Do you agree that Aston is more "British" than Jaguar?

[cerbman]

I don't.

[LSPC]

ME NEITHER

[cerbman]

Good for you. I've been over on the AM forum arguing this point, but they're having none of it. You see AM themselves claim to be all things British and more so than others such as Jaguar. I don't agree and my goodness the AM lads got upset
BTW S-type R :cool

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>> Edited by cerbman on Thursday 16th February 13:38

[Prof Beard]

Heritage-wise, they are both thoroughly British. In truth terms aren't they both Fords?

[800]

and I think the AM guys will find that their engines are made in Germany

[Marki]

800 said:

and I think the AM guys will find that their engines are made in Germany

To a very high standard





so what

[cerbman]

Mercedes drivers will tell you that being made in Germany isn't quite the same as it used to be.

[800]

Marki said:

800 said: and I think the AM guys will find that their engines are made in Germany To a very high standard so what

Nothing at all, the (jovial) question was: 'which is more British?'

I do think its a shame though that Aston can't find similarly skilled engine builders in the UK.....

[Marki]

800 said:

Marki said: 800 said: and I think the AM guys will find that their engines are made in Germany To a very high standard so what Nothing at all, the (jovial) question was: 'which is more British?' I do think its a shame though that Aston can't find similarly skilled engine builders in the UK.....

I think they can its just a symptom of the "BIG CAR COMPANY" they have this nice spanky new plant that they have built in Germany and they want to use their prestige plant to build prestige engines

[cerbman]

A snippet from a letter to me from AM and a little fact..

". Our engines are not German. The V8 and V12 units that are manufactured in Cologne are a British design, built by British people in a separate dedicated Aston Martin factory."

Also I dare not let them in on one little fact that would upset them. It concerns their DB5 and the fact it was 2nd choice for the Bond films, guise what was 1st choice?

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>> Edited by cerbman on Thursday 16th February 09:50

[triple7]

cerbman said:

A snippet from a letter to me from AM and a little fact.. ". Our engines are not German. The V8 and V12 units that are manufactured in Cologne are a British design, built by British people in a separate dedicated Aston Martin factory." Also I dare not let them in on one little fact that would upset them. It concerns their DB5 and the fact it was 2nd choice for the Bond films, guise what was 1st choice? >> Edited by cerbman on Thursday 16th February 09:49 >> Edited by cerbman on Thursday 16th February 09:50

What a load of tosh. So it is cheaper for AM to build a factory in Germany and make British engines in Germany, while paying a load of British employees to live there, than it is to do it in the UK. It has to be a German engine, if it is built in Germany by Germans. So what, every car made today has a hotchpotch of components from all around the world.

So what was Bonds first choice, not another Bimmer!

G

PS Jag is more British, you see more of them on the road. AM is just niche and doesn't have the same impact.

[Marki]

triple7 said:

So what was Bonds first choice, not another Bimmer!

I think it was a Bently originaly , or was that from the book

[cerbman]

They wanted to use the E-type for Bond, but Jaguar said no

[J1mmyD]

Come on, guys!!!!!!!!

'Heritage-wise' ... it's ENGLISH!

[richb]

cerbman said:

I've been over on the AM site arguing this point

And you said you weren't looking for an argument

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=243839

cerbman said:

richb said: cerbman said: is this OK? How is this such a British car - as they claim - when it's onwned by the Americans, run by a German and now the engines are German made? I assume you're bored and wanted to wind someone up Robin? No, just trying to make a point.

p.s. It's not "the Aston Site", Pistonheads is all one big club, it's just that you have tried to start the same argument here on the Jaguar forum to see if anyone else will bite - or lend a sympathetic ear! R...

[cerbman]

I wasn't looking for an argument, but by golly I got one. I put the wrong word, I meant forum, very sorry

>> Edited by cerbman on Thursday 16th February 13:44

[richb]

What? You used the word 'arguing' and meant 'forum'? No wonder I'm confused

[cerbman]

You don't have to look for an argument to get one. It seems very easy to confuse you.

>> Edited by cerbman on Thursday 16th February 14:00

[richb]

Not at all - in fact I agree with some of your points but that's neither here nor there. I simply thought your original post was somewhat blunt and when people disagreed your opinion you didn't like it. A bit like me saying "all Jags since the E-Type have been bought by Arthur Dailey types with porkie-pie hats and sheepskin coats". Then getting righteous when people disagree. Rich...

[cerbman]

I don't mind people disagreeing at all, but there was 1 or 2 personal insults coming my way for disagreeing with them, that's not on.