X100 color change
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I am in the market for a late X100 XKR convertible.
Ideally BRG ….but they are hard to find and prefer the non metallic old school BRG… Rather than waiting for that white (green) elephant to arrive…. Would it not be better to go for a nice car in any color and have it resprayed in bespoke old school BRG (or even Sherwood). Worth doing or ruins any change of collectible value (even if it would be done well)?
Ideally BRG ….but they are hard to find and prefer the non metallic old school BRG… Rather than waiting for that white (green) elephant to arrive…. Would it not be better to go for a nice car in any color and have it resprayed in bespoke old school BRG (or even Sherwood). Worth doing or ruins any change of collectible value (even if it would be done well)?
Can’t answer specifically for the XKR but colour change is easily done if you aren’t bothered about the sngine bay.
To do it properly it’s windows out, doors & boot lid off and paint the shuts.
The engine bay & tunnel would require the engine & transmission out.
If you start with a black or dark grey car it won’t be noticed if the insides of the engine bay or underside doesn’t match.
To do it properly it’s windows out, doors & boot lid off and paint the shuts.
The engine bay & tunnel would require the engine & transmission out.
If you start with a black or dark grey car it won’t be noticed if the insides of the engine bay or underside doesn’t match.
Stick Legs said:
Can’t answer specifically for the XKR but colour change is easily done if you aren’t bothered about the sngine bay.
To do it properly it’s windows out, doors & boot lid off and paint the shuts.
The engine bay & tunnel would require the engine & transmission out.
Plus remove lights, locks, badges, seals, window rubbers, trims. door panels -and if you want the engine bay done properly it's not just the engine and box - it's all the ancillaries, pipework, possibly wiring loom...To do it properly it’s windows out, doors & boot lid off and paint the shuts.
The engine bay & tunnel would require the engine & transmission out.
silentbrown said:
Stick Legs said:
Can’t answer specifically for the XKR but colour change is easily done if you aren’t bothered about the sngine bay.
To do it properly it’s windows out, doors & boot lid off and paint the shuts.
The engine bay & tunnel would require the engine & transmission out.
Plus remove lights, locks, badges, seals, window rubbers, trims. door panels -and if you want the engine bay done properly it's not just the engine and box - it's all the ancillaries, pipework, possibly wiring loom...To do it properly it’s windows out, doors & boot lid off and paint the shuts.
The engine bay & tunnel would require the engine & transmission out.
I glossed over the process (pun intended) but to do a full colour change perfectly would require a completely bare shell and is not really realistic.
For what the OP is after, a black car, all easily removed trim out. Mask inside the bonnet shut lines so everything inside the engine bay stays black & paint the returns will be more reasonable and won’t look odd even with the bonnet up if done right.
AudiUrquattro said:
I am in the market for a late X100 XKR convertible.
Ideally BRG ….but they are hard to find and prefer the non metallic old school BRG… Rather than waiting for that white (green) elephant to arrive…. Would it not be better to go for a nice car in any color and have it resprayed in bespoke old school BRG (or even Sherwood). Worth doing or ruins any change of collectible value (even if it would be done well)?
How long do you plan to keep? i.e. will it be a desirable valuable collectable by the time you want to sell? And if it is. Would it matter that you'd maybe get a slightly different price?Ideally BRG ….but they are hard to find and prefer the non metallic old school BRG… Rather than waiting for that white (green) elephant to arrive…. Would it not be better to go for a nice car in any color and have it resprayed in bespoke old school BRG (or even Sherwood). Worth doing or ruins any change of collectible value (even if it would be done well)?
That all said, a full respray is unlikely to be cheap as a colour change. Easy £5-10k I'd have thought.
300bhp/ton said:
How long do you plan to keep? i.e. will it be a desirable valuable collectable by the time you want to sell? And if it is. Would it matter that you'd maybe get a slightly different price?
That all said, a full respray is unlikely to be cheap as a colour change. Easy £5-10k I'd have thought.
It’s an old Jag.That all said, a full respray is unlikely to be cheap as a colour change. Easy £5-10k I'd have thought.
They are worth what? £10k?
Chuck £5k at it to make it your ideal car.
Still worth £10k.
For every beard who wants it original there’s another who would be delighted by new paint & no rust in the rear arches.
I prefer spending 10/15 +5 kGBP on my “perfect” XKR than e.g. 20kGBP on an OK ish DB7… but that is a whole different discussion
Old cars like these - a bit like watches - are more a folly than a justifiable money decision.
