Ready For The Show Season

Ready For The Show Season

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reddiesel

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52 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/2...

£22,000 bought this Classic Sixties Jaguar and its a lovely looking car with the Restoration not long done . Personally I always think the Wing Mirrors tend to date the shape making the Car seem that bit older , many simply fit a period overtaking mirror on the Drivers door which for me looks much better . That said its a purely personal viewpoint and the interior and overall colour are close to perfection and good to see no almost obligatory wire wheels on this one
With Summer just around the corner you would hope the Owner will be getting ready to visit some of the many Jaguar gatherings up and down the Country , at a shade over £20k I think he got a bargain .

a8hex

5,830 posts

228 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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It's rather lovely but then I've always had somewhat of a soft spot for S-Types.
Modern vehicle engineers looking at NVH should be sent for a ride in one of these to understand the concept of ride comfort.

reddiesel

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a8hex said:
It's rather lovely but then I've always had somewhat of a soft spot for S-Types.
Modern vehicle engineers looking at NVH should be sent for a ride in one of these to understand the concept of ride comfort.
I remember you saying something similar a while back . Its a beautiful sixties Jaguar colour and looking at her now you can appreciate what a sea change the XJ MK1 was only a few years afterwards . It strikes me as a very fair price for what it is and I really hope the Owner enjoys her and get her out to the various gatherings . Unfortunately there is no guarantee that she hasn't been snapped up by the Trade and will shortly appear with another £10k added to the asking price . I really hope thats not the case .

a8hex

5,830 posts

228 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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reddiesel said:
I remember you saying something similar a while back . Its a beautiful sixties Jaguar colour and looking at her now you can appreciate what a sea change the XJ MK1 was only a few years afterwards . It strikes me as a very fair price for what it is and I really hope the Owner enjoys her and get her out to the various gatherings . Unfortunately there is no guarantee that she hasn't been snapped up by the Trade and will shortly appear with another £10k added to the asking price . I really hope thats not the case .
I looked at buying an S-Type when my kids started to object to being in the back of the XK150 and I was told I couldn't trade them for less complaining versions. Then I got side tracked by "upgrading" the 150 to be more interesting on track days.
It's no wonder that there's a big change from the S-Type to the XJ. The S-Type started life as the Mk3 and is clearly a styling evolution from there. The XJ styling builds on the Mk10(420G) and the updated S which became the 420. IIRC there's 6 years between the S and XJ, plenty of time for development. The S was probably done on the cheap as Sir William was inclined and use as much of the Mk2 underpinnings as possible with the new rear axle assembly bolted on the back, so lots of it will have dated back into the 50s. The XJ was probably the biggest project that Jaguar had ever worked on.

reddiesel

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Tuesday 4th April 2023
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Talking about your earlier ownership of the X150 I have been meaning to ask you if you ever came across Oldham and Crowther and if so what your thoughts and experiences were . I first came across them as a 10 year old in a Glasgow Council Flat reading about their exploits in Racing and Restoring Jaguar XKs in the early Seventies . My old man was an Electrician with the Council and at the weekends would do "Homers" ( private jobs) for a wealthy Farmer who's Son in Law was into Classic Cars and would give my father old issues of Motor Sport and Classic Car . This really was the birth of the Classic Car Industry as we now know it . Motor Sport has been published since early in the last Century but Classic and Thoroughbred Car as it was once known was to my knowledge the first Magazine to address this marketplace and I devoured these very early issues . I was actually telling a bloke down the pub about these Motor Sport Magazines back in the late sixties and early seventies containing "For Sale" ads for old Rolls Royce fitted with various coach built Bodywork . These ads would read " Ex Maharajah of Mysore " or " the former Property of Bhupinder Singh ". They would often be fitted with Custom Bodywork for shooting Lions or some other now Politically Incorrect pursuit . For me anyway it was amazing to think of these old Cars firstly being exported out there and then subsequently after the fall of the British Empire being repatriated . Some times the pictures would show the Car in period with some Maharajah leaning out of it with a Gun and then as it was discovered long abandoned in some shed in Rawalpindi . I often think what happened to these Cars and the Dealers who searched for and subsequently repatriated them . Anyway I completely digress but Oldham and Crowther were based in Peterborough I believe and one Bloke on another Forum actually turned up and had been employed there . I think he said that after a while the Business lost viability Crowther had subsequently died whilst Ruth Oldham who was a character in her own right had moved to Europe and sold Real Estate .
I do hope you or indeed anyone else have come across them , they have literally been fixed in my head all these years similar to when I saw my first E Type . Laying in Bed at night as a kid , complete with torch reading about a long abandoned XK150 being pulled from a Hedgerow in Somerset and trailered back to Oldham and Crowther was wonderful .

