Brake upgrade Mk7 Golf GTi CS
Brake upgrade Mk7 Golf GTi CS
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breadvan

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2,121 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Evening all

I’ve recently bought a Golf CS ED40 primarily to learn track craft.

I’ve booked Thruxton and Spa so far this year but before I go I want to make sure the brakes are up for the job.

Previously, I’ve upgraded my F80 M3 with RS29 pads, Hel lines and racing fluid for a trip to the ‘ring and they were excellent.

So my question is, what’s the best set up for the Golf?

I’m happy to replace the discs/pads/lines/fluid but want to keep the calipers if possible (pp).

I’m not sure if the TCR discs are best or even if they’ll fit?

Any recommendations from the PH collective would be much appreciated, cheers.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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moxy89

158 posts

182 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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as above rs29 pads, hel lines, and vagbrem J hooks, maybe consider the TTRS 4 pot kit as a nice oem+ upgrade

breadvan

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2,121 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Thanks both for your replies.

I did use Mike at Vagbremtechnic who certainly knows his stuff. I'd happily recommend him to others.

The only issue now is the dreaded front pad rattle in the caliper with the RSL29s. I really don't like it, they rattle on anything other perfectly flat tarmac.

I'd be really grateful of any pointers of how to rectify. If I can't fix, I'll put OEM pads back in and see how they last at Thruxston next week......

thanks in advance.

breadvan

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2,121 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Heres a photo, you can see where they are moving....


anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Without stating the obvious, are they the right pads? Looking at the picture, they don't look wide enough for the calipers. You can see on the bottom of the caliper that it is a few mm's too short. I think you have the wrong pads. Give VBT a call asap.

breadvan

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2,121 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Yep, definitely the right pad, Ferodo are the same apparently.

I plan to put oem in for Monday and do more research for a longer term solution.

How are oem pads on track?

rob1234

928 posts

227 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Have you considered OEM Clubsport S pads? Different compound and bound to fit the calipers properly.

breadvan

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2,121 posts

198 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Didn’t know that, thanks.

I’ve put oem in for now and they’re bedding in nicely. Not too sure how they’ll cope on Monday at Thruxton but the weather forecast is pants so should I be ok.

I’ve found a very good parts guy at my local VW dealer and we checked TCR pads (but they are the same part number - despite some mags saying they’re upgraded) but I didn’t think to check CCS pads.

I’ll look into it, thanks.

Mr911lover

367 posts

176 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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rob1234 said:
Have you considered OEM Clubsport S pads? Different compound and bound to fit the calipers properly.
Didn't know the clubsport s pads were different, anymore info on them?

rob1234

928 posts

227 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Haven't used them personally (got OEM on mine, which I find more than adequate for road driving), but know they did a different compound for the Clubsport S.

CS front pads are 8V0698151C or 5Q0698151K - c.£120
CSS ones are 5Q0698151G - c.£160

Might be worth getting more cooling - this is an near-OEM and cheap solution using RS3 cooling air deflectors: https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41...

From the VW press release: "To further improve the hot braking performance, the Golf GTI Clubsport S also leaves the factory with special brake pads on the front and rear axles."

From Evo: "the brakes get specific pads and aluminium bowls that enable the discs to expand under sustained track work without warping."

Edited by rob1234 on Tuesday 17th September 12:06

breadvan

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2,121 posts

198 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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CSS pads going in next week ready for Spa. Thanks very much for the tip.

BTW, the standard pads worked well at Thruxton with little or no fade but they were smoking like crazy at the end of the day and now they grumble when hot!

rob1234

928 posts

227 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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breadvan said:
CSS pads going in next week ready for Spa. Thanks very much for the tip.

BTW, the standard pads worked well at Thruxton with little or no fade but they were smoking like crazy at the end of the day and now they grumble when hot!
Any review from your Spa trip?