XF sportbrake V6 diesel
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Any Sportbrake V6 diesel owners on here?
Next year going to need to replace my combination of 981 Cayman S and Leon FR TDI with an estate of some kind, we now have 2 big dogs and potentially next year will become a dad for first time. Combined with up scaling houses I need to find something that has power but can be used as a daily as well while not costing the earth!
So far looked at;
E55 AMG
Alfa 159 (3.2 and 2.4)
Now I know the above are 2 very different cars,Was out yesterday and spotted a very nice XF Sportbrake in blue!
So lets see them people, anything to look out for? as with all my diesels I would probably delete the mufflers and would 100% be remapping it. Anybody tuned one? Am I right in saying you can only get an auto version? my 981 is PDK and previous weekend car Stage 2 Leon Cupra was DSG but dont really like auto diesels.
I'd be looking at 2nd hand obviously.
Next year going to need to replace my combination of 981 Cayman S and Leon FR TDI with an estate of some kind, we now have 2 big dogs and potentially next year will become a dad for first time. Combined with up scaling houses I need to find something that has power but can be used as a daily as well while not costing the earth!
So far looked at;
E55 AMG
Alfa 159 (3.2 and 2.4)
Now I know the above are 2 very different cars,Was out yesterday and spotted a very nice XF Sportbrake in blue!
So lets see them people, anything to look out for? as with all my diesels I would probably delete the mufflers and would 100% be remapping it. Anybody tuned one? Am I right in saying you can only get an auto version? my 981 is PDK and previous weekend car Stage 2 Leon Cupra was DSG but dont really like auto diesels.
I'd be looking at 2nd hand obviously.
I've had a 14 plate 3.0D Sportbrake from new. Looks-wise I think it's the best of the bunch, inheriting the saloon's facelift and before the model was 'updated' circa 2017 with a lower rent interior.
Mine has generally been reliable, but has had a few niggles and has just cost me a big chunk for a service and a few jobs at 66k.
From new I had repeated problems with the rear tailgate alignment which the dealer could never get sorted. In the end I decided it was just rubbish and learnt to live with it, until last year when one of the powered struts failed (probably due to poor alignment) and I took it to a specialist - hey presto, one perfectly aligned tailgate.
The front wishbone bushes are toast at about 30k. They used to be a very expensive job as you had to replace the whole wishbones, but now you can just get the bushes themselves replaced.
Rear discs last about 30k. You can probably stretch the pads to 20k, but then your discs will be toast before the second set of pads. I changed my discs and pads myself a couple of months ago - was an easy job and about £150 in genuine parts.
My drivers door lock module failed, meaning things like the memory seats, folding mirrors and central locking didn't work from the drivers door or fob - they just unlocked the drivers door only. If opening the car from any other door, then all worked as it should. Module was about £300ish plus labour.
I've had a leaking screenwash pump which was an easy fix and a leaking headlight washer jet, which was a bumper off job to replace.
At 66k I've just had the gearbox oil replaced as a precaution. It's supposedly sealed for life, but I don't trust things like that.
There is no manual option for the XF (or any modern Jag that I know of), although it does have the flappy paddles which are fun on occasions, but really not necessary with the brilliant 8sp auto box. The 3.0 diesel is plenty fast enough for everyday driving and genuinely pretty quick with full sport and dynamic mode engaged, but it isn't a sports car by any means. TBH, I don't know why you'd want to decat or remap one - if you want a faster version then go for the petrol XFR Sportbrake.
All in all, I love mine as a practical daily family wagon and something special enough for when I'm on my own. I can't think of anything of similar value I'd replace it with.
Mine has generally been reliable, but has had a few niggles and has just cost me a big chunk for a service and a few jobs at 66k.
From new I had repeated problems with the rear tailgate alignment which the dealer could never get sorted. In the end I decided it was just rubbish and learnt to live with it, until last year when one of the powered struts failed (probably due to poor alignment) and I took it to a specialist - hey presto, one perfectly aligned tailgate.
The front wishbone bushes are toast at about 30k. They used to be a very expensive job as you had to replace the whole wishbones, but now you can just get the bushes themselves replaced.
Rear discs last about 30k. You can probably stretch the pads to 20k, but then your discs will be toast before the second set of pads. I changed my discs and pads myself a couple of months ago - was an easy job and about £150 in genuine parts.
My drivers door lock module failed, meaning things like the memory seats, folding mirrors and central locking didn't work from the drivers door or fob - they just unlocked the drivers door only. If opening the car from any other door, then all worked as it should. Module was about £300ish plus labour.
I've had a leaking screenwash pump which was an easy fix and a leaking headlight washer jet, which was a bumper off job to replace.
At 66k I've just had the gearbox oil replaced as a precaution. It's supposedly sealed for life, but I don't trust things like that.
