A Tyre Dilemma
Discussion
I just got the news over the weekend that the 83 year old Father up in Glasgow has been admitted to Hospital with both Kidneys blocked so I shall have to make the trip up there on Friday . Having been alerted to wear on one of the rear Pirelli P Zeros when the F Type was last in for Service , I checked just on the off chance this morning and of course it was completely bald . I was wanting to dump all four Pirellis for a set of Michelins but the rest of my Tyres are near new so reluctantly I have decided to just renew the worn item at a cost of £260 . I realise that People go on about the limitations of the P Zeros but thats almost £800 of nearly new Tyres being thrown in the bin and I just couldn't do it , when you dont Lease a car its " real " money after all
Simpo Two said:
I'm surprised you'd let a tyre go completely bald, that's just asking for trouble. You don't need to change all four, just change both on the axle.
If money is tight you don't need Pirellis; there are plenty of other brands that will be just fine. Hope your dad is OK.
Completely bald as in worn past the tread bar indicators . Its not that money is tight , its that I cant see any point in junking three good tyres just to switch to Michelins . Age does this to you Simpo .If money is tight you don't need Pirellis; there are plenty of other brands that will be just fine. Hope your dad is OK.
Unsure what the AWD f-type guidelines are, but a previous Audi A4 Quattro I had recommended max 1mm difference on an axle and 3mm difference front to back. But in any case, the p-zeros are awful tyres. 8k was what I got on the back of my last car - XFR-S, and rarely went in a straight line in the wet. Changed to MPS4S and that mileage rose to 22k.
I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
Edited by fatboy b on Tuesday 21st December 06:38
fatboy b said:
Unsure what the AWD f-type guidelines are, but a previous Audi A4 Quattro I had recommended max 1mm difference on an axle and 3mm difference front to back. But in any case, the p-zeros are awful tyres. 8k was what I got on the back of my last car - XFR-S, and rarely went in a straight line in the wet. Changed to MPS4S and that mileage rose to 22k.
I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
I believe the Haldex system is fussy about tyre wear and can lead to premature wear of the system. Full (constant) 4 wheel drive isn't fussy at all.I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
Edited by fatboy b on Tuesday 21st December 06:38
fatboy b said:
Unsure what the AWD f-type guidelines are, but a previous Audi A4 Quattro I had recommended max 1mm difference on an axle and 3mm difference front to back. But in any case, the p-zeros are awful tyres. 8k was what I got on the back of my last car - XFR-S, and rarely went in a straight line in the wet. Changed to MPS4S and that mileage rose to 22k.
I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
If I keep the Car in the coming year I will definitely switch them for something else , you're right about the traction in the wet .I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
Edited by fatboy b on Tuesday 21st December 06:38
mickyh7 said:
fatboy b said:
Unsure what the AWD f-type guidelines are, but a previous Audi A4 Quattro I had recommended max 1mm difference on an axle and 3mm difference front to back. But in any case, the p-zeros are awful tyres. 8k was what I got on the back of my last car - XFR-S, and rarely went in a straight line in the wet. Changed to MPS4S and that mileage rose to 22k.
I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
I believe the Haldex system is fussy about tyre wear and can lead to premature wear of the system. Full (constant) 4 wheel drive isn't fussy at all.I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
Edited by fatboy b on Tuesday 21st December 06:38
reddiesel said:
fatboy b said:
Unsure what the AWD f-type guidelines are, but a previous Audi A4 Quattro I had recommended max 1mm difference on an axle and 3mm difference front to back. But in any case, the p-zeros are awful tyres. 8k was what I got on the back of my last car - XFR-S, and rarely went in a straight line in the wet. Changed to MPS4S and that mileage rose to 22k.
I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
If I keep the Car in the coming year I will definitely switch them for something else , you're right about the traction in the wet .I was lucky on the f-type as the dealer paid to replace all 4 tyres as the rears were on 3.8mm and the fronts were odd p-zeros. One Jag and one Audi fitment.
Edited by fatboy b on Tuesday 21st December 06:38
My JCW is on p-zeros, and it is pretty crazy atm. The Jag is sublime in the same conditions.
reddiesel said:
Completely bald as in worn past the tread bar indicators . Its not that money is tight , its that I cant see any point in junking three good tyres just to switch to Michelins . Age does this to you Simpo .
Not so much age as prudence really. I would buy two new tyres and try the part-worn one on eBay.I think I put Falkens on the front of mine. Seemed to work perfectly well! The dealer had put 'happy shopper' tyres on the back when I bought it - £50 each! - but they worked too, and lasted 30,000 miles.
Simpo Two said:
Not so much age as prudence really. I would buy two new tyres and try the part-worn one on eBay.
I think I put Falkens on the front of mine. Seemed to work perfectly well! The dealer had put 'happy shopper' tyres on the back when I bought it - £50 each! - but they worked too, and lasted 30,000 miles.
Funny you mention Falken , they transform the ride in the X350 over broken surfaces , again the X350 came with Pirellis as standard fitment . What Model are you currently running with Falkens ?I think I put Falkens on the front of mine. Seemed to work perfectly well! The dealer had put 'happy shopper' tyres on the back when I bought it - £50 each! - but they worked too, and lasted 30,000 miles.
mickyh7 said:
The F Type uses an electronically controlled, all wheel drive system. Most power going to the rear.
When the car senses wheel spin, it transfers power elsewhere.
This system is commonly known as 'Haldex'
Jaguar may call it something else?
I suspect you are right about the Haldex Micky , from memory a Swedish Company who license the Technology to other manufacturers who modify it to their own needs . I suppose we are lucky its not a Lucas System else we would be stranded somewhere on the M6When the car senses wheel spin, it transfers power elsewhere.
This system is commonly known as 'Haldex'
Jaguar may call it something else?
reddiesel said:
Funny you mention Falken , they transform the ride in the X350 over broken surfaces , again the X350 came with Pirellis as standard fitment . What Model are you currently running with Falkens ?
None, the Aston came with Bridgestones which are in good condition so they'll be staying on for the foreseeable future..mickyh7 said:
fatboy b said:
Wasn’t Haldex.
The F Type uses an electronically controlled, all wheel drive system. Most power going to the rear.When the car senses wheel spin, it transfers power elsewhere.
This system is commonly known as 'Haldex'
Jaguar may call it something else?
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