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I came across this earlier this evening and didn't know what to make of it . Advertised as an Automatic but apparently with a manual gear change ???? Anyone have any thoughts ? I never knew that such a machine existed , in fact its been years since I last encountered a manual XJ and thinking about it I believe it was an early XJS .
I came across this earlier this evening and didn't know what to make of it . Advertised as an Automatic but apparently with a manual gear change ???? Anyone have any thoughts ? I never knew that such a machine existed , in fact its been years since I last encountered a manual XJ and thinking about it I believe it was an early XJS .
That's lovely.... really lovely. 51K for 11k and a manual!! The manual looks like its been there from day one, I knew they did make some manuals but don't know how many, if original that's fairly rare and will probably only increase in value. I never forget how surprised I was how how much better built and solid the X300 felt after a Series III. Although not the R, our 4.0 litre sport was a great car.
Edited by V12 Migaloo on Friday 21st January 10:47
lufbramatt said:
Says “library photos “ so might not be pics of actual car, just one the same colour?
^^^^ This.Everything else in the description says that it's an automatic.
But as mentioned before, there were plenty of manual-gearbox cars built.
Always a great option on the XJ, they were even on the Series 3 XJ6, but nobody wanted them. Even as far back as the 1950s Jaguar realised that their customer demographic expected an automatic gearbox. But they did continue with manual gearboxes longer than a lot of other luxury car manufacturers.
Now, imagine the Jensen Interceptor with a factory manual gearbox? Wow! And yes, there were a handful made!
Sebring440 said:
...they were even on the Series 3 XJ6, but nobody wanted them.
No surprise there. My S3 was a manual and the gearbox was absolutely dire. The S3 had the Rover 5 speed box rather than the earlier 4 speed + overdrive one fitted to manual S1 and 2s and the gear change action was baulky and slow until the oil was up to temperature.
Sebring440 said:
...they were even on the Series 3 XJ6, but nobody wanted them.
No surprise there. My S3 was a manual and the gearbox was absolutely dire. The S3 had the Rover 5 speed box rather than the earlier 4 speed + overdrive one fitted to manual S1 and 2s and the gear change action was baulky and slow until the oil was up to temperature.
Jaguar steve said:
No surprise there.
My S3 was a manual and the gearbox was absolutely dire. The S3 had the Rover 5 speed box rather than the earlier 4 speed + overdrive one fitted to manual S1 and 2s and the gear change action was baulky and slow until the oil was up to temperature.
The trade certainly didn't like any XJ in manual form nor in white and of course valued them accordingly . That woeful tweed fabric was another negative . The Series 3 completely passed me by thought it seemed that several years back XJ12 variants were for sale everywhere and at reasonable money .My S3 was a manual and the gearbox was absolutely dire. The S3 had the Rover 5 speed box rather than the earlier 4 speed + overdrive one fitted to manual S1 and 2s and the gear change action was baulky and slow until the oil was up to temperature.
For me the XJR was a game changer and ive been trying to inquire if this manual XJR does actually exist to go and view . No bloody answer to the phone so I shall try again shortly .
Sebring440 said:
lufbramatt said:
Says “library photos “ so might not be pics of actual car, just one the same colour?
^^^^ This.Everything else in the description says that it's an automatic.
reddiesel said:
Jaguar steve said:
No surprise there.
My S3 was a manual and the gearbox was absolutely dire. The S3 had the Rover 5 speed box rather than the earlier 4 speed + overdrive one fitted to manual S1 and 2s and the gear change action was baulky and slow until the oil was up to temperature.
The trade certainly didn't like any XJ in manual form nor in white and of course valued them accordingly . That woeful tweed fabric was another negative . The Series 3 completely passed me by thought it seemed that several years back XJ12 variants were for sale everywhere and at reasonable money .My S3 was a manual and the gearbox was absolutely dire. The S3 had the Rover 5 speed box rather than the earlier 4 speed + overdrive one fitted to manual S1 and 2s and the gear change action was baulky and slow until the oil was up to temperature.
For me the XJR was a game changer and ive been trying to inquire if this manual XJR does actually exist to go and view . No bloody answer to the phone so I shall try again shortly .
