2.7 tdvi engine - a borkage waiting to happen?
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I don't think they have a reputation for that, I think that was more the 3.0 TDV6 but specifically it was more common in the Discovery. The 2.7 was more prone to lack of maintenance, as the engine has drivebelts at both the front and back of the engine (auxiliary at the front and I think oil pump or fuel at the back?), and quite often they wouldn't get changed.
I spend a lot of time around these as a mate of mine works on them.
Some neglected Disco3’s appear to waddle on forever.
Some pampered & adored XF Jags go pop at 45-65k.
Is it a casting defect?
Is it improper torquing of crank pulleys or bearings?
Is it oil dilution?
When they work they are fabulous.
The cars that they are fitted in are criminally underrated.
Buy it, change the oil at 6k miles.
Watch LandRoverTime on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/YGvQAbM_YQY?si=dL9sZsTjUqafPqsI
Especially this oil video.
If the worst happens it can be fixed.
Some neglected Disco3’s appear to waddle on forever.
Some pampered & adored XF Jags go pop at 45-65k.
Is it a casting defect?
Is it improper torquing of crank pulleys or bearings?
Is it oil dilution?
When they work they are fabulous.
The cars that they are fitted in are criminally underrated.
Buy it, change the oil at 6k miles.
Watch LandRoverTime on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/YGvQAbM_YQY?si=dL9sZsTjUqafPqsI
Especially this oil video.
If the worst happens it can be fixed.
TheAngryDog said:
I really, really, really fancy an X358 XJ, but in diesel flavour.
I know that the 2.7 td engine has a reputation, but is it guaranteed to snap the crank or will a looked after one that is still running today generally be ok, if continued to be looked after?
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Thanks.
I had a 2.7D S-Type. It was on about 130K miles when I sold it and it was a great engine, no problems at all. I loved the power delivery, especially when you hit cruise resume!I know that the 2.7 td engine has a reputation, but is it guaranteed to snap the crank or will a looked after one that is still running today generally be ok, if continued to be looked after?
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Thanks.
I even put unleaded in it once by mistake - it wasn't very happy but made a full recovery.
TheAngryDog said:
I really, really, really fancy an X358 XJ, but in diesel flavour.
I know that the 2.7 td engine has a reputation, but is it guaranteed to snap the crank or will a looked after one that is still running today generally be ok, if continued to be looked after?
Thanks.
Well you will certainly have plenty to choose from and as in all things my advice is to buy the best you can afford . I often have a look on the Autotrader especially at the earlier X350 and high mileages are far from uncommon . Regular Oil and Filter changes as someone said earlier is of major benefit when it comes to any diesel engined vehicle , I run several Mercedes Commercials and I change religiously every 5000 miles and 350,000 miles is easily achievable . I would take my time and look for a good one because as values of these Jaguar decline so too does proper maintenance . Can I ask why the Diesel Jaguar ?I know that the 2.7 td engine has a reputation, but is it guaranteed to snap the crank or will a looked after one that is still running today generally be ok, if continued to be looked after?
Thanks.
danmarr14 said:
Stick Legs said:
The 3.0 Diesels are more reliable than the 2.7s in these aren't they?That looks good that car!
It’s had it’s bottom end done.
Nice car, pulls well. If it was mine I’d get the alloys refurbished & some good tyres on it but it’s great value.
Stick Legs said:
danmarr14 said:
Stick Legs said:
The 3.0 Diesels are more reliable than the 2.7s in these aren't they?That looks good that car!
It’s had it’s bottom end done.
Nice car, pulls well. If it was mine I’d get the alloys refurbished & some good tyres on it but it’s great value.
Yeah I can see it would be a good idea to do those but circa £1500 job?
