Dead XFS, What to do Next?
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Hi all,
My 2012 XFS has unfortunately given up the ghost, suspected snapped crank by an experienced mechanic.
Is there a forum member that likes to take these to the great scrapyard in the sky?
Is there a recommended route to take to get rid of a non-runner other than eBay?
Any clues on how to value it?
Last year in Cheddar Gorge
My 2012 XFS has unfortunately given up the ghost, suspected snapped crank by an experienced mechanic.
Is there a forum member that likes to take these to the great scrapyard in the sky?
Is there a recommended route to take to get rid of a non-runner other than eBay?
Any clues on how to value it?
Last year in Cheddar Gorge
Castrol for a knave said:
Simpo is right - the wheels and interior will be very saleable, better still if it is a Portfolio and comes with Meridian/ B&W.
And doors, lights and everything else.If you have some space to keep it, you could advertise the whole car on eBay for parts, with just a cheap bit listed for £10.
It will take an age to shift all that tat in my humble opinion not to mention the stripping aspect . Do you have the time the tools or the premises not to mention the knowledge ? Of course not and who does ? Its one of those great ideas advanced by those who have never did it .
If it were me the car would have been towed to a quiet spot somewhere and promptly incinerated . After all , its only this sort of circumstance where Insurance Policies have any value .
My advice is put a replacement engine in her without informing DVLA and make sure its the same person who takes the engine out that fits the replacement
Get her up and running and promptly sold back into the Trade . this way you will at least salvage some money and not be looking at a total loss situation as you are now .
If it were me the car would have been towed to a quiet spot somewhere and promptly incinerated . After all , its only this sort of circumstance where Insurance Policies have any value .
My advice is put a replacement engine in her without informing DVLA and make sure its the same person who takes the engine out that fits the replacement
Get her up and running and promptly sold back into the Trade . this way you will at least salvage some money and not be looking at a total loss situation as you are now .
I’m quite capable of breaking for parts but it’s a lot of hassle and would take time to recoup my money to buy a new daily. I’m also devastated about it to be honest.
Talking to someone in the trade today, a lot of the replacement engines end up going into Range Rovers or Discoverys, so they’re not cheap. A quick browse around showed them being between £2500-£4000, not counting fitting, on a car that’s probably worth £6000.
I bought it for £8000 two years ago, and have ended up spending about £3500 in repairs since then, so you can imagine my reluctance to spend any more.
Is it really the case that this car as is, is worth less than a complete car minus the cost of fitting and supplying a new lump?
Talking to someone in the trade today, a lot of the replacement engines end up going into Range Rovers or Discoverys, so they’re not cheap. A quick browse around showed them being between £2500-£4000, not counting fitting, on a car that’s probably worth £6000.
I bought it for £8000 two years ago, and have ended up spending about £3500 in repairs since then, so you can imagine my reluctance to spend any more.
Is it really the case that this car as is, is worth less than a complete car minus the cost of fitting and supplying a new lump?
Even if you spend £4K on a new engine, you still have a car worth £6k (2k left in it). What’s it worth with no engine? A load of hassle and probably £2k I’d you’re lucky. It’ll have a CAN bus so I’d imagine most of the parts are coded to the car so not easily transferred between different models. PITA. Unlucky but if it were mine I’d get it fixed and then keep it or flog it.
Something like this looks like a safe bet and comes with a warranty
https://nwsmotorservices.com/engine-models/diesel/...
Don’t set fire to it, insurance fraud is bad.
Something like this looks like a safe bet and comes with a warranty
https://nwsmotorservices.com/engine-models/diesel/...
Don’t set fire to it, insurance fraud is bad.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 1st August 21:41
Jim1985 said:
I’m quite capable of breaking for parts but it’s a lot of hassle and would take time to recoup my money to buy a new daily. I’m also devastated about it to be honest.
Talking to someone in the trade today, a lot of the replacement engines end up going into Range Rovers or Discoverys, so they’re not cheap. A quick browse around showed them being between £2500-£4000, not counting fitting, on a car that’s probably worth £6000.
I bought it for £8000 two years ago, and have ended up spending about £3500 in repairs since then, so you can imagine my reluctance to spend any more.
Is it really the case that this car as is, is worth less than a complete car minus the cost of fitting and supplying a new lump?
Realistically you should be able to obtain an engine much cheaper than that . I wonder about the demand for XF parts and how long you would be in recouping a sizeable return ,Talking to someone in the trade today, a lot of the replacement engines end up going into Range Rovers or Discoverys, so they’re not cheap. A quick browse around showed them being between £2500-£4000, not counting fitting, on a car that’s probably worth £6000.
