I want that Mk1 Golf!

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james24

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522 posts

255 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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Right I'm looking to buy a Mk1 Golf so I've been searching on the net for one. I came across this picture and I think I'm in love with this car!

How much would it cost approximately to get a Mk1 up to this sort of standard?! Because I don't really have a clue about them!

Any feedback much appreciated!

Cheers...James

4WD

2,289 posts

236 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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That is a real looker isn't it. Some people go to extreme lengths getting the mk1's tidy. I've seen one where the underside was polished like a mirror. If you had to pay for the man hours it would cost more than my R32, that's for sure.

mervynp

366 posts

266 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Quite A lot, unfortunately....

I would guess/hope that the ride height is achieved with air ride suspension, which costs a pretty penny. The chrome bumpers, wing mirror and trim are pretty hard to find and commands a fair premium. Are those Porsche alloys as well? In which case, suitable adaptors will be needed along with spacers etc. to accommodate the suspension. The lights/indicators are not too expensive; you can get them from the usual tuners/tat merchants. Given that this is a Belgium car and they are such fans of smoothing, then the chances are it has had all sorts of bits removed, smoothed and repainted from the boot as well, the Aerial has gone already. Not sure if that is a VW paint either.

The Porsche seats and roll cage will set you back a penny or two as well, and then you will need, oh, a 1.8 20vT transplant and a set of decent brakes to lug/stop it all about. I think I have a magazine article with that car in, PM me if interested and I'll see if the wife hasn't chucked it out.

iguana

7,047 posts

265 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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To purely 'look' like that car- not a lot more than £1k or so.

It could be achived with merely a decent spray, a set of cheap porker rims & some very low springs (that car is prob on coilovers tho)


It really tough to say what it can cost at the other end of the scale, depends what you have under the skin & what you want the car to do, but certainly its easy to spend £15+k.

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

237 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Thats an early one. Somewhere around 1974ish going by the bumper.

top fuel

2,590 posts

258 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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iguana said:
To purely 'look' like that car- not a lot more than £1k or so.

It could be achived with merely a decent spray, a set of cheap porker rims & some very low springs (that car is prob on coilovers tho)


And how exactly would you get the early spec bumpers and rear lights, chrome trim arround the windows, roll cage for less than 1k???. That is a very special car indeed.

I have the Article for the Jan 05 issue of Performance VW sat here now.

The Base car is a '78.


PVW Spec. Sheet said:


Engine: 1.8 20vT, Forge diverter valve, uprated front-mounted intercooler, uprated oil cooler, water injection, REVO SPS3 software, stainless exhaust with sports cat, electronic limited-slip diff and traction control from Seat Ibiza, G60 five-speed cable change gearbox

Chassis: 7x16 (front) and 8x16 (rear) Porsche Design 90 alloys with black enamelled centres and polished outer edges, 195/40 R16 Dunlop SP9000 Tyres, H&R wheel adapters, BSS air ride suspension using custom struts and air bags, Powerflex poly bushes, Seat Ibiza brakes with functioning ABS, braided hoses

Outside: Full repspray in Reflex silver, crystal headlights, Porsche door handles, passenger wing mirror removed, smoked rear clusters, de-badged and smoothed boot

Inside: Mk1 Golf cabri dash with UK Seat Ibiza dials, Seat Ibiza diagnostic port, motorsport-style shifter, FIA approved six-point roll-cage, Recaro Sportline seats in black and grey suede with Schroth Harnesses


I have the full article if you would like it scanned

dtmpower

3,972 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Could you email me the scans of the Mk1 Golf article please

John

james24

Original Poster:

522 posts

255 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Thanks for all the replies!

I'd love to see the full article, thanks alot.

edc

9,293 posts

256 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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top fuel said:

iguana said:
To purely 'look' like that car- not a lot more than £1k or so.

It could be achived with merely a decent spray, a set of cheap porker rims & some very low springs (that car is prob on coilovers tho)



And how exactly would you get the early spec bumpers and rear lights, chrome trim arround the windows, roll cage for less than 1k???. That is a very special car indeed.



