Thinking of a new F Type R, any thing I should look out for?
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Hi there
Been on the fence about an F type R for a while, but think I am about to bite the bullet. I haven't owned a Jaguar beforehand.
Just wanted some advice on what sort of spec to look out for, I mean they seem like they come very well equipped as standard with minimal added packs.
Just a climate pack and the black design package that everyone seems to option anyway.
Any advice or thoughts would be a appreciated, I did take a test drive in it a few days ago and I thought it was fantastic.
I currently have a deposit on a 992 911 but my patience has totally gone now so expanded my options.
Thanks
Been on the fence about an F type R for a while, but think I am about to bite the bullet. I haven't owned a Jaguar beforehand.
Just wanted some advice on what sort of spec to look out for, I mean they seem like they come very well equipped as standard with minimal added packs.
Just a climate pack and the black design package that everyone seems to option anyway.
Any advice or thoughts would be a appreciated, I did take a test drive in it a few days ago and I thought it was fantastic.
I currently have a deposit on a 992 911 but my patience has totally gone now so expanded my options.
Thanks
- Edited to say it would be the P575 model.
Going to keep an eye on this thread. Was going to get a Cayman, either a GT4 or GTS but everywhere seems to have them priced significantly over list. A 911 crossed my mind but it would be one that is at least 6 years old, then suddenly thought of the F Type. For the price of the Caymans you can get a P450 or R will AWD with 450 or 575bhp - they seem fantastic value for money. I haven't driven one yet but the 1 or 2 year old ones are in the £60k bracket which makes me keep looking at it even if perhaps it doesn't quite match the Porsches but you're getting AWD and more power! I have looked at a lot of reviews and they all seem very positive about the F Types.... and then there's the sound of the V8..
wylie coyote said:
Going to keep an eye on this thread. Was going to get a Cayman, either a GT4 or GTS but everywhere seems to have them priced significantly over list. A 911 crossed my mind but it would be one that is at least 6 years old, then suddenly thought of the F Type. For the price of the Caymans you can get a P450 or R will AWD with 450 or 575bhp - they seem fantastic value for money. I haven't driven one yet but the 1 or 2 year old ones are in the £60k bracket which makes me keep looking at it even if perhaps it doesn't quite match the Porsches but you're getting AWD and more power! I have looked at a lot of reviews and they all seem very positive about the F Types.... and then there's the sound of the V8..
I actually had a test drive in a brand new F Type R 575 on Weds. It really really is a special car, a great GT car and the sound is truly addictive. It is an amazing car and very well equipped with a lot of things has standard. It actually is a bit of a no brainer and this is coming from someone spending hrs and hrs on the porsche config and getting fed up of them charging for literally every single item possible. The math for me doesn't really make sense for me on a brand new F Type R 575 even though lots of deals are offering very good discounts etc. So I am thinking about going for 21 or early 22 as prices seems very reasonable and the math makes a bit more sense.
I couldn’t fault your choice it’s a wonderful machine in that specification . I would also consider the SVR especially if you can get a low mileage example of comparable age . I don’t want to turn this into Porsche thread but I completely understand where you’re coming from . The new Vantage is a little more money but delivers similar experiences .
Good choice. I tested a 6-month-old P575 before buying a late low mileage SVR. Both cars felt very similar to drive. The P575 has the advantage of being newer with warranty and some extra features (eg digital dash) but didn’t have the unique styling and carbon options that the SVR offers.
The P575 is also surprisingly quiet/refined - a positive or negative depending what you like/want.
A nearly new F-type (or new one with decent discount) seems like a lot of car for the money.
I’ve owned my 2019MY SVR for a couple of months now and summary is:
Great looks - just seeing it sat on the drive gives me joy.
Performance - it is properly quick (almost too quick sometimes - I’ve also driven a P450 and that felt plenty quick enough in reality).
Sporty GT character - to my mind it is half way between a sports car and a GT so you’ll either think it’s a perfect compromise or potentially want something more sporty or more refined.
It’s not a Porsche - I’ve not owned a Porsche but admire them and happy to accept they are objectively better cars but I’d rather have 95% ability with more character for much less cash
Enjoy the search.
The P575 is also surprisingly quiet/refined - a positive or negative depending what you like/want.
A nearly new F-type (or new one with decent discount) seems like a lot of car for the money.
I’ve owned my 2019MY SVR for a couple of months now and summary is:
Great looks - just seeing it sat on the drive gives me joy.
Performance - it is properly quick (almost too quick sometimes - I’ve also driven a P450 and that felt plenty quick enough in reality).
