How not to drive a Jaguar (Video of S Type R crash)

How not to drive a Jaguar (Video of S Type R crash)

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V12AML

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209 posts

226 months

xjsjohn

16,034 posts

226 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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ooooops

LSPC

80 posts

235 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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That might not polish out!!

sjc

14,302 posts

277 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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Think you'll find it had an Autocar journalist in the passenger seat!

robocop

489 posts

244 months

Friday 24th March 2006
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...and that's why Pizzonia didn't ever make an impression in F1 !

Can't even drive a saloon car round a race track!

triple7

4,015 posts

244 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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What a fool, he just didn't care. Or was it that he just can't drive!

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xkrman

144 posts

236 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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Remember reading about this when it happened.

He was showing the Autocar guy how to do it and apparently chose his braking point as he would have done in his F1 car - oops!

Shows how tough those S-Types are though.

jagman

129 posts

245 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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Guess that was Steve Sutcliffe from Autocar in the hot seat.
Good man to have a crash with, I'd say.
First thing he did after things settled was to check Pizzonia was OK !
After that display, Steve would have been justified in letting him sort himself out !!

tombaron

783 posts

246 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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Lucky that it was the rear of the car that took the impact, especially as they weren't wearing helmets, because it didn't stand up to it all too well!

Why the criticism of the driver. He made a human error of thinking he was doing a similar task task to the one he actually was doing. (Thought he was in an F1 car). People do it all the time, I know I do it in the air, now that I've started powered flying on top of the gliding that I'm used to.

GreenV8S

30,464 posts

291 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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tombaron said:
He made a human error of thinking he was doing a similar task task to the one he actually was doing.


If he can't tell the difference between being strapped into an F1 car and wallowing around in a saloon car on road tyres, then heaven help us when he's driving on public roads. What on earth could he have been thinking?

trackcar

6,453 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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Interestingly Sutcliffe realised what was happening way before it happened, had his hand bracing against the roof .. he knew it was going over didn't he? Bloody gravel traps .. big hard run-off is what you need .. or just don;t go in the gravel

Didn't Sutcliffe race Tuscans at one point in an Autocar-sponsored car?

agent006

12,058 posts

271 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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trackcar said:
Bloody gravel traps .. big hard run-off is what you need .. or just don;t go in the gravel


Just don't try and turn when you do go in. Otherwise it'll dig in and roll like that did.

tombaron

783 posts

246 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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GreenV8S said:
tombaron said:
He made a human error of thinking he was doing a similar task task to the one he actually was doing.


If he can't tell the difference between being strapped into an F1 car and wallowing around in a saloon car on road tyres, then heaven help us when he's driving on public roads. What on earth could he have been thinking?


Not conciously!! Just a lapse in concentration!

GreenV8S

30,464 posts

291 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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tombaron said:
GreenV8S said:
tombaron said:
He made a human error of thinking he was doing a similar task task to the one he actually was doing.


If he can't tell the difference between being strapped into an F1 car and wallowing around in a saloon car on road tyres, then heaven help us when he's driving on public roads. What on earth could he have been thinking?


Not conciously!! Just a lapse in concentration!


That's what I mean! If your mental 'autopilot' assumes you have F1 levels of grip then you're likely to smack into the scenery at the first bend. No, it looks to me as if he totally misjudged the bend and wasn't thinking clearly before, during or after the accident. If he'd thought about it I'm sure he would have preferred to go into the gravel trap pointing forwards. He had plenty of time to do that but instead he put the car in sideways which has got to be just about the worst way to hit a gravel trap. He's a professional driver paid for his car control skills, fast reflexes and clear thinking under pressure. Zero out of three so far ...

a8hex

5,830 posts

230 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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trackcar said:
Interestingly Sutcliffe realised what was happening way before it happened, had his hand bracing against the roof .. he knew it was going over didn't he?


I just loved the cool

"No way... we're off"

comment.


You can read a whole lot more about it at http://forums.atlasf1.com/showthread.

Cheers