F Type 3.0 V6 (S)

F Type 3.0 V6 (S)

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simon-54xeq

Original Poster:

1 posts

42 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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Hi, im thinking about buying an F type, 3.0l coupe V6. Just wondering, is there a spec difference between 3.0 v6 and 3.0v6 s ?
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fatboy b

9,563 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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The non-S is 340ps. The S is 380ps. There’s also a few 400ps cars about.

esso

1,849 posts

222 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Don't mess about.... get the V8.

fatboy b

9,563 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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esso said:
Don't mess about.... get the V8.
Exactly. Getting mine on Wednesday and replacing the XFR-S.

Ikemi

8,472 posts

210 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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The ‘S’ has 40BHP extra, a limited slip differential, adaptive suspension, active exhaust and a few nice-to-have options such as a larger front brake disc etc.

However that said, options do vary considerably from car to car and even though the active exhaust was standard on the ‘S’, the switchable exhaust option was not standard. Make a list of features that are non-negotiable and go from there ...

For me, I wanted a V6S convertible in IRR with performance heated seats, front/rear parking sensors and switchable exhaust. I eventually found a car with pretty much every option included! hehe

I’d personally - and did - go for the V6S. The howl from the engine and the subtle whine from the supercharger is addictive! You should try the V8 too. There are advantages and disadvantages with choosing V6/V8 and owners of each with lax lyrical that one engine is better than the other ...

Non-bias view: V6 howls, V8 roars. V6 has plenty of power for UK roads and nicely balanced. V8 has that punch and is quicker to 60mph, but will eat tyres and can be difficult to control. AWD is preferred with higher power levels. V6 can max out at 450BHP. V8 can reach 600BHP and beyond.

I’m actually thinking of selling mine for an Aston Martin V8.


fatboy b

9,563 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Ikemi said:
The ‘S’ has 40BHP extra, a limited slip differential, adaptive suspension, active exhaust and a few nice-to-have options such as a larger front brake disc etc.

However that said, options do vary considerably from car to car and even though the active exhaust was standard on the ‘S’, the switchable exhaust option was not standard. Make a list of features that are non-negotiable and go from there ...

For me, I wanted a V6S convertible in IRR with performance heated seats, front/rear parking sensors and switchable exhaust. I eventually found a car with pretty much every option included! hehe

I’d personally - and did - go for the V6S. The howl from the engine and the subtle whine from the supercharger is addictive! You should try the V8 too. There are advantages and disadvantages with choosing V6/V8 and owners of each with lax lyrical that one engine is better than the other ...

Non-bias view: V6 howls, V8 roars. V6 has plenty of power for UK roads and nicely balanced. V8 has that punch and is quicker to 60mph, but will eat tyres and can be difficult to control. AWD is preferred with higher power levels. V6 can max out at 450BHP. V8 can reach 600BHP and beyond.

I’m actually thinking of selling mine for an Aston Martin V8.
Difficult to control?? On crappy p-zero tyres probably. Not on MPS4S.

I’m picking up an AWD R tomorrow on p-zeros. I’m not looking forward to going back to them after 3 years of Michelin PS4S on the XFR-S.

Chamon_Lee

3,858 posts

152 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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esso said:
Don't mess about.... get the V8.
Never understand why people do this, it’s a silly remark. I am sure many if they could get the v8 R they would; it’s human nature. Sure some would still prefer the v6 over the v8 but overall everyone would want the level up. I’m sure if it was a realistic option they would have posted asking about it!

In saying that OP honestly the v6 is a brilliant car and brilliant engine. As a few other posters have said it comes down to what options you really want and go from there. I would stay away from the base v6 if budget allows it.


SweptVolume

1,101 posts

98 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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I'd have thought the single most compelling reason to go for the S is the limited slip differential. My XK 5.0 has the same power (albeit more torque) as the F Type V6 S but an open diff, and it can spin up the inside wheel at even modest throttle openings in colder conditions, despite having MP4S tyres.

8bit

4,960 posts

160 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Ikemi said:
The ‘S’ has 40BHP extra, a limited slip differential, adaptive suspension, active exhaust and a few nice-to-have options such as a larger front brake disc etc.
Is it a proper, mechanical LSD or an e-diff like my 5.0 XKR has? If it's a LSD then do the V8 F-types not get that as well?

