F Type Investment Potential In An Electric Future

F Type Investment Potential In An Electric Future

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reddiesel

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2,309 posts

52 months

Sunday 16th October 2022
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Talking with a friend last night about his F Type and its future value now that F Type Production is at an end . Historically I suppose the Sports Models have always appreciated quicker than the Saloons but even so the rises have hardly been startling and largely confined to a couple of Models . I wonder for example if the dilution of the F Type into a Sports Car for every price point will have an adverse effect , just how desirable is a 2.0 F Type or a V6S to future generations ? The elephant in the room is the banning of all new Diesel and Petrol cars by 2030 , what interest will future generations have in the ICE ? It could be a bit like trying to sell a reliable Shire Horse in the early years of the last Century , who will want it ? Personally I have always just bought what i liked and just enjoyed without any regard to future residuals or Investment potential . Judging by some of the comments on Pistonheads about the ending of F Type Production some Owners feel they are sitting on potential gold nuggets , I wish all of them well but I fear for many it will be a long and fruitless wait .

bennno

12,401 posts

274 months

Sunday 16th October 2022
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reddiesel said:
Talking with a friend last night about his F Type and its future value now that F Type Production is at an end . Historically I suppose the Sports Models have always appreciated quicker than the Saloons but even so the rises have hardly been startling and largely confined to a couple of Models . I wonder for example if the dilution of the F Type into a Sports Car for every price point will have an adverse effect , just how desirable is a 2.0 F Type or a V6S to future generations ? The elephant in the room is the banning of all new Diesel and Petrol cars by 2030 , what interest will future generations have in the ICE ? It could be a bit like trying to sell a reliable Shire Horse in the early years of the last Century , who will want it ? Personally I have always just bought what i liked and just enjoyed without any regard to future residuals or Investment potential . Judging by some of the comments on Pistonheads about the ending of F Type Production some Owners feel they are sitting on potential gold nuggets , I wish all of them well but I fear for many it will be a long and fruitless wait .
2.0L no chance.

V8s rwd convertible perhaps bought at 30k they won’t drop much further. Or an XKR.

V8 vantage or 991/997/ 981 manual possibly safest places for money.

anonymous-user

59 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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Look at the X150 and even X100 for your answer. The XJ-S has appreciated for the late 6 litre V12 coupes but you'd probably still have done better sticking the money in an ISA back in 2005 when they were £4k. Convertibles have gone nuts, but they were rocking horse poo when they were new too.

Nobody is going to want a 2.0 F-Type. A 2018 i4 300 on 34k has a CAP clean value £23,600.

2015 46k S/C 380S is £26,450 so still cheap but £3k more than the i4 that's 3 years newer with 10k less on the clock - tells you all you need to know.

reddiesel

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52 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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I have only come across at least knowingly one 2.0 litre F Type and that was in a Tescos Car Park when I was up visiting the 86 year old father in Glasgow. Up there you can go for weeks without seeing another F Type but there it was . I was sitting in the SVR with the old man next to me when he spotted it . " There's one like yours " he said pleased with his spot . I explained the difference to him then sharp as a tack he said " does it have the tweed seats " laugh

anonymous-user

59 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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reddiesel said:
I have only come across at least knowingly one 2.0 litre F Type and that was in a Tescos Car Park when I was up visiting the 86 year old father in Glasgow. Up there you can go for weeks without seeing another F Type but there it was . I was sitting in the SVR with the old man next to me when he spotted it . " There's one like yours " he said pleased with his spot . I explained the difference to him then sharp as a tack he said " does it have the tweed seats " laugh
Can you imagine owning a 2 litre F Type and ending up parking next to someone in a proper one. You'd be red with shame wouldn't you, like strutting onto the beach in your tight banana hammock showing off your big package and then the socks all fall out the side rofl

craigjm

18,360 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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If it’s anything like every other Jaguar it will get down to shed levels and then gradually rise until it’s worth something decent about 30 years after they were made. I’m not sure they will ever reach decent levels though because by the time they do petrol will be £30 a gallon

reddiesel

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Thursday 20th October 2022
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craigjm said:
If it’s anything like every other Jaguar it will get down to shed levels and then gradually rise until it’s worth something decent about 30 years after they were made. I’m not sure they will ever reach decent levels though because by the time they do petrol will be £30 a gallon
You say that Craig but will electric vehicles have any impact on this ? By that time there will be a couple of generations who have never bought an ICE car but only an Electric one .

