xjr's and stuff...

xjr's and stuff...

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silverback mike

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11,290 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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Doing some theory work here.....might take a couple of months until the court case sorts itself out (clocked BMW - long story) but thinking replacements. The dealer was going to be replacing it with a merc c280 but I've grown tired of promises....

(It's another silverback what if thread, so please switch off if not interested )

So.... a 5k Jag preferably an XJR, feasable? I would rather go for an older more pampered 6cylinder rather than ropey V8. I've previously owned an XJ8 Sport, impressed overall but not with the lack of bootspace - not an issue now as the mini silverbacks are out of pushchair / carrying bootloads of contingency stuff.

Other than usual old car things to look for, do they have any achilles heels, I know the V8S get some nicasil problems, but am not aware of the supercharged 6's being problematic.

I'm currently 'Mike two sheds' as my dailies are a £250 astra and a £350 Merc 190 as I'm not driving the bmw in case something falls off so would anticipate a few months of bangerdom, which will give me some decent time to look for a replacement for BMW.

My other choices are
S type
Merc E class, or S class
(Not bmw for once, I need a rest nuts)

Thanks folks, constructive personal criticism about my car woes please

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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Smart move, go for it!

The 6 cylinder cars are practically bomb-proof. I haven't heard of any common faults ont hese cars at all. Be warned though, I originally intended to get a straight 6, then drove a cheap V8 and through all the knockign and banging was lured into buying one (not the knocking and banging one ofcourse).

Stick to your budget and get a performance bargain.

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DrDeAtH

3,618 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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Go with the straight 6. not really any major probs to find on the car, although they can be a bit heavy on suspension bushes. also the exhaust manifolds do crack.. a minor weak point, but are pricey to replace, unless you can get them welded. had mine for over a year now and still grin when i flick it into sport and drop the hammer.... there are many out there, just spend the time finding the right one for you. then get it into an indy for a good going over as soon as it is bought...

schueymcfee

1,574 posts

272 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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If you got the straight 6 do you think you'd always be hankering after the V8?

The cabin is where you spend all of your time when driving and the cabin in the V8 (as you'll know) is worlds apart.

I'd go for a V8 with a replaced engine and timing chains - but then again I don't have a family etc to think about.

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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Thanks for the replies folks.
Shuey - indeed the V8 interior is a nice place to be, but strangely I think I like the S6 noise in a saloon, I'm a bit odd in liking the rather garish turquoisey colour as well....I'll get my backside (and family) in one I think prior to jumping for it as usual..thanks for the input folks.

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a8hex

5,830 posts

230 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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schueymcfee said:


The cabin is where you spend all of your time when driving and the cabin in the V8 (as you'll know) is worlds apart.




The X300 cabin isn't exactly slumming it.

I thought the ride was supposed to be better in the X308 XJR, I seem to remember the reviews a the time commented it was less harsh than the previous (X300) version.

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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schueymcfee said:
If you got the straight 6 do you think you'd always be hankering after the V8?

The cabin is where you spend all of your time when driving and the cabin in the V8 (as you'll know) is worlds apart.

I'd go for a V8 with a replaced engine and timing chains - but then again I don't have a family etc to think about.


Yes the V8 interior is more modern, but it's also crudely put together compared to the XJ40/X300 interior. I actally prefer the older model interior for that very reason - if you push the wood panels they don't bend!

DrDeAtH

3,618 posts

239 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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groomi said:

Yes the V8 interior is more modern, but it's also crudely put together compared to the XJ40/X300 interior. I actally prefer the older model interior for that very reason - if you push the wood panels they don't bend!


thats because they are made with real wood from trees....

groomi

9,323 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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DrDeAtH said:
groomi said:

Yes the V8 interior is more modern, but it's also crudely put together compared to the XJ40/X300 interior. I actally prefer the older model interior for that very reason - if you push the wood panels they don't bend!


thats because they are made with real wood from trees....


yes

Phil Hopkins

17,111 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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groomi said:
DrDeAtH said:
groomi said:

Yes the V8 interior is more modern, but it's also crudely put together compared to the XJ40/X300 interior. I actally prefer the older model interior for that very reason - if you push the wood panels they don't bend!


thats because they are made with real wood from trees....


yes


laugh

Scrooloose

885 posts

223 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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silverback mike said:
Doing some theory work here.....might take a couple of months until the court case sorts itself out (clocked BMW - long story) but thinking replacements. The dealer was going to be replacing it with a merc c280 but I've grown tired of promises....

(It's another silverback what if thread, so please switch off if not interested )

So.... a 5k Jag preferably an XJR, feasable? I would rather go for an older more pampered 6cylinder rather than ropey V8. I've previously owned an XJ8 Sport, impressed overall but not with the lack of bootspace - not an issue now as the mini silverbacks are out of pushchair / carrying bootloads of contingency stuff.

