AUDI A5 upgrade 1.8t engine to a S5 3.0 tfsi CAUA engine

AUDI A5 upgrade 1.8t engine to a S5 3.0 tfsi CAUA engine

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saj1011

Original Poster:

6 posts

132 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Hello,

Hope i am posting in right place.

any advice welcome.

i am looking to upgrade the 1.8t PETROL engine to a S5 3.0 tfsi CAUA engine i believe would be best engine model fit after some research as manual also.
i have a 1.8t CJEE 177 PS car, manual gearbox.

what else do i need to be aware of and purchase?

new brake system?
new gearbox?
new axles?
anything else?
are these necessary?

i was hoping the original gearbox would be ok

i would employ a qualified mechanic of course.

thanks


J4CKO

42,880 posts

207 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Thats a massive job, different generations of A5 I think as well, isnt one 4wd and the other fwd ?


cheesesliceking

1,573 posts

247 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Loads more, ECU, loom, radiator, AC system, BCM’s etc.


mickyh7

2,347 posts

93 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Wouldn't the ECU have to be totally reprogrammed for all of those changes?
And as said a massive job, if it all fits.
Would it not be more cost effective just to buy an older S5 and do it up ?

blue_haddock

3,871 posts

74 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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mickyh7 said:
Would it not be more cost effective just to buy an older S5 and do it up ?
This is exactly my thinking, sell your current car and just buy an S5.

It will be cheaper, quicker, hold its value better and be more reliable.

thewarlock

3,261 posts

52 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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CAUA is the V8 engine code from the Mk1 hardtop, not any of the V6 options.

Limpet

6,520 posts

168 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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The electronics alone will make this not worth doing, IMO.

You'll have to transplant multiple control units, plus things like instrument clusters and even then you're going to have to undertake extensive rewiring. That's without the work involved in physically making the thing fit.

The old days of stuffing a bigger engine in a car, maybe fabricating a few engine and transmission mounts, perhaps getting some custom driveshafts made, and hacking the wiring about a bit are long gone.

My advice would be to just buy a 3.0 A5.

andyvvc

242 posts

150 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Wasn't your last post an odd one too? About ripping out the convertible bits from a BMW and using it as a track car: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

If your last thread worked out for you (are you good with a set of spanners etc?) then i'd say go for the engine swap. If you aren't all that hands-on; the swap sounds like a real money-sink.

wpa1975

10,202 posts

121 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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I would sell it and buy S5, never worth the time and hassle in swapping

catso

14,854 posts

274 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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saj1011 said:
i would employ a qualified mechanic of course.
Apart from all the other stuff mentioned above, I would think the labour alone might come close on the price to swap for an S5?

Unless you can do all the work yourself and already have, or can get cheap, all the parts then this will likely cost way more than buying an S5 and, ultimately be worth much less if you ever sell it.

But, if you do it I'd be interested to read about it.

Edited by catso on Friday 8th April 13:58

mickyh7

2,347 posts

93 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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i would employ a qualified mechanic of course.

I'd love to see the Labour Invoice!

blue_haddock

3,871 posts

74 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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andyvvc said:
Wasn't your last post an odd one too? About ripping out the convertible bits from a BMW and using it as a track car: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

If your last thread worked out for you (are you good with a set of spanners etc?) then i'd say go for the engine swap. If you aren't all that hands-on; the swap sounds like a real money-sink.
The school holidays have started early in some areas.......

AudiSport

1,470 posts

223 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Or, just buy an A5, that already has the 3.0TFSI Supercharged engine, and simply spend a few hundred pounds to bring it up to 370bhp 😎



I’ve not had it remapped, as the standard 260 (ish) bhp is already sufficient, however I’m told with a Revo remap plus small pulley the bhp is 400+ !!

Novexx

353 posts

81 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Save a fortune - go buy an RS5.

The Road Crew

4,255 posts

167 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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saj1011 said:
any advice welcome.


i would employ a qualified mechanic of course.

thanks
What budget do you think you'll achieve this with?

"never build a car you can buy"

Just buy an S5. Converting yours will cost way more than you imagine (as you're not capable of DIYing it) and it'll take forever.

Pessimism/Reality.... You decide!

andyvvc

242 posts

150 months

Saturday 9th April 2022
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blue_haddock said:
The school holidays have started early in some areas.......
I suspect as much. But part of me is hoping that the OP really did go down the convertible-track-car route; and it was a success. And that the OP will post up here in a few months showing the progress of the engine swap . . .


Or possibly not.

AJB88

13,432 posts

178 months

Saturday 9th April 2022
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Just buy the car with the correct engine.


Years ago a lad I knew locally had a SEAT Ibiza 1.4 16v and he paid some company locally ££££ to fit the 1.8T engine out of the Ibiza FR/Cupra simply because he liked the colour of his car.

We all told him just buy the 1.8T car and have it painted but he didn't listen, what he ended up with was an unreliable car that kept breaking down.

shtu

3,712 posts

153 months

Saturday 9th April 2022
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blue_haddock said:
The school holidays have started early in some areas.......
Pretty much that.

Years-old account, 4 posts, at least 2 of them about obviously-pointless conversions.

Regular having a little holiday troll?

saj1011

Original Poster:

6 posts

132 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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Thanks for advice.
Looks like i should sell it and just give in and buy the S5 etc next Summer!
Love my car though, I also put in a full leather interior.
;-(

mickyh7

2,347 posts

93 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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You'll get there Mate, sometimes it just takes a little longer than you wish !