There is no manual option for the XF (or any modern Jag that I know of), although it does have the flappy paddles which are fun on occasions, but really not necessary with the brilliant 8sp auto box. The 3.0 diesel is plenty fast enough for everyday driving and genuinely pretty quick with full sport and dynamic mode engaged, but it isn't a sports car by any means. TBH, I don't know why you'd want to decat or remap one - if you want a faster version then go for the petrol XFR Sportbrake.
All in all, I love mine as a practical daily family wagon and something special enough for when I'm on my own. I can't think of anything of similar value I'd replace it with.
groomi said:
I don't know why you'd want to decat or remap one - if you want a faster version then go for the petrol XFR Sportbrake.
Never owned a standard car, all my cars have been insured on modified insurance and always seems to be cheaper, for example my 2014 Cupra they wanted about £700 for insurance new, declared modifications straight away and it dropped to about £400. plus makes it a sleeper then haha.
Ran one for 12 months, my thread is below. Brilliant cars, under-rated and not many around. They are 271bhp as standard and 600 NM, whilst you can remap, stage 1 will get you to 330bhp, you need to be careful about the extra torque as standard 8sp ZF is rated to 700NM.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=18...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=18...
t. The accountants took hold unfortunately and have since confined Jaguar to the euro-box fleet. AJB88 said:
Yeh I'd be looking at the older ones, guessing they did do the 271bhp version in the older model?
Yes older X250 sportbrake made between 2012-2015 and diesel only. Newer X260 made from late 2015 onwards and offer diesel and petrol but as Ninjag says, first gen better to look at IMO and has nicer interior. Portfolio spec gets you some decent toys too - Meridian surround sound is sublimeAJB88 said:
Yeh I'd be looking at the older ones, guessing they did do the 271bhp version in the older model?
240 & a 271 in V6d form. As said - get a portfolio. I had two saloons and the equipment is fantastic, especially on the last models where some options became standard. I’ve now got the R-S which is pretty much portfolio spec inside with R-S badges dotted about. Heated and cooled seat as standard. I have a 2019 XF Sportbrake V6 Diesel Portfolio. It is my second XF, the first, a V6 Diesel Portfolio saloon. I have never had an issue with either car and am quite surprised at the poor reputation Jaguar has with reliability. Not in my case. My first XF was a 2010 model in which I covered 22000 miles without any failure at all. I had a service pack initially and went on for another 2 years with service at a Jag specialist.
The Sportbrake is now 19 months old and with only 5020 miles on the clock. The mileage is low because of the constraints of the pandemic. I also have the 5 year service pack at £815. As a Royal Navy veteran I managed to secure a 26% discount on the Sportbrake including 'extra's', such a good deal, how could you look at anything else. I did look though, at BMW 5 series, Audi A4 and A6 and also Mercedes E Class. None could match the Jag for me.
I am totally amazed at the fuel consumption on the Sportbrake, I have seen upwards of 60MPG on long runs and rarely below 40 locally.
So for me, the XF, especially at the price I paid is head and shoulders above anything else in its class.
The Sportbrake is now 19 months old and with only 5020 miles on the clock. The mileage is low because of the constraints of the pandemic. I also have the 5 year service pack at £815. As a Royal Navy veteran I managed to secure a 26% discount on the Sportbrake including 'extra's', such a good deal, how could you look at anything else. I did look though, at BMW 5 series, Audi A4 and A6 and also Mercedes E Class. None could match the Jag for me.
I am totally amazed at the fuel consumption on the Sportbrake, I have seen upwards of 60MPG on long runs and rarely below 40 locally.
So for me, the XF, especially at the price I paid is head and shoulders above anything else in its class.
Garry White said:
I have a 2019 XF Sportbrake V6 Diesel Portfolio. It is my second XF, the first, a V6 Diesel Portfolio saloon. I have never had an issue with either car and am quite surprised at the poor reputation Jaguar has with reliability. Not in my case. My first XF was a 2010 model in which I covered 22000 miles without any failure at all. I had a service pack initially and went on for another 2 years with service at a Jag specialist.
The Sportbrake is now 19 months old and with only 5020 miles on the clock. The mileage is low because of the constraints of the pandemic. I also have the 5 year service pack at £815. As a Royal Navy veteran I managed to secure a 26% discount on the Sportbrake including 'extra's', such a good deal, how could you look at anything else. I did look though, at BMW 5 series, Audi A4 and A6 and also Mercedes E Class. None could match the Jag for me.
I am totally amazed at the fuel consumption on the Sportbrake, I have seen upwards of 60MPG on long runs and rarely below 40 locally.
So for me, the XF, especially at the price I paid is head and shoulders above anything else in its class.
