IPace

[bad company]

I’ve never had an ev before so something of a brave pill moment for me. Anyone here running one?

I’ll keep the car in my garage so I can get a home charger installed. I’m still concerned about the range on longer journeys though.

Jaguar are offering 0% PCP so presumably if I hate the car I can get out of it reasonably cheaply.

[Discombobulate]

bad company said:

I’ve never had an ev before so something of a brave pill moment for me. Anyone here running one?

I’ll keep the car in my garage so I can get a home charger installed. I’m still concerned about the range on longer journeys though.

Jaguar are offering 0% PCP so presumably if I hate the car I can get out of it reasonably cheaply.

I have had one for a year. Last daily was B9 RS4. Looked at Taycan but iPace is a great drive and a nice place to sit - and much cheaper. Good looking for an EV too. Build quality (thanks to Magna Steyr) is at least as good as the Audi. Not so sure about Jaguar dealers though...
No issues so far. Range 200 - 240 miles depending on the weather. Fast and very refined.
Not the quickest charging car - 50-70kwh typical - but I have only used public chargers 3 times in 10,000 miles so doesn't bother me.
Not as efficient as Tesla. I am averaging 2.8miles / kWh but push on a bit. Equates to around 5p per mile fuel on Octopus Intelligent (latest tariff is normal tariff during day but 7.5p per unit at night).

And they are cheap at the moment if you buy used thanks to horrendous depreciation hitting all EVs.

[djglover]

I drive one. In summer in an unladen car I can get a range of around 290 on my M1 commute. In winter this does drop quite significantly 220-230 is more realistic.

Again with the charging, its rarely a problem as in 20,000 miles I've used public chargers around a dozen times.

Its a great driving car for its type. I've driven many EVs and I would say Taycan and Model 3 performance were more fun.

[Graham]

had mine 18 months and done 20k. I think its awesome.

i concur with the range generally getting 220-240 but if i could be bothered to do a run at 55 i recon it would top 300.

charging tops out at 112kw for a very brief period, but on long trips ive generally struggled to find chargers over 50kw so a car that will charge faster is a bit pointless. No doubt that will change, but equally it will then probably mean the 50kw chargers are less busy.

i do a regular 300 mile run from glasgow to midlands with a destination charger at both ends. i can leave the glasgow office with a full charge, sit at 60-70 and get away with 1 15 min stop, pull in plug in, walk into shop have a coffee and a pee, cars done and of i go.

The jag is a loverly place to be, and a great drive and a total hooligan if you want it to be. mines been faultless so far. The only thing i would consider changing it for is a taycan and the price of a taycan starts where the ipace stops, and you have to spend a lot on a tycan to get same performance and range... easy to spend double !!!


would i recommend an ev

yes if the following is true
1) Your journeys are within range back to a home charger
2) Your journeys are within range point to point with a destination charger at both ends that you can guarantee access to
3) you have regular journeys over range where you can plan charge stops.

No if the following is true
1) most of your journeys are spur of the moment, short notice and over range of the car...

[fatboy b]

Graham said:

would i recommend an ev

yes if the following is true
1) Your journeys are within range back to a home charger
2) Your journeys are within range point to point with a destination charger at both ends that you can guarantee access to
3) you have regular journeys over range where you can plan charge stops.

No if the following is true
1) most of your journeys are spur of the moment, short notice and over range of the car...

Pretty much what Harry Metcalfe said, and was the reason he got rid of his and went to a hybrid. You’re pretty much on a a 100-mile leash as the public charging became a ‘mare for him. If that works for you then great, otherwise look elsewhere.

[bad company]

fatboy b said:

Pretty much what Harry Metcalfe said, and was the reason he got rid of his and went to a hybrid. You’re pretty much on a a 100-mile leash as the public charging became a ‘mare for him. If that works for you then great, otherwise look elsewhere.

A ‘100-mile leash’? The car’s good for 250-260 miles apparently, unless you mean 100 miles each way?

[bad company]

I liked the look of this until I realised that it has ‘22” style 5056 gloss black wheels’. That’ll really reduce the range.


https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15454397

[fatboy b]

bad company said:

fatboy b said:

Pretty much what Harry Metcalfe said, and was the reason he got rid of his and went to a hybrid. You’re pretty much on a a 100-mile leash as the public charging became a ‘mare for him. If that works for you then great, otherwise look elsewhere.