I bought it for £8000 two years ago, and have ended up spending about £3500 in repairs since then, so you can imagine my reluctance to spend any more.
Is it really the case that this car as is, is worth less than a complete car minus the cost of fitting and supplying a new lump?
Alternatively why don't you give someone like Copart a phone or indeed any Breaker , that way you can at least gauge what the Car is worth to the Trade .
https://www.trents.co.uk/car-parts/makes/other-mak...
Edited by reddiesel on Tuesday 1st August 22:08
Edited by reddiesel on Tuesday 1st August 22:19
As tempting as it is (talking in a whimsical manner online), I won't be engaging in any fire based shenanigans; however I appreciate the sentiment it was meant in.
I see the point people are making regarding fitting a replacement engine, however with this being the 3rd major breakdown in 2 years, and the car having other niggly issues, I'm at a point where I don't trust it to not fail catastrophically again.
I feel like I've fallen out with it.
Also, having done a Webuyanycar & Evans Halshaw valuation if it was running, they've said its worth £2000-2500.
First price back for it as-is: £1700.
I'm not going to rush into anything, but I've spent £3500 in 2 years ownership of a car I bought for £8000.
I see the point people are making regarding fitting a replacement engine, however with this being the 3rd major breakdown in 2 years, and the car having other niggly issues, I'm at a point where I don't trust it to not fail catastrophically again.
I feel like I've fallen out with it.
Also, having done a Webuyanycar & Evans Halshaw valuation if it was running, they've said its worth £2000-2500.
First price back for it as-is: £1700.
I'm not going to rush into anything, but I've spent £3500 in 2 years ownership of a car I bought for £8000.
Snapped crank is a common issue apparently with the 3.0D V6.
The other issues were the plastic inlet manifolds split, leading to the dreaded "restricted performance" warning, and limp mode.
Later the electronic parking brake module failed, and that's a big job to fix, dropping the exhaust, rear subframe etc
The other issues were the plastic inlet manifolds split, leading to the dreaded "restricted performance" warning, and limp mode.
Later the electronic parking brake module failed, and that's a big job to fix, dropping the exhaust, rear subframe etc
Crikey OP, my sympathies.
I started looking at these a few months ago as I liek the styling and I'm bnasically fed up of potholes everywhere so wanted something with softer suspension than my M3 for daily chores.
Then I started reading about the engine failures. As I understand it these are related to to fuel contaminating the oil when repeated DPF regens do not complete due to short mileage.
Just out of interest are you symptomatic of that? Lots of short journeys in a diesel that don't really give the DPF a chance to properly regen?
Commiserations, it must be hard to sink a lot of money into a car and come up against these consequences.
I started looking at these a few months ago as I liek the styling and I'm bnasically fed up of potholes everywhere so wanted something with softer suspension than my M3 for daily chores.
Then I started reading about the engine failures. As I understand it these are related to to fuel contaminating the oil when repeated DPF regens do not complete due to short mileage.
Just out of interest are you symptomatic of that? Lots of short journeys in a diesel that don't really give the DPF a chance to properly regen?
Commiserations, it must be hard to sink a lot of money into a car and come up against these consequences.
Jim1985 said:
Snapped crank is a common issue apparently with the 3.0D V6.
The other issues were the plastic inlet manifolds split, leading to the dreaded "restricted performance" warning, and limp mode.
Later the electronic parking brake module failed, and that's a big job to fix, dropping the exhaust, rear subframe etc
Same problems as the Land Rovers unsurprisingly. Snapped crank is usually due to a spun bearing leading to oil starvation. Don’t know why SD and TDV6s have suffered with main bearing issues but they do. I’ve had 2 Land Rovers with these engines over a 15 year period. First one, a D3 did almost 200k miles by the time I sold it and m D4 has done almost 90k. It seems to be luck of the draw. I’ve had the split intake manifolds issue but “they all do that” and are good once done, just annoying to pay for. The other issues were the plastic inlet manifolds split, leading to the dreaded "restricted performance" warning, and limp mode.
Later the electronic parking brake module failed, and that's a big job to fix, dropping the exhaust, rear subframe etc
Expensive cars, bought cheaply can always bite. My P38 Range Rover which is worth about 3-4K is about to hit me for a bill of 2k. New shocks and suspension air bags being fitted along with a new transmission cooler. I just look at is as cost of ownership and you save on the original purchase price. Nothing compared to what you’d pay in depreciation for a new car mind.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 2nd August 11:56
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