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

215 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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reddiesel said:
a8hex said:
It's rather lovely but then I've always had somewhat of a soft spot for S-Types.
Modern vehicle engineers looking at NVH should be sent for a ride in one of these to understand the concept of ride comfort.
I remember you saying something similar a while back . Its a beautiful sixties Jaguar colour and looking at her now you can appreciate what a sea change the XJ MK1 was only a few years afterwards . It strikes me as a very fair price for what it is and I really hope the Owner enjoys her and get her out to the various gatherings . Unfortunately there is no guarantee that she hasn't been snapped up by the Trade and will shortly appear with another £10k added to the asking price . I really hope thats not the case .
Advertised on carsandclassic by a dealer in Cambridge right now.

£26996.


reddiesel

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Tuesday 4th April 2023
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Typical Steve , you have to smile .

a8hex

5,830 posts

228 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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reddiesel said:
Talking about your earlier ownership of the X150 I have been meaning to ask you if you ever came across Oldham and Crowther and if so what your thoughts and experiences were . I first came across them as a 10 year old in a Glasgow Council Flat reading about their exploits in Racing and Restoring Jaguar XKs in the early Seventies . My old man was an Electrician with the Council and at the weekends would do "Homers" ( private jobs) for a wealthy Farmer who's Son in Law was into Classic Cars and would give my father old issues of Motor Sport and Classic Car . This really was the birth of the Classic Car Industry as we now know it . Motor Sport has been published since early in the last Century but Classic and Thoroughbred Car as it was once known was to my knowledge the first Magazine to address this marketplace and I devoured these very early issues . I was actually telling a bloke down the pub about these Motor Sport Magazines back in the late sixties and early seventies containing "For Sale" ads for old Rolls Royce fitted with various coach built Bodywork . These ads would read " Ex Maharajah of Mysore " or " the former Property of Bhupinder Singh ". They would often be fitted with Custom Bodywork for shooting Lions or some other now Politically Incorrect pursuit . For me anyway it was amazing to think of these old Cars firstly being exported out there and then subsequently after the fall of the British Empire being repatriated . Some times the pictures would show the Car in period with some Maharajah leaning out of it with a Gun and then as it was discovered long abandoned in some shed in Rawalpindi . I often think what happened to these Cars and the Dealers who searched for and subsequently repatriated them . Anyway I completely digress but Oldham and Crowther were based in Peterborough I believe and one Bloke on another Forum actually turned up and had been employed there . I think he said that after a while the Business lost viability Crowther had subsequently died whilst Ruth Oldham who was a character in her own right had moved to Europe and sold Real Estate .
I do hope you or indeed anyone else have come across them , they have literally been fixed in my head all these years similar to when I saw my first E Type . Laying in Bed at night as a kid , complete with torch reading about a long abandoned XK150 being pulled from a Hedgerow in Somerset and trailered back to Oldham and Crowther was wonderful .
You can't beat a good digression biggrin
Sorry they're not a name I'd come across. I wasn't a big car nut back in the 70s, my Uncle drove Jags and they were very nice, much nicer than my father's Humber Hawk. The mother of one of my primary school friends had a very striking metallic gold/yellow 420 - very period. Once I became a teenager I was heavily into photography and another photography friend was into custom cars and back then car shows were likely to have both custom cars and classics and I remember photographing XKs while he was trying to capture flame paint jobs a bit further down the aisle at Ali Pally. This probably sewed the seeds for the XK150 later in life.
My Jaguar life didn't really start till the mid 90s when I bought an X300 back when they were the current model, I've never really seen the point of buying a new car except as a present for SWMBO, let some other bugger take the depreciation hit, although I was very tempted with buying one of the run out V12 XJS.
The XK150 didn't come until the mid noughties when I'd been looking to replace the Jag with a AM Virage only to find I didn't enjoy driving them as much as I liked the X300. While looking at Astons the misses kept being drawn to classics and then while at Runnymede to see a DB6 they had an XK150 and we were both smitten.
So sorry I can't help with Oldham and Crowther, my experience has mostly been with RGC until Chris Window was squeezed out and Peter followed a few days later. They then set up Windspeed and pretty much the whole classic customer based followed them, quelle surprise. And also with CKL, mostly before their move to modern premise.

reddiesel

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Wednesday 5th April 2023
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reddiesel

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