A ‘100-mile leash’? The car’s good for 250-260 miles apparently, unless you mean 100 miles each way?

That’s exactly what Harry called it, and I understood it. 100 miles out and a 100 miles back. It’s not difficult darling.

[bad company]

fatboy b said:

bad company said:

fatboy b said:

Pretty much what Harry Metcalfe said, and was the reason he got rid of his and went to a hybrid. You’re pretty much on a a 100-mile leash as the public charging became a ‘mare for him. If that works for you then great, otherwise look elsewhere.

A ‘100-mile leash’? The car’s good for 250-260 miles apparently, unless you mean 100 miles each way?

That’s exactly what Harry called it, and I understood it. 100 miles out and a 100 miles back. It’s not difficult darling.

Just checking sweetheart.

[fatboy b]

bad company said:

fatboy b said:

bad company said:

fatboy b said:

Pretty much what Harry Metcalfe said, and was the reason he got rid of his and went to a hybrid. You’re pretty much on a a 100-mile leash as the public charging became a ‘mare for him. If that works for you then great, otherwise look elsewhere.

A ‘100-mile leash’? The car’s good for 250-260 miles apparently, unless you mean 100 miles each way?

That’s exactly what Harry called it, and I understood it. 100 miles out and a 100 miles back. It’s not difficult darling.

Just checking sweetheart.

[oop north]

Had one from April 2019 for three years / 29k miles (would have been much higher but lockdown / covid…). Fab car and I still miss it. My winter range was 170-180 and summer 220-230. My brother in law has a later one and its range is 10%+ better.

I now have a bmw ix50 and up to 330 miles range and up to 185kW charging (that’s the fastest I have seen) is a huge improvement eg 390 miles round trip Edinburgh and back with 15 minutes charging rather than two hours in the ipace though a fair bit of the improvement is from better chargers, as the charging network has got better this year (after being a bit stagnant for the previous 2-3 years) from NW England to Edinburgh and Aberystwyth.

[fatboy b]

oop north said:

Had one from April 2019 for three years / 29k miles (would have been much higher but lockdown / covid…). Fab car and I still miss it. My winter range was 170-180 and summer 220-230. My brother in law has a later one and its range is 10%+ better.

I now have a bmw ix50 and up to 330 miles range and up to 185kW charging (that’s the fastest I have seen) is a huge improvement eg 390 miles round trip Edinburgh and back with 15 minutes charging rather than two hours in the ipace though a fair bit of the improvement is from better chargers, as the charging network has got better this year (after being a bit stagnant for the previous 2-3 years) from NW England to Edinburgh and Aberystwyth.

Apparently the charging network is getting worse in terms of the car-to-charger ratio.

[oop north]

fatboy b said:

Apparently the charging network is getting worse in terms of the car-to-charger ratio.

Depends where you are / where you go. It is currently a lot better than 18 months ago (based on my experience across the north west of England, Scottish Borders and Edinburgh, the A1 from the M62 down to Grantham and wales between Wrexham and Aberystwyth). I think with experience and planning mostly it’s reliable but of course there are always exceptions

[JonnyVTEC]

fatboy b said:

Pretty much what Harry Metcalfe said, and was the reason he got rid of his and went to a hybrid. You’re pretty much on a a 100-mile leash as the public charging became a ‘mare for him. If that works for you then great, otherwise look elsewhere.

He borrowed it and it was about the weakest review he’s ever done. Really poor.

[rosino]

Been looking at these as a daily mostly urban family car. The depreciation is horrendous which means I could pick a fairly lavishly equipped HSE with panoramic roof 2021 facelifted pivi pro model for sub 40k now. Incredible some ppl would buy new.. unless you buy from a company with the 2% bik arbitrage. Mental.

I see iX3 as competition as it’s a very nice car from tech perspective, bit more range, faster charging but slower and possibly less fun?

IX is much more expensive used for similar / slightly higher range but better tech and charging speed again, probably more boaty feel too.

E-tron lower range and much less sporty, very fast charging though. Q4 I see as too expensive for the plastic interior.

not much else out there I would consider with pure electric