Ikemi

8,472 posts

210 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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fatboy b said:
Ikemi said:
The ‘S’ has 40BHP extra, a limited slip differential, adaptive suspension, active exhaust and a few nice-to-have options such as a larger front brake disc etc.

However that said, options do vary considerably from car to car and even though the active exhaust was standard on the ‘S’, the switchable exhaust option was not standard. Make a list of features that are non-negotiable and go from there ...

For me, I wanted a V6S convertible in IRR with performance heated seats, front/rear parking sensors and switchable exhaust. I eventually found a car with pretty much every option included! hehe

I’d personally - and did - go for the V6S. The howl from the engine and the subtle whine from the supercharger is addictive! You should try the V8 too. There are advantages and disadvantages with choosing V6/V8 and owners of each with lax lyrical that one engine is better than the other ...

Non-bias view: V6 howls, V8 roars. V6 has plenty of power for UK roads and nicely balanced. V8 has that punch and is quicker to 60mph, but will eat tyres and can be difficult to control. AWD is preferred with higher power levels. V6 can max out at 450BHP. V8 can reach 600BHP and beyond.

I’m actually thinking of selling mine for an Aston Martin V8.
Difficult to control?? On crappy p-zero tyres probably. Not on MPS4S.

I’m picking up an AWD R tomorrow on p-zeros. I’m not looking forward to going back to them after 3 years of Michelin PS4S on the XFR-S.
This depends on your experience, as well as conditions. In general, it is suggested that the RWD V8 eats tyres and can be difficult to control. AWD is preferred with higher power levels. AWD seems a bit pointless for the V6 models. I have PS4S tyres on mine, but never had any scary moments with my V6S! hehe


8bit said:
Ikemi said:
The ‘S’ has 40BHP extra, a limited slip differential, adaptive suspension, active exhaust and a few nice-to-have options such as a larger front brake disc etc.
Is it a proper, mechanical LSD or an e-diff like my 5.0 XKR has? If it's a LSD then do the V8 F-types not get that as well?
Yep! Base V6 is an open diff, V6S is a mechanical limited slip diff and the V8 models are e-diffs.

esso

1,849 posts

222 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Chamon_Lee said:
esso said:
Don't mess about.... get the V8.
Never understand why people do this, it’s a silly remark. I am sure many if they could get the v8 R they would; it’s human nature. Sure some would still prefer the v6 over the v8 but overall everyone would want the level up. I’m sure if it was a realistic option they would have posted asking about it!

In saying that OP honestly the v6 is a brilliant car and brilliant engine. As a few other posters have said it comes down to what options you really want and go from there. I would stay away from the base v6 if budget allows it.
I say this from experience and I guess it's down to what you have driven before.
I have driven V8 TVR Cerberas for 16 years, a 'pure' analogue drive.
Loved the F-Type when it came out, wanted the V8 but didn't want to sell the TVR to buy one.
So settled for a V6S Coupe, it was quoted as 'the best drivers car at the time' from the range.
Had it a year, did 8k miles in it, it was fun but didn't put a big smile on my face as the TVR did, so sold the F Type and had the TVR rebuilt.
That was 4 years ago, I have now sold the TVR and bought a full-fat XKR Coupe... 5 litre, supercharged, 510BHP, just put some decent tyres on it and I'm going to have some fun in it.

FezSpider

1,066 posts

237 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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Chamon_Lee said:
Never understand why people do this, it’s a silly remark.
Yea its annoying isnt it. I thought that my self.

reddiesel

2,311 posts

52 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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FezSpider said:
Yea its annoying isnt it. I thought that my self.
Alternatively of course there are now so many models of the F Type available that its a job to keep track . I dont think the Poster meant any harm by his advice . What are the price differentials between the V6 and the V8 , around £10k I think from memory ?

TravelsVeryRapid

516 posts

283 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Chamon_Lee said:
Never understand why people do this, it’s a silly remark. I am sure many if they could get the v8 R they would; it’s human nature. Sure some would still prefer the v6 over the v8 but overall everyone would want the level up. I’m sure if it was a realistic option they would have posted asking about it!