I had major issues with my X350 2.7, restricted performance on full throttle loads. It had shed loads of warranty work, DPF, EGR valves, injectors, turbo's, bushes, compressor, etc etc. most of the engine problems was then attributed to crimped cables which were changed and the car ran fine, until a drive back from Manchester, stopped to collected my boy from nursery, restarted and the bottom end started knocking. In the end the finance company coughed up and paid back the full cost of the car plus buggeration factor, but it was a hurtful fight and a long one at that, it tainted my respect for modern Jags and bought 3 new Audi's since then, no issues, not stoppages. I did post a topic about it and got slated by most piston headers, simply saying I should've purchased extended warranty fact is the 2.7 was a duffer from the drawing board.
Edited by V12 Migaloo on Monday 13th May 10:06
Edited by V12 Migaloo on Monday 13th May 10:07
TheAngryDog said:
Sure - They're affordable. I'd love a V8 / XJR, but they're out of range, whereas the TDVi's seem to be worth 30p.
On a run to Milan, Italy, when mine worked, I made it near enough to Chamonix without having to refill, and that was from Surrey, nearly 700 miles, all on cruise at 80 mph... a really delightful car when she ran well. In hind site, I should've bought the 3.0 V6 Petrol, I would be stopping a hundred or so miles earlier, but I believe I would still own that car.Edited by V12 Migaloo on Thursday 16th May 10:19
TheAngryDog said:
reddiesel said:
Can I ask why the Diesel Jaguar ?
Sure - They're affordable. I'd love a V8 / XJR, but they're out of range, whereas the TDVi's seem to be worth 30p.P700DEE said:
TheAngryDog said:
reddiesel said:
Can I ask why the Diesel Jaguar ?
Sure - They're affordable. I'd love a V8 / XJR, but they're out of range, whereas the TDVi's seem to be worth 30p.I can only report as I'd found...took my old man's 2.7 XJ from 80k to 104k with no engine issues despite what you can read. May well have just been lucky but the typical use was very few short trips, a 30 minute commute every day and a 100 mile round trip most weekends in the golf season.
It had been well serviced which no doubt will have helped compared to some.
I'd still choose a petrol though given the sheer potential for things to go wrong with the diesel that aren't even there in the first place with the petrols- no way you'd consider the X350?
What I will say is careful on the price no matter what you go for. These sit around for ages at fantasy pricing. FWIW I sold it for £3k in the end but it sat about for almost 6 months with almost no interest and I was advertising at the cheaper end of the autotrader ads for comparable cars.
It had been well serviced which no doubt will have helped compared to some.
I'd still choose a petrol though given the sheer potential for things to go wrong with the diesel that aren't even there in the first place with the petrols- no way you'd consider the X350?
What I will say is careful on the price no matter what you go for. These sit around for ages at fantasy pricing. FWIW I sold it for £3k in the end but it sat about for almost 6 months with almost no interest and I was advertising at the cheaper end of the autotrader ads for comparable cars.
I had the S-type 2.7D XS from new and it was a joy, the engine has super torque and it is effortless. Not a moment's trouble. It is an excellent choice of car.
I do see on Youtube problems in Land Rovers with the oil pump being under sized and fractured cranks.
My choice would be a 4.0 litre petrol V8 with the updated cam chain followers. Yes, it will use more petrol but it will be cheap because of this. Spend your money on petrol and enjoy the experience.
If you buy a Jaguar always make sure it has been serviced regularly and by that I mean, SERVICED. Oil changes are fine but every other change should be done by someone who knows the cars and fixes all the other stuff. Specialist Jag garages abound, they have owners with deep pockets who want proper work on their Jags.
I have had a V12 6.0 XJRS since 2004, they are excellent cars,
I do see on Youtube problems in Land Rovers with the oil pump being under sized and fractured cranks.
My choice would be a 4.0 litre petrol V8 with the updated cam chain followers. Yes, it will use more petrol but it will be cheap because of this. Spend your money on petrol and enjoy the experience.
If you buy a Jaguar always make sure it has been serviced regularly and by that I mean, SERVICED. Oil changes are fine but every other change should be done by someone who knows the cars and fixes all the other stuff. Specialist Jag garages abound, they have owners with deep pockets who want proper work on their Jags.
I have had a V12 6.0 XJRS since 2004, they are excellent cars,
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