With a bit of chance (like watches!) the “market” might decide going forward that they like the car and give you a half decent return…. and if not one will just enjoy using it (with the bespoke colour )
Thank you all for the technical advice (but black)
Old cars like these - a bit like watches - are more a folly than a justifiable money decision.
With a bit of chance (like watches!) the “market” might decide going forward that they like the car and give you a half decent return…. and if not one will just enjoy using it (with the bespoke colour )
Thank you all for the technical advice (but black)
AudiUrquattro said:
I prefer spending 10/15 +5 kGBP on my “perfect” XKR than e.g. 20kGBP on an OK ish DB7… but that is a whole different discussion
Old cars like these - a bit like watches - are more a folly than a justifiable money decision.
With a bit of chance (like watches!) the “market” might decide going forward that they like the car and give you a half decent return…. and if not one will just enjoy using it (with the bespoke colour )
Thank you all for the technical advice (but black)
Ultimately you spend your money and make your choice but £10k to £15k wont buy a perfect X100 XKR in any colour . Financial returns on any Jaguar have been paltry to say the least so if its Investment potential you want , stick to the Rolex . The X100 also suffers from the dreaded Box Sections which can mean big bills on account of corrosion . Have you considered the X150 ? Not far off the same money its a much better design and a vastly improved driving experience , in my opinion better than any DB7 or DB9 and I have owned both . Because of the X150 method and material of construction its also a far better second hand buy . I wouldn't repaint any second hand Jaguar in a different colour . Its financial suicide if you are doing it correctly with glass removal etc and a potential problem come resale time as customers for these sort of cars value originality above all other things .Old cars like these - a bit like watches - are more a folly than a justifiable money decision.
With a bit of chance (like watches!) the “market” might decide going forward that they like the car and give you a half decent return…. and if not one will just enjoy using it (with the bespoke colour )
Thank you all for the technical advice (but black)
Edited by reddiesel on Friday 15th April 08:26
reddiesel is so right. I have both a lovely X100 (Carnival Red) and an X150 (Liquid silver). I've had the X150 for nine years now, and I haven't driven the X100 more than a half dozen times during those 9 years. The X150 5L cars are so vastly superior in every driving aspect that I just can't drive the X100 any longer. I haven't sold it even though it's in nearly perfect condition, because pre Covid it was probably only worth about $5000 in the US, and I don't need $5000 that badly. I still enjoy looking at it and realizing its heritage but I'm tired of the excessive cowl shake of the convertible as opposed to the incredible ride of the X150 platform and a 600hp (pulleyed and tuned) engine. I understand the lure of the beauty and classicism of the X100, after all, I bought one and put 175,000 miles on her. But even on the way home from purchasing it, I was disturbed by the amount of shaking. My
X150 now has 200,000 miles on her and is still a great pleasure. And finally, I think you're underestimating the cost of a decent quality paint job. Here in the states you're looking at about $10,000 to get any kind of quality. Good luck with your decision.
X150 now has 200,000 miles on her and is still a great pleasure. And finally, I think you're underestimating the cost of a decent quality paint job. Here in the states you're looking at about $10,000 to get any kind of quality. Good luck with your decision.
There‘s some good guidance above on all topics and depends on what you are solving for.
If you are hell bent on an X100 I suggest just buying the best one out there for your budget, get it thoroughly checked out (especially all the rust points) and go from there.
I am sure they are all rotten to some degree it just depends how much / how bad. If you find one that doesn‘t need major body work (which could anyway neccesitate a respray) just get it wrapped.
As for future value, I would just treat it as pleasant upside if it did occur, certainly not a decidng factor right now.
My XKR to Tokyo thread shows just how much work can be required. I thought addressing the cosmetically crap exterior was going to be the main cost, I was wrong, it was all the hidden rot in the usual XK places, so much so in fact that a total respray was not an an obvious but essential step. To put it in context a used X150 would have been cheaper but that was not my objective.
Best of luck whatever you choose!
If you are hell bent on an X100 I suggest just buying the best one out there for your budget, get it thoroughly checked out (especially all the rust points) and go from there.
I am sure they are all rotten to some degree it just depends how much / how bad. If you find one that doesn‘t need major body work (which could anyway neccesitate a respray) just get it wrapped.
As for future value, I would just treat it as pleasant upside if it did occur, certainly not a decidng factor right now.
My XKR to Tokyo thread shows just how much work can be required. I thought addressing the cosmetically crap exterior was going to be the main cost, I was wrong, it was all the hidden rot in the usual XK places, so much so in fact that a total respray was not an an obvious but essential step. To put it in context a used X150 would have been cheaper but that was not my objective.
Best of luck whatever you choose!
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