Sporty GT character - to my mind it is half way between a sports car and a GT so you’ll either think it’s a perfect compromise or potentially want something more sporty or more refined.
It’s not a Porsche - I’ve not owned a Porsche but admire them and happy to accept they are objectively better cars but I’d rather have 95% ability with more character for much less cash
Enjoy the search.
@Reddiesel - Thanks, just to understand this the SVR was pre face lift in 2019 right? The vantage is a lovely car and I did actually consider it too but as you said it is more money.
@Jagsseven - I have heard the SVR is very loud, but as I have no experience of the SVR when I test drove the R it sounded perfectly fine especially with the rev limiter and restrictions on most modern performance cars.
I am a little confused though, after the facelift, in 2020 I think it gained few more hp to 575 and lost the SV and was just called the R?
So what they call the R75, is that the same as a post facelift R P575?
I mean the more I look at it with my head and not my heart the F Type 575 is really a no brainer.
I have this one in mind https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302244...
Any thoughts?
@Jagsseven - I have heard the SVR is very loud, but as I have no experience of the SVR when I test drove the R it sounded perfectly fine especially with the rev limiter and restrictions on most modern performance cars.
I am a little confused though, after the facelift, in 2020 I think it gained few more hp to 575 and lost the SV and was just called the R?
So what they call the R75, is that the same as a post facelift R P575?
I mean the more I look at it with my head and not my heart the F Type 575 is really a no brainer.
I have this one in mind https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302244...
Any thoughts?
Can I please urge you to be completely meticulous in your checks prior to purchasing . Under no circumstances make any assumptions about the cars condition simply because it is coming from a Main Dealer
and especially so if JLR is the previous Owner on the log book . This is simply shorthand for the car being previously subject to a Leasing Agreement . Your first check should be the rubber seal between the glass roof and the top of the bodywork . Look for signs of overspray of paint or lacquer on the seal and any masking lines . The glass roof is never removed so if any fresh paint has been applied it will be relatively easy to spot . SVRs many of which took part in Trackdays and suffered the occasional mishap in the gravel should be gone over with a fine tooth comb
and especially so if JLR is the previous Owner on the log book . This is simply shorthand for the car being previously subject to a Leasing Agreement . Your first check should be the rubber seal between the glass roof and the top of the bodywork . Look for signs of overspray of paint or lacquer on the seal and any masking lines . The glass roof is never removed so if any fresh paint has been applied it will be relatively easy to spot . SVRs many of which took part in Trackdays and suffered the occasional mishap in the gravel should be gone over with a fine tooth comb
MikeM3Power said:
@Reddiesel - Thanks, just to understand this the SVR was pre face lift in 2019 right? The vantage is a lovely car and I did actually consider it too but as you said it is more money.
@Jagsseven - I have heard the SVR is very loud, but as I have no experience of the SVR when I test drove the R it sounded perfectly fine especially with the rev limiter and restrictions on most modern performance cars.
I am a little confused though, after the facelift, in 2020 I think it gained few more hp to 575 and lost the SV and was just called the R?
So what they call the R75, is that the same as a post facelift R P575?
I mean the more I look at it with my head and not my heart the F Type 575 is really a no brainer.
I have this one in mind https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302244...
Any thoughts?
Hi Mike,@Jagsseven - I have heard the SVR is very loud, but as I have no experience of the SVR when I test drove the R it sounded perfectly fine especially with the rev limiter and restrictions on most modern performance cars.
I am a little confused though, after the facelift, in 2020 I think it gained few more hp to 575 and lost the SV and was just called the R?
So what they call the R75, is that the same as a post facelift R P575?
I mean the more I look at it with my head and not my heart the F Type 575 is really a no brainer.
I have this one in mind https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302244...
Any thoughts?
I'm probably a bit late to this for you. The R75 is in effect the SVR in new clothing, an evolution. It has the underpinnings of the SVR and some further tweaks to the suspension over the SVR as well as the uprated output (575 to 550). What it doesn't have is the panelling that the SVR had (side vented wing and carbon fibre parts).
I've previously owned both new an F Type (S V6 Supercharged) and a Porsche (718 Spyder/GT4). The argument over Porsche vs Jaguar will rage on. However as someone who's owned both I will make this observation - the Porsche was a better handling car on the twisty stuff and it's marginally better put together. That's it. The F Type, as someone mentioned earlier is somewhere between a GT and a sports car. I would argue the 911 is also that too now given it's size. Here's the thing though (and this is a personal thing). When I got out of the Porsche, did I look back? Rarely. When I got out of the F Type, I always looked back and I still admire the car today when I see them on the road. 911's, they're ubiquitous (and look like a frog :-). I am guaranteed to see one every day, if not more than one. F Types, I might see one, or two a week. For me also, there's something about having a "back seat" (911's). You can put the kids in it!!! That's just not rock 'n roll is it :-)
I sold the Spyder, as good a handling car as it was (in my opinion a better car than the 911 - definitely better handling with a 911 engine under the hood but in the centre of the car not the rear). I'm buying an F-Type R75 instead. It goes into build next week.
It's a personal choice so there is no right and wrong. Some go into this with residual values in mind. On that point, the Porsche will always win. However, in my view, if you go into buying a car, thinking about selling it, you should ask yourself are you really buying it for the right reasons? Fun and something beautiful has to be paramount in such cars, for me anyway.
As Red mentions - the Vantage is a very similar car, more cachet maybe with the badge and that is reflected in the price. Again, it's a choice thing (there's always a Vantage for your price - it's just how old you're prepared to go). In my case, a badge means nothing to me (if it did I wouldn't have bought Morgan Aero 8's when I could have had anything, or Honda S2000's when I could have had Boxsters). Having driven the new Vantage and the F-Type, I'd say there's next to nothing in it save for nuances. It really comes down to preference, budget and beauty in your own eye.
SVR over a newer R 575 - As with many things Jaguar, it's just a name. Mechanically, they're the same. The SVR was more powerful than any F Type "before" it. Not after it. The SVR IS however, drop dead gorgeous, styling wise. It was touch and go on whether I bought as late a model SVR as I could find or a new R75 for that reason.
I wish you all the best Mike in your decision. Whatever you decide, it's a nice decision to be making.
Edited by TheCoot on Sunday 14th May 02:16
I think you're right Red, there may not be much in it. The age difference may play a small part ie a 575 four years younger than an SVR. But I think if you compared like for like, the SVR will always carry a premium because it is the only special vehicle division F Type produced and in short numbers. For the buyer, whilst F Types are still being produced, it can present a dilemma. But I think once production stops, and with the passage of time, the SVR will hold value better than a 575.
Were I thinking to off load my next F Type, I would probably have chosen a late SVR. But I intend keeping it until either it's taxed off the road, I can't get fuel for it or I'm pushing up daisies. So I settled on a R75 as I wanted to spec it, the warranty and the knowledge I will be the only owner. Not to mention it's the last F Type, the last V8, the last ICE sports car Jaguar will produce and it's fitting we celebrate 75 years of Jaguar ICE sports cars......they are special and above all, British (Tata aside, they're the shareholder, they don't design and build them).
Hope the Vantage is bringing you joy. They're a beautiful thing.
Were I thinking to off load my next F Type, I would probably have chosen a late SVR. But I intend keeping it until either it's taxed off the road, I can't get fuel for it or I'm pushing up daisies. So I settled on a R75 as I wanted to spec it, the warranty and the knowledge I will be the only owner. Not to mention it's the last F Type, the last V8, the last ICE sports car Jaguar will produce and it's fitting we celebrate 75 years of Jaguar ICE sports cars......they are special and above all, British (Tata aside, they're the shareholder, they don't design and build them).
Hope the Vantage is bringing you joy. They're a beautiful thing.
TheCoot said:
Hi Mike,
I'm probably a bit late to this for you. The R75 is in effect the SVR in new clothing, an evolution. It has the underpinnings of the SVR and some further tweaks to the suspension over the SVR as well as the uprated output (575 to 550). What it doesn't have is the panelling that the SVR had (side vented wing and carbon fibre parts).
I've previously owned both new an F Type (S V6 Supercharged) and a Porsche (718 Spyder/GT4). The argument over Porsche vs Jaguar will rage on. However as someone who's owned both I will make this observation - the Porsche was a better handling car on the twisty stuff and it's marginally better put together. That's it. The F Type, as someone mentioned earlier is somewhere between a GT and a sports car. I would argue the 911 is also that too now given it's size. Here's the thing though (and this is a personal thing). When I got out of the Porsche, did I look back? Rarely. When I got out of the F Type, I always looked back and I still admire the car today when I see them on the road. 911's, they're ubiquitous (and look like a frog :-). I am guaranteed to see one every day, if not more than one. F Types, I might see one, or two a week. For me also, there's something about having a "back seat" (911's). You can put the kids in it!!! That's just not rock 'n roll is it :-)
I sold the Spyder, as good a handling car as it was (in my opinion a better car than the 911 - definitely better handling with a 911 engine under the hood but in the centre of the car not the rear). I'm buying an F-Type R75 instead. It goes into build next week.
