F Type Investment Potential In An Electric Future
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Talking with a friend last night about his F Type and its future value now that F Type Production is at an end . Historically I suppose the Sports Models have always appreciated quicker than the Saloons but even so the rises have hardly been startling and largely confined to a couple of Models . I wonder for example if the dilution of the F Type into a Sports Car for every price point will have an adverse effect , just how desirable is a 2.0 F Type or a V6S to future generations ? The elephant in the room is the banning of all new Diesel and Petrol cars by 2030 , what interest will future generations have in the ICE ? It could be a bit like trying to sell a reliable Shire Horse in the early years of the last Century , who will want it ? Personally I have always just bought what i liked and just enjoyed without any regard to future residuals or Investment potential . Judging by some of the comments on Pistonheads about the ending of F Type Production some Owners feel they are sitting on potential gold nuggets , I wish all of them well but I fear for many it will be a long and fruitless wait .
reddiesel said:
Talking with a friend last night about his F Type and its future value now that F Type Production is at an end . Historically I suppose the Sports Models have always appreciated quicker than the Saloons but even so the rises have hardly been startling and largely confined to a couple of Models . I wonder for example if the dilution of the F Type into a Sports Car for every price point will have an adverse effect , just how desirable is a 2.0 F Type or a V6S to future generations ? The elephant in the room is the banning of all new Diesel and Petrol cars by 2030 , what interest will future generations have in the ICE ? It could be a bit like trying to sell a reliable Shire Horse in the early years of the last Century , who will want it ? Personally I have always just bought what i liked and just enjoyed without any regard to future residuals or Investment potential . Judging by some of the comments on Pistonheads about the ending of F Type Production some Owners feel they are sitting on potential gold nuggets , I wish all of them well but I fear for many it will be a long and fruitless wait .
2.0L no chance. V8s rwd convertible perhaps bought at 30k they won’t drop much further. Or an XKR.
V8 vantage or 991/997/ 981 manual possibly safest places for money.
Look at the X150 and even X100 for your answer. The XJ-S has appreciated for the late 6 litre V12 coupes but you'd probably still have done better sticking the money in an ISA back in 2005 when they were £4k. Convertibles have gone nuts, but they were rocking horse poo when they were new too.
Nobody is going to want a 2.0 F-Type. A 2018 i4 300 on 34k has a CAP clean value £23,600.
2015 46k S/C 380S is £26,450 so still cheap but £3k more than the i4 that's 3 years newer with 10k less on the clock - tells you all you need to know.
Nobody is going to want a 2.0 F-Type. A 2018 i4 300 on 34k has a CAP clean value £23,600.
2015 46k S/C 380S is £26,450 so still cheap but £3k more than the i4 that's 3 years newer with 10k less on the clock - tells you all you need to know.
I have only come across at least knowingly one 2.0 litre F Type and that was in a Tescos Car Park when I was up visiting the 86 year old father in Glasgow. Up there you can go for weeks without seeing another F Type but there it was . I was sitting in the SVR with the old man next to me when he spotted it . " There's one like yours " he said pleased with his spot . I explained the difference to him then sharp as a tack he said " does it have the tweed seats "
reddiesel said:
I have only come across at least knowingly one 2.0 litre F Type and that was in a Tescos Car Park when I was up visiting the 86 year old father in Glasgow. Up there you can go for weeks without seeing another F Type but there it was . I was sitting in the SVR with the old man next to me when he spotted it . " There's one like yours " he said pleased with his spot . I explained the difference to him then sharp as a tack he said " does it have the tweed seats "
Can you imagine owning a 2 litre F Type and ending up parking next to someone in a proper one. You'd be red with shame wouldn't you, like strutting onto the beach in your tight banana hammock showing off your big package and then the socks all fall out the side craigjm said:
If it’s anything like every other Jaguar it will get down to shed levels and then gradually rise until it’s worth something decent about 30 years after they were made. I’m not sure they will ever reach decent levels though because by the time they do petrol will be £30 a gallon
You say that Craig but will electric vehicles have any impact on this ? By that time there will be a couple of generations who have never bought an ICE car but only an Electric one . reddiesel said:
craigjm said:
If it’s anything like every other Jaguar it will get down to shed levels and then gradually rise until it’s worth something decent about 30 years after they were made. I’m not sure they will ever reach decent levels though because by the time they do petrol will be £30 a gallon
You say that Craig but will electric vehicles have any impact on this ? By that time there will be a couple of generations who have never bought an ICE car but only an Electric one . I’m not convinced that anything made from 2010 onwards will really become an appreciating classic unless it’s very rare to start with or was some kind of game changer. The F -type was neither. I also think that the Jaguar image change coming from 2025 won’t help either but let’s see
Its interesting now Craig that we appear to be seeing less of these " I want an F Type " threads . Inevitably I suppose the game moves on , the trend followers move onto something else and in come the genuine Jaguar enthusiasts . I am currently awaiting a sales breakdown model by model for the F Type , does anyone have any figures ? I would imagine that 2.0 litre figures must be the lowest of all Models and V6 variants possibly the highest .
