DSG box and high mileage
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I'm needing to change my work horse a passat and looking at going for a DSG box in the next one, I normally do around 35k a year and will keep the car for four maybe five years, buying a used car with around 50k on it, I know about the 40k service on the box will it be good for 200k or loads of problems as the miles go on it.
It would be possible to exceed 200K with a DSG, iirc there's a Golf Gti in readers cars with 300k. But to achieve that mileage it will need maintenance and to be driven with sympathy (warming etc).
It will probably need some long term maintenance parts in that mileage too, like a mechatronics, but these is a much like a manual's clutch/dmf replacement that would be likely with those sorts of miles.
It will probably need some long term maintenance parts in that mileage too, like a mechatronics, but these is a much like a manual's clutch/dmf replacement that would be likely with those sorts of miles.
If you keep it serviced to schedule using the approved fluids and parts, there's no reason why it won't do that sort of mileage. And as above, warm it up correctly. That should go without saying on a forum like this though.
As far as I can ascertain, mechatronic failure doesn't appear to be age related, they just seem to fail at random. Good news is that there's an outfit that refurbishes them now with seemingly good results.
The DMF's seem to have sporadic issues with getting noisy, but this doesn't seem to affect their operation or life span. They don't wear per se on the DSG either as the clutches don't work in the same was as manual cars as the clutches are wet and not directly connected to the flywheel. Still, the flywheel is very similar to the one fitted to the manual car and costs a similar amount.
Paul
As far as I can ascertain, mechatronic failure doesn't appear to be age related, they just seem to fail at random. Good news is that there's an outfit that refurbishes them now with seemingly good results.
The DMF's seem to have sporadic issues with getting noisy, but this doesn't seem to affect their operation or life span. They don't wear per se on the DSG either as the clutches don't work in the same was as manual cars as the clutches are wet and not directly connected to the flywheel. Still, the flywheel is very similar to the one fitted to the manual car and costs a similar amount.
Paul
Depends on the model or car and the year I think.
As everyone above says, the gearbox oil and filter change schedule is vital and not easy to determine if it's actually been done. I bought mine at just under 40k and had it done, it's on 71k now so coming up again this year.
Other than that, it's a conventional manual gearbox with automatic clutch and selection control. It's not that special, bearings can wear a little and whine but the main issues seem to be mechatronics crapping out at random and the 7 speed dry clutch models having premature clutch failure.
Mine is a 6 speed wet clutch model which doesn't seem to suffer the same fate.
No reason why the gearbox shouldn't easily cover 200k, clutch wear seems to be a non issues compared to a manual box and the only routine cost is oil and filter every 40k.
As everyone above says, the gearbox oil and filter change schedule is vital and not easy to determine if it's actually been done. I bought mine at just under 40k and had it done, it's on 71k now so coming up again this year.
Other than that, it's a conventional manual gearbox with automatic clutch and selection control. It's not that special, bearings can wear a little and whine but the main issues seem to be mechatronics crapping out at random and the 7 speed dry clutch models having premature clutch failure.
Mine is a 6 speed wet clutch model which doesn't seem to suffer the same fate.
No reason why the gearbox shouldn't easily cover 200k, clutch wear seems to be a non issues compared to a manual box and the only routine cost is oil and filter every 40k.
va1o said:
Unlike a Manual you're unlikely to have any Clutch/ DMF worries.
Very true but then you won't have a mechatronic unit failure in a manual. I must be unlucky, I've had 3 DSG cars (audi, skoda and VW) 2 of these had horrendous issues, 1 was faultless. Luckily the issues were fixed under warranty but the bills were eye-watering.
I would never run one outside the warranty period. I've had 3 manuals since my last DSG and had no clutch or dmf problems.
My A3, 3.2 had done 91k when I sold it, DSG was fine.
The only problem I had with the gears was when the battery was on the way out, straight after starting it sometimes would show random warning lights and once stopped selecting gears but switching off/restarting cured it and a new battery fixed it for good - it did have a bit of an appetite for batteries, not sure if that is a common thing or was just mine?
IMO the DSG is the best of both manual and auto, I wouldn't want a manual again and not keen on conventional autos so I got another DSG (S4).
The only problem I had with the gears was when the battery was on the way out, straight after starting it sometimes would show random warning lights and once stopped selecting gears but switching off/restarting cured it and a new battery fixed it for good - it did have a bit of an appetite for batteries, not sure if that is a common thing or was just mine?
IMO the DSG is the best of both manual and auto, I wouldn't want a manual again and not keen on conventional autos so I got another DSG (S4).
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