It's a personal choice so there is no right and wrong. Some go into this with residual values in mind. On that point, the Porsche will always win. However, in my view, if you go into buying a car, thinking about selling it, you should ask yourself are you really buying it for the right reasons? Fun and something beautiful has to be paramount in such cars, for me anyway.
As Red mentions - the Vantage is a very similar car, more cachet maybe with the badge and that is reflected in the price. Again, it's a choice thing (there's always a Vantage for your price - it's just how old you're prepared to go). In my case, a badge means nothing to me (if it did I wouldn't have bought Morgan Aero 8's when I could have had anything, or Honda S2000's when I could have had Boxsters). Having driven the new Vantage and the F-Type, I'd say there's next to nothing in it save for nuances. It really comes down to preference, budget and beauty in your own eye.
SVR over a newer R 575 - As with many things Jaguar, it's just a name. Mechanically, they're the same. The SVR was more powerful than any F Type "before" it. Not after it. The SVR IS however, drop dead gorgeous, styling wise. It was touch and go on whether I bought as late a model SVR as I could find or a new R75 for that reason.
I wish you all the best Mike in your decision. Whatever you decide, it's a nice decision to be making.
Hi Coot,I'm probably a bit late to this for you. The R75 is in effect the SVR in new clothing, an evolution. It has the underpinnings of the SVR and some further tweaks to the suspension over the SVR as well as the uprated output (575 to 550). What it doesn't have is the panelling that the SVR had (side vented wing and carbon fibre parts).
I've previously owned both new an F Type (S V6 Supercharged) and a Porsche (718 Spyder/GT4). The argument over Porsche vs Jaguar will rage on. However as someone who's owned both I will make this observation - the Porsche was a better handling car on the twisty stuff and it's marginally better put together. That's it. The F Type, as someone mentioned earlier is somewhere between a GT and a sports car. I would argue the 911 is also that too now given it's size. Here's the thing though (and this is a personal thing). When I got out of the Porsche, did I look back? Rarely. When I got out of the F Type, I always looked back and I still admire the car today when I see them on the road. 911's, they're ubiquitous (and look like a frog :-). I am guaranteed to see one every day, if not more than one. F Types, I might see one, or two a week. For me also, there's something about having a "back seat" (911's). You can put the kids in it!!! That's just not rock 'n roll is it :-)
I sold the Spyder, as good a handling car as it was (in my opinion a better car than the 911 - definitely better handling with a 911 engine under the hood but in the centre of the car not the rear). I'm buying an F-Type R75 instead. It goes into build next week.
It's a personal choice so there is no right and wrong. Some go into this with residual values in mind. On that point, the Porsche will always win. However, in my view, if you go into buying a car, thinking about selling it, you should ask yourself are you really buying it for the right reasons? Fun and something beautiful has to be paramount in such cars, for me anyway.
As Red mentions - the Vantage is a very similar car, more cachet maybe with the badge and that is reflected in the price. Again, it's a choice thing (there's always a Vantage for your price - it's just how old you're prepared to go). In my case, a badge means nothing to me (if it did I wouldn't have bought Morgan Aero 8's when I could have had anything, or Honda S2000's when I could have had Boxsters). Having driven the new Vantage and the F-Type, I'd say there's next to nothing in it save for nuances. It really comes down to preference, budget and beauty in your own eye.
SVR over a newer R 575 - As with many things Jaguar, it's just a name. Mechanically, they're the same. The SVR was more powerful than any F Type "before" it. Not after it. The SVR IS however, drop dead gorgeous, styling wise. It was touch and go on whether I bought as late a model SVR as I could find or a new R75 for that reason.
I wish you all the best Mike in your decision. Whatever you decide, it's a nice decision to be making.
Edited by TheCoot on Sunday 14th May 02:16
It's never too late
, thanks for the indept reply. I actually did pick one up, not brand new but 18mths old. It really is an amazing motor and I am more than happy with it and definitely made the right choice. It gets a lot of attention (if thats your thing). And a lot of admiration. And I actually got 35mpg on a run back from the dealers.
I haven't really played around with it much apart from small trips. But I am super happy and not in anyway have I regretted cancelling the Porsche 911 order for it. They even tried to offer me a discount not to cancel but I mind was already made up.
The 02 sensor light did come up but that was replaced and rectified the every next day.
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