile range once loaded, which means - say - adding an hour to rapid-charge before boarding the ferry, and then another at a second stop at a service station in France, before finally reaching a rural destination (and needing a third charge). Local public charging for our admittedly more frequent domestic use is still a lifestyle commitment without home charging... fancy an hour wait at a nearby industrial estate every 2 weeks?
I can see why VW have invested in offering a completely new MQB-based Multivan alongside the Buzz, for now at least available with diesel, petrol and plug-in options. These come with plusher specs for realistically around 10% less outlay than a Buzz - but it feels like depreciation will be heavier given that this is still going to be a £55-60k late ICE-era purchase.
Buying either a Buzz and Multivan would mean trading-in our T5 and RS3, adding probably another £15k to their resale values but evening-out overall due to lower ongoing costs. For now, I'm going to leave things as they are and keep the current setup.
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