These were 4 litre Sports rather than XJRs.If you look back on this forum you'll find a few threads about manual X300 XJRs (or actually X306).
These seems to be examples of cars which weren't that popular new or nearly new but have become much more desirable later in their lives.
Edited by a8hex on Sunday 23 January 17:23
Edited by a8hex on Sunday 23 January 20:16
I think we can safely assume that the car pictured is indeed a library image . Three times ive called only to be met with the same recorded message which began my next question " does this bloke actually want to sell cars " ?
I have probably answered the question to my earlier thread " anyone bought a Japanese Import " ? Yes , but we cant reach the bloke
I have probably answered the question to my earlier thread " anyone bought a Japanese Import " ? Yes , but we cant reach the bloke
reddiesel said:
That woeful tweed fabric was another negative . The Series 3 completely passed me by thought it seemed that several years back XJ12 variants were for sale everywhere and at reasonable money .
Funny you mention tweed, one time when we had the V12 serviced by Guy Salmon in Brooklands, the loaner was a 4.2 manual with tweed interior, have to say I liked it a lot, certainly didn't feel poverty spec. I was surprised at the urgency of the acceleration, but this was probably due to the weight saving over the V12.I think the X300 was a massive improvement, certainly you didn't feel short changed stepping out of a 7 series in to one of these (back in the day..)
I had an XJR of that era back in the day. Really wanted a manual initially as I was swapping out a Tiptronic 911 which really was awful but after a test drive came to the conclusion that it really didn't suit the car. So ended up with an auto.
It's a sporting limo and whilst it did do the sporting bit very well it was still a limo.
It's a sporting limo and whilst it did do the sporting bit very well it was still a limo.
V12 Migaloo said:
I think the X300 was a massive improvement, certainly you didn't feel short changed stepping out of a 7 series in to one of these (back in the day..)
A friend back then had a 735, it was an E38 so introduced at roughly the same time, although in 3.5L form it was a newer car. I much preferred the Jag, it rode and handled much better. The gear box was about the only thing the BMW had in its favour. My X300 is a 3.2 Sport so has the non electronic gearbox. What really surprised me was how much quicker the Jag was given the extra power of the BMW V8. Later on I worked for a guy with a 740 and acceleration wise that and the X300 were incredibly closely matched. V12 Migaloo said:
Funny you mention tweed, one time when we had the V12 serviced by Guy Salmon in Brooklands, the loaner was a 4.2 manual with tweed interior, have to say I liked it a lot, certainly didn't feel poverty spec. I was surprised at the urgency of the acceleration, but this was probably due to the weight saving over the V12.
I think the X300 was a massive improvement, certainly you didn't feel short changed stepping out of a 7 series in to one of these (back in the day..)
Just out of interest have you ever come across an Ambla interior ? Fitted to Jaguars prior to the XJ Series1 as an alternative to Leather I believe? I have never managed to come across one though I have saw the Henlys Box a few times . I believe it was fitted to the Mk2 2.4 and the 3.4 as part of a cost cutting exercise where the front spotlights were also replaced with vents . I think the X300 was a massive improvement, certainly you didn't feel short changed stepping out of a 7 series in to one of these (back in the day..)
Edited by reddiesel on Monday 24th January 19:31
reddiesel said:
Just out of interest have you ever come across an Ambla interior ? Fitted to Jaguars prior to the XJ Series1 as an alternative to Leather I believe? I have never managed to come across one though I have saw the Henlys Box a few times . I believe it was fitted to the Mk2 2.4 and the 3.4 as part of a cost cutting exercise where the front spotlights were also replaced with vents .
The only time I saw Ambla was when wheeler dealers picked up a good condition leather interior for that mark 2 they did, I think the vendor said it was Ambla and it was so obvious that is wasn't leather... so apart from that no, not physicallyEdited by reddiesel on Monday 24th January 19:31
V12 Migaloo said:
The only time I saw Ambla was when wheeler dealers picked up a good condition leather interior for that mark 2 they did, I think the vendor said it was Ambla and it was so obvious that is wasn't leather... so apart from that no, not physically
Thanks for that , I had always wondered just how obvious the difference was when compared with the Leather .Gassing Station | Jaguar | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff