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dickkark

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747 posts

228 months

Saturday 14th October 2006
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just literally finished (7.30 tonight), a XKR rebuild over the last three days,
bought it non runner with usual cam chain tensioner failure,
total cost of parts to me was a tad under £900,valves,chains,tensioners and guides,rings gaskets and bearings all genuine parts from dovercourt ford,

I know that the labour is costly but some people have been quoting 6-8k for this sort of job,
Where do they get the prices from?confused
The engine actually only takes three hours to remove!
Did a bit to the ports while it was apart,first R version i`ve Driven,quite impressed.

If anyone has had this work done at this sort of cost,6-8k, please enlighten me to how this is broken down,price wise.
sorry forgot the title!

Edited by dickkark on Saturday 14th October 20:05

a8hex

5,830 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th October 2006
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Can't help, but it would be interesting to know how much less the car was as a non runner, facing a quoted 6K repair bill?

dickkark

Original Poster:

747 posts

228 months

Saturday 14th October 2006
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I gave 5k for it through the trade,98/R.108,000 miles,been bugged by the seller a few times recently but kept turning it down,didn`t really fancy it,
no one had even bid him on it either.
It was wedged firmly!he lost 7k.eek
Needs the bumpers painted, other then that its spot on.came with some flip out sat nav dvd player thing in the radio slot looks like its worth £6-700 alone!
It started at 12K as a runner,then it went tits up and was at 8k,I finally caved when it reached 5k,was looking to just throw in another engine but couldn`t actually find any let alone a decent one.(except for one clown who rung via find-a-part service)bandit
so I stripped it last saturday,the pistons have valve cut-outs now,
ordered the parts on monday and they turned up in dribs and drabs through the week. and I started again on it on thursday afternoon.


Just been looking through the service history,looks like this engine has had this job done before at 65,000.sloppy repair also,used old chains,bolts loose & missing etc.
The previous repair came to £4,800.with 25% paid by Jaguar.

Going to keep it as it owes me bugger all,I need a sensible everyday car aswell. I was thinking that it would in a few years make a good donor for something I`ve have in mind for a few years.

Phil Hopkins

17,111 posts

224 months

Sunday 15th October 2006
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Sounds like you've got a seriousley cheap XKR there. Keep it

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

258 months

Sunday 15th October 2006
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What was actually wrong with the engine? Guides, chains & presumably you decided to renew the bearings while you were in the engine.

I'm amazed you say you got the engine out in 3 hours, I have removed my XJ8 engine and it took noticeably longer, though I was being very careful and dropping it and the trans out from below. What shortcuts did you take?

dickkark

Original Poster:

747 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th October 2006
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took it out complete, apart from alternator and pas pump,only problem was one stud snapped in o/s downpipe taking it out.
the damage was not as bad as it could have been,it seems that the valves in these engines do actually flex on the stem rather than snapping or bending straight away,as I stated all the valves were bent/had contacted the piston crowns.
deep combustion chamber helps also.
the offside aux chain had snapped because the seal in the tensioner had rotted and collapsed,this looks like it caught the main chain and so on.....
did the shells and brgs as it`s out of the car anyway,and for what it cost it`s mad not to,if doing this as a customers job I would recommend it anyway.
I found there to be oodles of room around the engine except the starter area,much more room than most other engine bays (I do this stuff for a living)as this engine is quite compact really.
the gasket kit for this engine is a joke,every single seal, o ring and rubber is in a seperate bag,what a waste and a feckin nightmare,bags everywhere.

p.s. a8hex: nice XK150smokin and a reformed dolomite sprint owner aswell!

Edited by dickkark on Sunday 15th October 09:35

a8hex

5,830 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th October 2006
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dickkark said:


p.s. a8hex: nice XK150smokin and a reformed dolomite sprint owner aswell!



bow
although I'm not sure you're ever truely reformed from being a sprint owner

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Sunday 15th October 2006
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£6-£8k is surely for a replacement engine. Mine was £8.5k all in for an 'as new' recon engine straight from the factory.

I can't believe people pay a similar amount to repair their existing engine.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

258 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Odd, the Dolly Sprint referenceas I and the guy that helped me have owned Sprints.

a8hex

5,830 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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GavinPearson said:
Odd, the Dolly Sprint referenceas I and the guy that helped me have owned Sprints.


That's a couple of interesting sounding dollies in your profile.

I once went to a Sprint owners club meeting. One guy there worked build F1 engines for Hart. He'd dyno'd his sprint at 220BHP at the rear wheels, interesting motor. He'd built a fully balanced exhaust manifold for it and since there is almost NO space between the head and the inside wing, the exhaust from the front cylinder had to come up and over the head. Changing the number 1 plug required removing the exhaust manifold :-)

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

258 months

Wednesday 18th October 2006
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The tubular manifold is horribly complicated, though it does work.

Back when I was a student I acquired a tubular manifold, went to Triumphtune and spoke to Terry Hurrell about getting it remade. He thought I was giving him a load of bull until I turned up with the manifold and let him copy it. That's how it ended up in their catalogue, although it was very expensive.

As good as the Sprint engine you only have to look at what Saab did to the engine to see what could have been, sadly that was never the case....