I reckon you could buy the bits in for 1k or less, after all my 6-point cage cost £50, leaves a big budget for the rest. You can buy chrome trim on a roll or fabricate some.

top fuel

2,590 posts

258 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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No, by what I said I mean you'd need to start of with an Early Mk1 Golf. The VW moddifying boys have allready picked up on the fact they are few and far between, so they fetch top dollar now. to "covert" a late model to early spec would cost tonnes.

edc

9,293 posts

256 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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That's not to say it can't be done

Design 90s can be bought for £60 or less a set.

Of course you need a car to start with, and the first post didn't state what the base was.

AnarchyStorm

943 posts

261 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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I still have my nice Mk1 Golf. The bodywork is in perfect condition and Im now forced to sell her because the other half wants a newer more comfortable car

I love Mk1's, they have so much spirit and character about them.

The 2.0 16v is a nice conversion too... I wonder how much I could get for her?

james24

Original Poster:

522 posts

255 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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AnarchyStorm thats a nice clean looking car in your profile! Let me know when you have a price, I may be interested

manners

74 posts

241 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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I've spoken to the owner of this mk1 it's a real lovely example. It was at last years inter show.

It's a late spec mk1 not a very early swallow tail with chrome bumpers. Getting the bits can add up.

Bumpers 200 - 400
Wheels 200 - 400 excluding painting.
tyres typically very low profile 195/40/16 - 260
Hub adapters - 200
Air suspension - 600 excluding fitting
This car has a 150 bhp 1.8t installed which will be at least 1k if fitted yourself.
VW motorsport gearbox linkage 500
Custom rollcage - 400+

Even the chrome strips, grill, mirrors and handles are becoming rare and collectable.

I've heard of top notch paint jobs costing as much as 10k.

top fuel

2,590 posts

258 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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james24 said:
Thanks for all the replies!

I'd love to see the full article, thanks alot.


Mailed. both of you.

Paul

4WD

2,289 posts

236 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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10k for a respray? Thats ridiculous. 4k max is plenty. My old man had a superb job done on his old xjs for this amout. It now looks like a new car and you'd not get a finer job done. The only way to pay more is if the garage rips you off, or you get some tacky max power / tvr flip paint.

edc

9,293 posts

256 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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manners said:
I've spoken to the owner of this mk1 it's a real lovely example. It was at last years inter show.

It's a late spec mk1 not a very early swallow tail with chrome bumpers. Getting the bits can add up.

Bumpers 200 - 400
Wheels 200 - 400 excluding painting.
tyres typically very low profile 195/40/16 - 260
Hub adapters - 200
Air suspension - 600 excluding fitting
This car has a 150 bhp 1.8t installed which will be at least 1k if fitted yourself.
VW motorsport gearbox linkage 500
Custom rollcage - 400+

Even the chrome strips, grill, mirrors and handles are becoming rare and collectable.

I've heard of top notch paint jobs costing as much as 10k.



You can get complete 1.8Ts at half the price you say

No doubt tho if you want it to be a show car then and money is no object then you can go crazy.

manners

74 posts

241 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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4WD said:
10k for a respray? Thats ridiculous. 4k max is plenty. My old man had a superb job done on his old xjs for this amout. It now looks like a new car and you'd not get a finer job done. The only way to pay more is if the garage rips you off, or you get some tacky max power / tvr flip paint.


I agree, for me 3k is the limit and I’ve got a mk2 project on the go. The trouble is it's not a simple colour change these cars are being built with smooth engine bays (batteries relocated to boot, inner wings smoothed, scuttle panel removed), painted inside, extended metal arches and painted floorpan. Your really do need a skilled welder and painter.

Arc Engines tend to typically go for this sort of price, however you'll need to ditch the standard ecu in most cases as they are very difficult to implement. Dta and emarald are fairly common mapable units but come is at around 600. You also need a gearbox and brake upgrade.