craigjm

18,360 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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reddiesel said:
craigjm said:
If it’s anything like every other Jaguar it will get down to shed levels and then gradually rise until it’s worth something decent about 30 years after they were made. I’m not sure they will ever reach decent levels though because by the time they do petrol will be £30 a gallon
You say that Craig but will electric vehicles have any impact on this ? By that time there will be a couple of generations who have never bought an ICE car but only an Electric one .
That’s kind of my point. There are people learning to drive now who will only ever really know electric and probably everyone learning by 2030. Will they want an ICE car? Many young people these days already see them as unnecessary. I think once the generation that is 50 plus now is retiring from driving the whole market for “classic ice” will shrink and will only accelerate more as petrol becomes more expensive and harder to find but electric is at every parking space in towns and cities.

I’m not convinced that anything made from 2010 onwards will really become an appreciating classic unless it’s very rare to start with or was some kind of game changer. The F -type was neither. I also think that the Jaguar image change coming from 2025 won’t help either but let’s see

reddiesel

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Friday 21st October 2022
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Its interesting now Craig that we appear to be seeing less of these " I want an F Type " threads . Inevitably I suppose the game moves on , the trend followers move onto something else and in come the genuine Jaguar enthusiasts . I am currently awaiting a sales breakdown model by model for the F Type , does anyone have any figures ? I would imagine that 2.0 litre figures must be the lowest of all Models and V6 variants possibly the highest .

craigjm

18,360 posts

205 months

Friday 21st October 2022
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I think new cars must be tiny numbers now as it’s been around for 11 years which is far too long in automotive terms. It is a good car but it’s always been too heavy and always fallen between two stools being too big and heavy to be a Cayman competitor in it’s cheaper versions and too heavy and not practical enough to be a 911 competitor in its more expensive versions. Not sure I really understood what Jaguar were thinking positioning it like that personally. Boot space on the convertible is laughable. It should have been either a proper XK replacement with a rear seat you could actually use or go up against the Cayman / Boxster / Z4 / TT as a 2 seater in my opinion. Still I’m glad it exists because a Jaguar line up should always have some kind of GT or sports car in the range

bennno

12,401 posts

274 months

Friday 21st October 2022
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craigjm said:
I think new cars must be tiny numbers now as it’s been around for 11 years which is far too long in automotive terms. It is a good car but it’s always been too heavy and always fallen between two stools being too big and heavy to be a Cayman competitor in it’s cheaper versions and too heavy and not practical enough to be a 911 competitor in its more expensive versions. Not sure I really understood what Jaguar were thinking positioning it like that personally. Boot space on the convertible is laughable. It should have been either a proper XK replacement with a rear seat you could actually use or go up against the Cayman / Boxster / Z4 / TT as a 2 seater in my opinion. Still I’m glad it exists because a Jaguar line up should always have some kind of GT or sports car in the range
I thought like that, however a V8s cabrio is a stonking 'old fashioned, modern classic'. Stunning soundtrack, poke and looks.

Way superior to any of the 2 seaters you've mentioned. Look at it as a more characterful SL allternative or a modern day Griffith.

reddiesel

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Friday 21st October 2022
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V8 Cabrio , what you talking about ? Which model do you drive ?