Other than usual old car things to look for, do they have any achilles heels, I know the V8S get some nicasil problems, but am not aware of the supercharged 6's being problematic.

I'm currently 'Mike two sheds' as my dailies are a £250 astra and a £350 Merc 190 as I'm not driving the bmw in case something falls off so would anticipate a few months of bangerdom, which will give me some decent time to look for a replacement for BMW.

My other choices are
S type
Merc E class, or S class
(Not bmw for once, I need a rest nuts)

Thanks folks, constructive personal criticism about my car woes please


I recently partexchanged my XJR for a Cerbera. Still miss things about the XKR though!!

It was a straight six. Never had any problems with it until the day before selling, when the supercharger drive belt snapped and wrapped itself around all the pulleys on the front of the engine, immobilising the car.

Other than that, watch out for rust around the rear arches. Exhaust and bumper brackets tend to rust through.....

You should be able to pick up a relatively cheap 95/96 model. Circa £5k (which is what i sold mine for after spending £800 sorting it completely)

Have words with Jaguar dealers as well. My local lot told me that the X300s were becoming quite common as trade-ins, resulting in the value dropping. Especially the XJR as it's one of those models that you either want or don't. They offered to pay me £1200 to take mine off my hands. I told them where to stick that particular offer.

Bottom line - you will never find more car for £5k. Do it!!

Phil Hopkins

17,111 posts

224 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Scrooloose said:
Never had any problems with it until the day before selling, when the supercharger drive belt snapped and wrapped itself around all the pulleys on the front of the engine, immobilising the car.



Bloody hell that's unlucky!

Scrooloose

885 posts

223 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Phil Hopkins said:
Scrooloose said:
Never had any problems with it until the day before selling, when the supercharger drive belt snapped and wrapped itself around all the pulleys on the front of the engine, immobilising the car.



Bloody hell that's unlucky!


That's exactly what I thought to myself, as I sat motionless in a rapidly growing queue of traffic at rush hour on one of the main routes in and out of Poole.

To add insult to injury, I'd just picked it up from the garage who had done the MOT.

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

260 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Scrooloose said:
silverback mike said:
Doing some theory work here.....might take a couple of months until the court case sorts itself out (clocked BMW - long story) but thinking replacements. The dealer was going to be replacing it with a merc c280 but I've grown tired of promises....

(It's another silverback what if thread, so please switch off if not interested )

So.... a 5k Jag preferably an XJR, feasable? I would rather go for an older more pampered 6cylinder rather than ropey V8. I've previously owned an XJ8 Sport, impressed overall but not with the lack of bootspace - not an issue now as the mini silverbacks are out of pushchair / carrying bootloads of contingency stuff.

Other than usual old car things to look for, do they have any achilles heels, I know the V8S get some nicasil problems, but am not aware of the supercharged 6's being problematic.

I'm currently 'Mike two sheds' as my dailies are a £250 astra and a £350 Merc 190 as I'm not driving the bmw in case something falls off so would anticipate a few months of bangerdom, which will give me some decent time to look for a replacement for BMW.

My other choices are
S type
Merc E class, or S class
(Not bmw for once, I need a rest nuts)

Thanks folks, constructive personal criticism about my car woes please


I recently partexchanged my XJR for a Cerbera. Still miss things about the XKR though!!

It was a straight six. Never had any problems with it until the day before selling, when the supercharger drive belt snapped and wrapped itself around all the pulleys on the front of the engine, immobilising the car.

Other than that, watch out for rust around the rear arches. Exhaust and bumper brackets tend to rust through.....

You should be able to pick up a relatively cheap 95/96 model. Circa £5k (which is what i sold mine for after spending £800 sorting it completely)

Have words with Jaguar dealers as well. My local lot told me that the X300s were becoming quite common as trade-ins, resulting in the value dropping. Especially the XJR as it's one of those models that you either want or don't. They offered to pay me £1200 to take mine off my hands. I told them where to stick that particular offer.

Bottom line - you will never find more car for £5k. Do it!!


Probably a bit of a daft question, running costs....scratchchin comparing with my BMW 535i (V8) - similar, what do you think?

DrDeAtH

3,618 posts

239 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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they like petrol.... lots mine averages about 14mpg round town
servicing, look to about £500/600 a year
tyres, about £650 a set
other than that just drive the wheels off it and enjoy...

Scrooloose

885 posts

223 months

Sunday 10th September 2006
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DrDeAtH said:
they like petrol.... lots mine averages about 14mpg round town
servicing, look to about £500/600 a year
tyres, about £650 a set
other than that just drive the wheels off it and enjoy...


I'd say that this was about right. Although you can find Pirellis fitted for about £130 a corner......

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

260 months

Sunday 10th September 2006
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Looks like this court thing may drag on a bit......may be a few months yet. banghead