In saying that OP honestly the v6 is a brilliant car and brilliant engine. As a few other posters have said it comes down to what options you really want and go from there. I would stay away from the base v6 if budget allows it.
Yes it annoys the hell out of me, if I’d had wanted a V8 I would have bought one. The V6S has enough power and its better round the twisty roads in the area where I live.


Edited by TravelsVeryRapid on Saturday 10th April 17:38

reddiesel

2,311 posts

52 months

Sunday 11th April 2021
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TravelsVeryRapid said:
Yes it annoys the hell out of me, if I’d had wanted a V8 I would have bought one. The V6S has enough power and its better round the twisty roads in the area where I live.


Edited by TravelsVeryRapid on Saturday 10th April 17:38
" better round the twisty roads in the area where i live " what a load of old pony . To make any such comparison even if it were accurate would require you to drive both round those same roads which of course you havent . More likely you have read someone elses opinion looked at your bank balance and thought a V6 will suffice . This for me is the problem with Jaguar Ownership nowadays , once they were an aspirational product driven by a certain type of people , a diesel for example was something the grocer delivered the shopping in . Nowadays Jaguar Ownership is driven purely by the ability of someone to obtain a leasing agreement and inevitably they roll up here talking nonsense like you have . Get yourself across to Jaguar Forum or any of the other numerous Jaguar Websites and come back when you are better educated .

deebs

555 posts

65 months

Sunday 11th April 2021
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reddiesel said:
" better round the twisty roads in the area where i live " what a load of old pony . To make any such comparison even if it were accurate would require you to drive both round those same roads which of course you havent . More likely you have read someone elses opinion looked at your bank balance and thought a V6 will suffice . This for me is the problem with Jaguar Ownership nowadays , once they were an aspirational product driven by a certain type of people , a diesel for example was something the grocer delivered the shopping in . Nowadays Jaguar Ownership is driven purely by the ability of someone to obtain a leasing agreement and inevitably they roll up here talking nonsense like you have . Get yourself across to Jaguar Forum or any of the other numerous Jaguar Websites and come back when you are better educated .
Maybe you could design a "type of person" test for jaguar to use to make sure no more are sold to the wrong sort.

TravelsVeryRapid

516 posts

283 months

Sunday 11th April 2021
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reddiesel said:
" better round the twisty roads in the area where i live " what a load of old pony . To make any such comparison even if it were accurate would require you to drive both round those same roads which of course you havent . More likely you have read someone elses opinion looked at your bank balance and thought a V6 will suffice . This for me is the problem with Jaguar Ownership nowadays , once they were an aspirational product driven by a certain type of people , a diesel for example was something the grocer delivered the shopping in . Nowadays Jaguar Ownership is driven purely by the ability of someone to obtain a leasing agreement and inevitably they roll up here talking nonsense like you have . Get yourself across to Jaguar Forum or any of the other numerous Jaguar Websites and come back when you are better educated .
What a load of cobblers!

reddiesel

2,311 posts

52 months

Sunday 11th April 2021
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deebs said:
Maybe you could design a "type of person" test for jaguar to use to make sure no more are sold to the wrong sort.
Some will find a lot of sense in that but with such a high percentage of new cars being sold as Lease Deals then perhaps the cat is already out of the bag. Seriously though , is it a fair point to make that the Company has lost its way in recent years , it seems to me that the Brand has been stretched to such an extent with shopping trolley SUVs that the Company has forgotten what it is best at . On the other hand I accept the difficulties in such a Company remaining a niche product .

TravelsVeryRapid

516 posts

283 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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reddiesel said:
Some will find a lot of sense in that but with such a high percentage of new cars being sold as Lease Deals then perhaps the cat is already out of the bag. Seriously though , is it a fair point to make that the Company has lost its way in recent years , it seems to me that the Brand has been stretched to such an extent with shopping trolley SUVs that the Company has forgotten what it is best at . On the other hand I accept the difficulties in such a Company remaining a niche product .
I think deebs was actually joking. Not only are you an idiot but you are also a very unpleasant one.

reddiesel

2,311 posts

52 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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TravelsVeryRapid said:
I think deebs was actually joking. Not only are you an idiot but you are also a very unpleasant one.
As was I though only to a certain extent which was obviously beyond your limited intellect . Of you trot now to the XE Forum where you can stun all the members with your tremendous insight and unparalleled Jaguar ownership experience .