Edited by reddiesel on Friday 21st October 15:44

craigjm

18,360 posts

205 months

Friday 21st October 2022
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bennno said:
craigjm said:
I think new cars must be tiny numbers now as it’s been around for 11 years which is far too long in automotive terms. It is a good car but it’s always been too heavy and always fallen between two stools being too big and heavy to be a Cayman competitor in it’s cheaper versions and too heavy and not practical enough to be a 911 competitor in its more expensive versions. Not sure I really understood what Jaguar were thinking positioning it like that personally. Boot space on the convertible is laughable. It should have been either a proper XK replacement with a rear seat you could actually use or go up against the Cayman / Boxster / Z4 / TT as a 2 seater in my opinion. Still I’m glad it exists because a Jaguar line up should always have some kind of GT or sports car in the range
I thought like that, however a V8s cabrio is a stonking 'old fashioned, modern classic'. Stunning soundtrack, poke and looks.

Way superior to any of the 2 seaters you've mentioned. Look at it as a more characterful SL allternative or a modern day Griffith.
My point is that it’s kind of in a world of its own in its market placement. It’s too far upmarket for the cayman boxster and not GT enough to worry the 911.

bennno

12,401 posts

274 months

Friday 21st October 2022
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reddiesel said:
V8 Cabrio , what you talking about ? Which model do you drive ?

Edited by reddiesel on Friday 21st October 15:44
I had a v8s , 5L supercharged rwd, why?

I met 3 others who had similar, all ex tvr owners oddly, myself included.

Pursyluv

1,936 posts

179 months

Friday 21st October 2022
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bennno said:
reddiesel said:
V8 Cabrio , what you talking about ? Which model do you drive ?

Edited by reddiesel on Friday 21st October 15:44
I had a v8s , 5L supercharged rwd, why?

I met 3 others who had similar, all ex tvr owners oddly, myself included.
Natural progression?
Cerbera > Tamora > F Type V8S RWD…..……I just need the Supersprint exhaust and we’re there!

reddiesel

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Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Pursyluv said:
Natural progression?
Cerbera > Tamora > F Type V8S RWD…..……I just need the Supersprint exhaust and we’re there!
You will enjoy that and like most current Owners future values will matter little as long as you have some wedge to get into something else when the time comes . I had a Cerbera many years back and actually had a visit to the factory . Stunned I watched them do wheel alignment with a length of 2x2 . Some previous Cerbera Owner told me years later he had witnessed the same thing, he had went to some Track Event the following weekend had the alignment checked with some Laser Bloke, it was very near spot on .

Julian Scott

3,176 posts

29 months

Wednesday 26th October 2022
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reddiesel said:
Talking with a friend last night about his F Type and its future value now that F Type Production is at an end . Historically I suppose the Sports Models have always appreciated quicker than the Saloons but even so the rises have hardly been startling and largely confined to a couple of Models . I wonder for example if the dilution of the F Type into a Sports Car for every price point will have an adverse effect , just how desirable is a 2.0 F Type or a V6S to future generations ? The elephant in the room is the banning of all new Diesel and Petrol cars by 2030 , what interest will future generations have in the ICE ? It could be a bit like trying to sell a reliable Shire Horse in the early years of the last Century , who will want it ? Personally I have always just bought what i liked and just enjoyed without any regard to future residuals or Investment potential . Judging by some of the comments on Pistonheads about the ending of F Type Production some Owners feel they are sitting on potential gold nuggets , I wish all of them well but I fear for many it will be a long and fruitless wait .
I've considered this logic behind the purchase of an F-Pace SVR....at least, that was one of the components in the argument I presented to Mrs Scott.

reddiesel

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Wednesday 26th October 2022
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I think you have to enjoy whatever you want as long as you are able . Im currently running one of the last of the normally aspirated 911 GTS . The bloke at the local Porsche Dealer reckons it will have future investment potential but I am 59 years of age next month . Time isnt exactly on my side when it comes to waiting for anything . :laugh