Audi Suspension Top Nut Tool?

Audi Suspension Top Nut Tool?

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aprisa

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Every time I have hassles with a job, I make a point of getting the correct tool for the job for "next time".

In this case I can't find what I need?

The strut nut on an A3 needs a socket to undo it, but you also need to hold the strut centre at the same time (allen key) so meaning you cannot use a socket bar or ratchet on the socket? I used grips on the socket and hence knackered some of the chrome on a very expensive socket.

So for all other Tool Anoraks - What tool would do the job please?

Nick

miniman

25,859 posts

267 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Why does it need a socket? Couldn't you use a ratchet spanner???

dilbert

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236 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Ring spanner

dilbert

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Plain Spanner?

aprisa

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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The nut is recessed and you cannot get a ring spanner down low enough, don't worry, I have draws full of different ring spanners

dilbert

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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In which case you need a box spanner.

aprisa

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Can you get box-spanners without the bar thru the middle then?

Edited because I invented the word Snaners?

>> Edited by aprisa on Thursday 10th March 16:08

miniman

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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How about this:

dilbert

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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I think box spanners are considered expendable.

They're dead cheap and made of soft steel. You'll be able to cut it with a hacksaw, file, and drill it. You can even weld it if you want.

For your tricky situation, get a two bits of studding and some nuts. Poke it through the hole, do the nuts up either side. If you're lucky you'll still have enough space in the middle to get your allen key through.

If you have a welder, cut the tommy bar in half and weld it into the body. You'll probably have to cut the spanner in half anyway, unless you have long series allen keys.

aprisa

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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miniman said:
How about this:



I think on reflection that a deep set ring as shown may work, I have offsets and arcs but no deep-set ones!

Hey-Ho off to the tool shop

Nick

aprisa

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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dilbert said:
I think box spanners are considered expendable.

They're dead cheap and made of soft steel. You'll be able to cut it with a hacksaw, file, and drill it. You can even weld it if you want.

For your tricky situation, get a two bits of studding and some nuts. Poke it through the hole, do the nuts up either side. If you're lucky you'll still have enough space in the middle to get your allen key through.

If you have a welder, cut the tommy bar in half and weld it into the body. You'll probably have to cut the spanner in half anyway, unless you have long series allen keys.


Dilbert
Thanks for the advice, it would work OK but, to me a spanner is to be carressed and looked at as well as used

Nick

zcacogp

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249 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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miniman said:
How about this:

Mr Miniman has got it right. A deep-reach ring spanner (traditionally called a "Swan Neck" Spanner.) Be warned, they are hard to find, and you will probably need to order one from your local tool shop as they won't have one in stock ...

The alternative (as you have found) is a socket of the right size and some mole grips. It doesn't ruin the socket, but can scrape the chrome a little.

It's the same arrangment on all Golfs (up to Mk IV) and many other cars as well.


Oli.


dilbert

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Don't get one as small as 12BA though!

miniman

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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aprisa said:
to me a spanner is to be carressed and looked at as well as used

[Swiss Toni]
Using a spanner is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman. First you rub it down with an oily rag until it's shiny, then get it wrapped firmly round your nuts.
[/Swiss Toni]

miniman

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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zcacogp said:
Mr Miniman has got it right. A deep-reach ring spanner (traditionally called a "Swan Neck" Spanner.) Be warned, they are hard to find, and you will probably need to order one from your local tool shop as they won't have one in stock ...

That one was from www.toolsnstuff.com - best of both worlds - get what you want, business for PHers!

dilbert

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236 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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aprisa said:


dilbert said:
I think box spanners are considered expendable.

They're dead cheap and made of soft steel. You'll be able to cut it with a hacksaw, file, and drill it. You can even weld it if you want.

For your tricky situation, get a two bits of studding and some nuts. Poke it through the hole, do the nuts up either side. If you're lucky you'll still have enough space in the middle to get your allen key through.

If you have a welder, cut the tommy bar in half and weld it into the body. You'll probably have to cut the spanner in half anyway, unless you have long series allen keys.




Dilbert
Thanks for the advice, it would work OK but, to me a spanner is to be carressed and looked at as well as used

Nick



No problem, when you said ring spanner no good, I assumed you meant a deep set one. They are the only ones worth having.

I assumed from what you were saying that your top nut was down in a box/hole.

>> Edited by dilbert on Thursday 10th March 16:25

zcacogp

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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miniman said:
That one was from www.toolsnstuff.com - best of both worlds - get what you want, business for PHers!
Make sure that the reach is deep enough. I have seen many that aren't, and few that are ... (thankfully the one in my cupboard is ...)

This is one advantage of an old fashioned tool shop. You can see and handle the thing before you buy it, and make a good guess as to whether it will do the job or not. You just can't do this on-line ... but that's not to say anything bad about toolsnstuff.

(Awaits smutty jokes about handling things before buying them.)



Oli.

Pickled Piper

6,380 posts

240 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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There is a special tool to do this job. It is essentially a socket with a hole cut in the side to allow you to put in an allen key. It's actually called something like a "strut top socket" IIRC I saw it in a "Snap-on" or "Draper" catalogue. It's the proper tool for the job and allows you to use a torque wrench when you tighten it all up.

Edited to add this link. This is what I mean. http://p-car.com/diy/sus/

pp

>> Edited by Pickled Piper on Thursday 10th March 22:42

anonymous-user

59 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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zcacogp said:

miniman said:
That one was from <a href="http://www.toolsnstuff.com">www.toolsnstuff.com</a> - best of both worlds - get what you want, business for PHers!

Make sure that the reach is deep enough. I have seen many that aren't, and few that are ... (thankfully the one in my cupboard is ...)

This is one advantage of an old fashioned tool shop. You can see and handle the thing before you buy it, and make a good guess as to whether it will do the job or not. You just can't do this on-line ... but that's not to say anything bad about toolsnstuff.

(Awaits smutty jokes about handling things before buying them.)



Oli.
In most cases yes, but with toolsnstuff you can just give Patrick a call and he's always very helpful.

wildeep

362 posts

254 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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You can buy the proper tool from German & Swedish for about a tenner.