I think new cars must be tiny numbers now as it’s been around for 11 years which is far too long in automotive terms. It is a good car but it’s always been too heavy and always fallen between two stools being too big and heavy to be a Cayman competitor in it’s cheaper versions and too heavy and not practical enough to be a 911 competitor in its more expensive versions. Not sure I really understood what Jaguar were thinking positioning it like that personally. Boot space on the convertible is laughable. It should have been either a proper XK replacement with a rear seat you could actually use or go up against the Cayman / Boxster / Z4 / TT as a 2 seater in my opinion. Still I’m glad it exists because a Jaguar line up should always have some kind of GT or sports car in the range
craigjm said:
I think new cars must be tiny numbers now as it’s been around for 11 years which is far too long in automotive terms. It is a good car but it’s always been too heavy and always fallen between two stools being too big and heavy to be a Cayman competitor in it’s cheaper versions and too heavy and not practical enough to be a 911 competitor in its more expensive versions. Not sure I really understood what Jaguar were thinking positioning it like that personally. Boot space on the convertible is laughable. It should have been either a proper XK replacement with a rear seat you could actually use or go up against the Cayman / Boxster / Z4 / TT as a 2 seater in my opinion. Still I’m glad it exists because a Jaguar line up should always have some kind of GT or sports car in the range
I thought like that, however a V8s cabrio is a stonking 'old fashioned, modern classic'. Stunning soundtrack, poke and looks.Way superior to any of the 2 seaters you've mentioned. Look at it as a more characterful SL allternative or a modern day Griffith.
bennno said:
craigjm said:
I think new cars must be tiny numbers now as it’s been around for 11 years which is far too long in automotive terms. It is a good car but it’s always been too heavy and always fallen between two stools being too big and heavy to be a Cayman competitor in it’s cheaper versions and too heavy and not practical enough to be a 911 competitor in its more expensive versions. Not sure I really understood what Jaguar were thinking positioning it like that personally. Boot space on the convertible is laughable. It should have been either a proper XK replacement with a rear seat you could actually use or go up against the Cayman / Boxster / Z4 / TT as a 2 seater in my opinion. Still I’m glad it exists because a Jaguar line up should always have some kind of GT or sports car in the range
I thought like that, however a V8s cabrio is a stonking 'old fashioned, modern classic'. Stunning soundtrack, poke and looks.Way superior to any of the 2 seaters you've mentioned. Look at it as a more characterful SL allternative or a modern day Griffith.
bennno said:
reddiesel said:
V8 Cabrio , what you talking about ? Which model do you drive ?
I had a v8s , 5L supercharged rwd, why?Edited by reddiesel on Friday 21st October 15:44
I met 3 others who had similar, all ex tvr owners oddly, myself included.
Cerbera > Tamora > F Type V8S RWD…..……I just need the Supersprint exhaust and we’re there!
Pursyluv said:
Natural progression?
Cerbera > Tamora > F Type V8S RWD…..……I just need the Supersprint exhaust and we’re there!
You will enjoy that and like most current Owners future values will matter little as long as you have some wedge to get into something else when the time comes . I had a Cerbera many years back and actually had a visit to the factory . Stunned I watched them do wheel alignment with a length of 2x2 . Some previous Cerbera Owner told me years later he had witnessed the same thing, he had went to some Track Event the following weekend had the alignment checked with some Laser Bloke, it was very near spot on .Cerbera > Tamora > F Type V8S RWD…..……I just need the Supersprint exhaust and we’re there!
reddiesel said:
Talking with a friend last night about his F Type and its future value now that F Type Production is at an end . Historically I suppose the Sports Models have always appreciated quicker than the Saloons but even so the rises have hardly been startling and largely confined to a couple of Models . I wonder for example if the dilution of the F Type into a Sports Car for every price point will have an adverse effect , just how desirable is a 2.0 F Type or a V6S to future generations ? The elephant in the room is the banning of all new Diesel and Petrol cars by 2030 , what interest will future generations have in the ICE ? It could be a bit like trying to sell a reliable Shire Horse in the early years of the last Century , who will want it ? Personally I have always just bought what i liked and just enjoyed without any regard to future residuals or Investment potential . Judging by some of the comments on Pistonheads about the ending of F Type Production some Owners feel they are sitting on potential gold nuggets , I wish all of them well but I fear for many it will be a long and fruitless wait .
I've considered this logic behind the purchase of an F-Pace SVR....at least, that was one of the components in the argument I presented to Mrs Scott.I think you have to enjoy whatever you want as long as you are able . Im currently running one of the last of the normally aspirated 911 GTS . The bloke at the local Porsche Dealer reckons it will have future investment potential but I am 59 years of age next month . Time isnt exactly on my side when it comes to waiting for anything . :laugh
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