Cambelt and Water Pump
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shocky1

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10 posts

81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Hello,

My Seat Ibiza 64 plate is due a cambelt and water pump change and I just wanted to know roughly how much it should cost to change?
I have been quoted £540 by the garage I usually use but a number of people have told me this seems expensive.

Thanks

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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What engine model is your car?

Demelitia

689 posts

86 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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https://www.clickmechanic.com/price-estimates/seat...

On balance that does seem expensive.

shocky1

Original Poster:

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81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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rallycross said:
What engine model is your car?
It is a 1.4.

shocky1

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81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Demelitia said:
https://www.clickmechanic.com/price-estimates/seat...

On balance that does seem expensive.
I thought so which is why I wanted to seek advice before committing.

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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shocky1 said:
It is a 1.4.
Petrol or diesel and 16v or 8v?

shocky1

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81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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rallycross said:
Petrol or diesel and 16v or 8v?
It's petrol.

Sorry I am not sure if it's 16v or 8v so I'll post a few details below:

Reg - SD64 XVY (Ibiza Toca)
1390 CC
139 G/km

Engine number - CGG A84088

Does that help or do you need more information from the V5?

Thanks for your patience.

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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It’s a 16v model and you should be able to get the job done for quite a bit less on that model .
I think it’s around £150 for the parts at trade price) (cambelt kit including water pump & coolant) phone Your local TPS for an accurate price.

Find a good small garage to do it, where are you located?

Mexman

2,442 posts

114 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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What makes you think it's due..
Seat increased the cambelt intervals some time ago, most are now due at 130k kilometers, around 80k miles.

shocky1

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81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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rallycross said:
It’s a 16v model and you should be able to get the job done for quite a bit less on that model .
I think it’s around £150 for the parts at trade price) (cambelt kit including water pump & coolant) phone Your local TPS for an accurate price.

Find a good small garage to do it, where are you located?
Thanks for your help.

I am located in Preston.

shocky1

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81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Mexman said:
What makes you think it's due..
Seat increased the cambelt intervals some time ago, most are now due at 130k kilometers, around 80k miles.
Hello,

The Seat dealer contacted me to say it was due. I've done 50'000 miles.

The local garage said it was fine but said I should look at getting it done at some point. The local Halfords Autocentre said the same.

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

286 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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SEAT main dealer is fixed price £399 for the petrol cambelt change and it comes with a 5 year warranty. We've just had our 64 plate 150bhp 1.4 TSi Leon done, initially the service rep that booked us in queried whether the 1.4 TSI was covered under this fixed price as it's apparently ~5 hours work to change it, but its not mentioned in the exclusions so they did it no problem.

https://www.seat.co.uk/owners/your-seat/servicing-...

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

286 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Oh and the water pump on the EA211 series of 1.4 engines is driven by a seperate belt on the other end of the engine so changing it with the cambelt doesn't save any money and its less likely to cause big damage if it did fail.

shocky1

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81 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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LocoBlade said:
Oh and the water pump on the EA211 series of 1.4 engines is driven by a seperate belt on the other end of the engine so changing it with the cambelt doesn't save any money and its less likely to cause big damage if it did fail.
Hi,
I contacted the local Seat dealer and they have quoted me £480 for the cambelt and water pump work.
They confirmed it should be changed every five years and mine was just overdue but didn't comment when I asked if it should be based on mileage. I've only done 50'000 miles.

Cheapest good small garage quote I've found at moment is £300. Imagine I can probably find it even cheaper if I call around.

mawallace

184 posts

103 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Might be different but I was told on my wife's Astra that you should change belt at x years, regardless of mileage, as they degrade over time.

Sheepshanks

41,173 posts

149 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Mexman said:
What makes you think it's due..
Seat increased the cambelt intervals some time ago, most are now due at 130k kilometers, around 80k miles.
VAG in the UK say it's 5yrs (4yrs pre 2009) and they're pretty insistant that it must be done.

Annoying because in some other contries they go on mileage, and sometimes it's only "inspect at" You'll see everything from 120K miles upwards quoted.

Wife's diesel Tiguan (EA288) was touted as being a 'lifetime' belt, but VW UK are still saying 5yrs. As the implications of it breaking are pretty catastrophic you'd have to be brave to ignore it.

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

286 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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shocky1 said:
LocoBlade said:
Oh and the water pump on the EA211 series of 1.4 engines is driven by a seperate belt on the other end of the engine so changing it with the cambelt doesn't save any money and its less likely to cause big damage if it did fail.
Hi,
I contacted the local Seat dealer and they have quoted me £480 for the cambelt and water pump work.
They confirmed it should be changed every five years and mine was just overdue but didn't comment when I asked if it should be based on mileage. I've only done 50'000 miles.

Cheapest good small garage quote I've found at moment is £300. Imagine I can probably find it even cheaper if I call around.
Ours has only done 50k as well but comes up 5 years old next week so had it changed before we do a ski trip to the Alps in it next month. To be honest £480 is a pretty good price for both the cambelt and water pump from the dealer considering the time the cambelt takes on its own and the water pump is a seperate job. £300 sounds almost too cheap for what must be 7 hours work in total plus a cambelt kit, a new water pump and new coolant etc which must be £150+ in parts.

Sheepshanks

41,173 posts

149 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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LocoBlade said:
£300 sounds almost too cheap for what must be 7 hours work in total plus a cambelt kit, a new water pump and new coolant etc which must be £150+ in parts.
Gove over! If it was 7hrs it'd be a £1000+ job at a dealer. It's 2-3hrs on a VW.

And EA211 engine is another where the belt was supposed to be lifetime but VW is still insisting on 5yr replacement,

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

286 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Sheepshanks said:
Gove over! If it was 7hrs it'd be a £1000+ job at a dealer. It's 2-3hrs on a VW.

And EA211 engine is another where the belt was supposed to be lifetime but VW is still insisting on 5yr replacement,
2-3 hours to change the cambelt on one end of the engine AND change the water pump on the other end? Give over.

Sheepshanks

41,173 posts

149 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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LocoBlade said:
2-3 hours to change the cambelt on one end of the engine AND change the water pump on the other end? Give over.
I don't think it's routine to change the water pump on these, for the reason you stated - it's at the other end. It's also a complex (and therefore expensive) pump.

The thinking on older engines was that you might as well do it while you were in there, and it was thought that releasing the tension on the pump can cause them to start leaking. It added £50 to the cost.