MK7/7.5 Golf GTI MPG
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As per another thread I'm considering a new Polo GTI. It has the same EA888 motor as the GTI/R but tuned to 200bhp. As it's a new car there's no MPG figures so thought the closest comparison is a current Mk7.5 Golf GTI. If anyone has real world figures it'd be appreciated.
I do 22-25k per annum so MPG is fairly important, cheers.
I do 22-25k per annum so MPG is fairly important, cheers.
There's a relevant difference regarding the engine: looks like the Polo gets the latest B Cycle version of the EA888 mildly breathed on for 200 PS. See [1]. This is a replacement for the 1.8 that is being discontinued. The Miller-cycle style engine should make it pretty efficient, and they claim to have made it more responsive compared to the 1.8 (smaller turbo).
I've not driven it myself but consensus seems to be that it's less willing higher up in the power band. But gives a good shove further down. Which does not sound ideal for some. But in a more 'grown up' hot hatch it should work -- especially with the mileage you do. I can see this fitting the new Polo GTI very nicely. Literally a very grown up super mini hatch
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Speaking of MPG, even the standard GTI is pretty decent IMO. I currently get around 32 out of a tank on average, but on slow Autobahn (~ 75 mph) stints it creeps close to 40. That's with a Mk 7.5 GTI Performance and 225/40/18 Michelin PSS. Rims also wider and stick out a bit more than stock (ET45 8"). So not optimised for effiency at all.
Edit: regarding quoted figures -- the Polo should already have been tested to WLTC.. Which will be much worse than NEDC sadly :-/.
[1] http://www.automobilemag.com/news/inside-volkswage...
I've not driven it myself but consensus seems to be that it's less willing higher up in the power band. But gives a good shove further down. Which does not sound ideal for some. But in a more 'grown up' hot hatch it should work -- especially with the mileage you do. I can see this fitting the new Polo GTI very nicely. Literally a very grown up super mini hatch
.Speaking of MPG, even the standard GTI is pretty decent IMO. I currently get around 32 out of a tank on average, but on slow Autobahn (~ 75 mph) stints it creeps close to 40. That's with a Mk 7.5 GTI Performance and 225/40/18 Michelin PSS. Rims also wider and stick out a bit more than stock (ET45 8"). So not optimised for effiency at all.
Edit: regarding quoted figures -- the Polo should already have been tested to WLTC.. Which will be much worse than NEDC sadly :-/.
[1] http://www.automobilemag.com/news/inside-volkswage...
Edited by Kolbenkopp on Thursday 3rd May 00:19
Many thanks for that, appreciated, it makes interesting reading.
Agreed of the articles I've read many have noted that there's little point in revving it beyond 5500rpm, which is a shame as I understood one of the good things about this in the R (& I presume GTI too) was its decent slug of torque but that it is worthwhile chasing the readline too.
Nevertheless as you say for my daily use it really could potentially suit me well. I'm fortunate to have other stuff just for fun. Though the lead times sound err interesting, not sure the lease company will approve, though currently they won't be aware as it only appeared on the list on Monday!
Agreed of the articles I've read many have noted that there's little point in revving it beyond 5500rpm, which is a shame as I understood one of the good things about this in the R (& I presume GTI too) was its decent slug of torque but that it is worthwhile chasing the readline too.
Nevertheless as you say for my daily use it really could potentially suit me well. I'm fortunate to have other stuff just for fun. Though the lead times sound err interesting, not sure the lease company will approve, though currently they won't be aware as it only appeared on the list on Monday!
More technical detail here
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/06/20170627-t...
Polo 5 door DSG 1355Kg
Golf 5 door DSG 1416Kg
Not so much weight terms, however the Miller engine should surprise you with its economy, it has for the A4 people in its higher power variant.
Thanks for all the replies, appreciated. As long as I can get 40 on a run and therefore cover the fuel cost for work that's fine. I tend to sit with adaptive cruise on at circa 75, got an OBC 54 & 56 on the Golf 1.4 ACT today round the M25 for 85 miles, which is unusually high but bizarrely the M25 was fairly quiet.
Interesting re the GTD, I've got 46 on the Golf overall measured old school brim to brim over 72k miles.
A GTD is on the company car list too, but after 4 years back in petrol I don't want to return to diesel, and noting the next 4 years BiK it makes no sense, and I suspect it'll only get worse.
Interesting re the GTD, I've got 46 on the Golf overall measured old school brim to brim over 72k miles.
A GTD is on the company car list too, but after 4 years back in petrol I don't want to return to diesel, and noting the next 4 years BiK it makes no sense, and I suspect it'll only get worse.
My round trip commute is 65 miles, a third of which is on some great rural cross country roads so a requirement for fun even in the daily is high. Plus living in the countryside means I have some fun roads even when doing run of the mill stuff, so as sensible as the GTD would be I couldn't return to diesel, in that respect the last 72k in the Golf ACT has been great, it's a fantastic all rounder but push on and it's quite baggy.
va1o said:
I've got the 230PS version of this engine in my TT. It seems to pretty consistently average about 36mpg from overall driving, rising to mid 40s on motorway runs. Pretty decent for the performance IMO
Broadly the same in a Golf with the same engine, with a good mix of daily crawl and more free moving roads. As always, probably depends on the circumstances and the driver.The pay off seems to be very low down torque (or slightly off gear ratios) and not exactly the best sound out there.
Patch1875 said:
I got around 25-30 on town and 35-40 on a run.
Same. Others who are averaging high 30s are doing are doing little urban driven or must have some magical foot with no weight.
My average is about 28mpg.
On a 4.5 hour journey last night in my GTI pp though, generally in the 3 rd lane, I averaged about 38.5 I think it was. Not too bad at all.
mcg_ said:
Patch1875 said:
I got around 25-30 on town and 35-40 on a run.
Same. Others who are averaging high 30s are doing are doing little urban driven or must have some magical foot with no weight.
My average is about 28mpg.
On a 4.5 hour journey last night in my GTI pp though, generally in the 3 rd lane, I averaged about 38.5 I think it was. Not too bad at all.
I was getting about 28 out of a 5cyl Focus ST, the renowned petroleum dipsomaniac one, which seemed to be quite a bit better than the norm & I never wanted for pace, so something doesn't seem right.
As mentioned, I do a fair amount of boring crawl as the morning journey is 4 miles of very slow moving urban traffic to get to a motorway that is at best ok, but usually far less than that (to the extent that it will all be 'smart'
motorway in a couple of years). I do leave late in the evening in the miserable half of the year, so that does help matters. Outside of the working week could be anything - sometimes there aren't the circumstances to try hard, sometimes there are & sometimes I CBA and sometimes I very much want to.One thing I would say is that something like IAM/RoSPA definitely does help. I did the former a long time ago and you definitely benefit. Better anticipation, lift off earlier, accelerate smartly etc. I'm no driving hero or anything close to, nor am I the opposite!
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