I prefer low 20s mpg The Sportbrake is now 19 months old and with only 5020 miles on the clock. The mileage is low because of the constraints of the pandemic. I also have the 5 year service pack at £815. As a Royal Navy veteran I managed to secure a 26% discount on the Sportbrake including 'extra's', such a good deal, how could you look at anything else. I did look though, at BMW 5 series, Audi A4 and A6 and also Mercedes E Class. None could match the Jag for me.
I am totally amazed at the fuel consumption on the Sportbrake, I have seen upwards of 60MPG on long runs and rarely below 40 locally.
So for me, the XF, especially at the price I paid is head and shoulders above anything else in its class.
I have what I consider to be a great combination of cars - MX-5 ND 2.0 for fun & a 2013 3.0 Sportbreak Premium Luxury (I think that's the trim, it's one below the Portfolio) as a daily
Obviously would like the goodies that come with the top spec, but not bothered about the bigger wheels - kind of goes against the grain for the type of car it is. Would love a sunroof & the chilled seats. My main gripe is with the penny pinching on what was a £45k car. I think the XF was designed by Ford who IMHO think carefully about the use of a car in daily life for their cars. No coin tray (but a bucket sized ashtray) & a through load facility)/ski hatch only available as an option, limited adjustability on the passenger seat (no lumbar support ) but they did engineer an electrically adjustable steering wheel...
Economy is reasonable & it's a great long distance cruiser with decent acceleration when needed. I have off-street parking & live in a provincial west country town so the size of the car is not important (I don't have to park in small spaces, & if that becomes important I'll take the Mazda).
I always promised myself a Jaguar & after 15 months am not disappointed. I paid £11k for an 80000 mile car from a trader; it's a keeper but if I do get bored in a few years I won't have taken a bath on depreciation.
I'm glad I didn't follow the flock & get an A6 or 5 series! Not many 3 litres around (look for the double tailpipe) & I think the waftability & extra power of the V6 over the 4 cylinder would be worth the hunt; not sure that I share the OP's view of tuning - it's not that sort of car, but if mine was the higher powered V6 (which by all accounts has little affect on economy) it may add a frisson!
OP go for it!
Obviously would like the goodies that come with the top spec, but not bothered about the bigger wheels - kind of goes against the grain for the type of car it is. Would love a sunroof & the chilled seats. My main gripe is with the penny pinching on what was a £45k car. I think the XF was designed by Ford who IMHO think carefully about the use of a car in daily life for their cars. No coin tray (but a bucket sized ashtray) & a through load facility)/ski hatch only available as an option, limited adjustability on the passenger seat (no lumbar support ) but they did engineer an electrically adjustable steering wheel...
Economy is reasonable & it's a great long distance cruiser with decent acceleration when needed. I have off-street parking & live in a provincial west country town so the size of the car is not important (I don't have to park in small spaces, & if that becomes important I'll take the Mazda).
I always promised myself a Jaguar & after 15 months am not disappointed. I paid £11k for an 80000 mile car from a trader; it's a keeper but if I do get bored in a few years I won't have taken a bath on depreciation.
I'm glad I didn't follow the flock & get an A6 or 5 series! Not many 3 litres around (look for the double tailpipe) & I think the waftability & extra power of the V6 over the 4 cylinder would be worth the hunt; not sure that I share the OP's view of tuning - it's not that sort of car, but if mine was the higher powered V6 (which by all accounts has little affect on economy) it may add a frisson!
OP go for it!
Garry White said:
I have a 2019 XF Sportbrake V6 Diesel Portfolio. It is my second XF, the first, a V6 Diesel Portfolio saloon. I have never had an issue with either car and am quite surprised at the poor reputation Jaguar has with reliability. Not in my case. My first XF was a 2010 model in which I covered 22000 miles without any failure at all. I had a service pack initially and went on for another 2 years with service at a Jag specialist.
The Sportbrake is now 19 months old and with only 5020 miles on the clock. The mileage is low because of the constraints of the pandemic. I also have the 5 year service pack at £815. As a Royal Navy veteran I managed to secure a 26% discount on the Sportbrake including 'extra's', such a good deal, how could you look at anything else. I did look though, at BMW 5 series, Audi A4 and A6 and also Mercedes E Class. None could match the Jag for me.
I am totally amazed at the fuel consumption on the Sportbrake, I have seen upwards of 60MPG on long runs and rarely below 40 locally.
So for me, the XF, especially at the price I paid is head and shoulders above anything else in its class.
Matches my experience. Coming up to 3 yo, 27000, only fault the Oyster leather piping issue. 25T Petrol, averages over 40mpg. My service pack was £650.The Sportbrake is now 19 months old and with only 5020 miles on the clock. The mileage is low because of the constraints of the pandemic. I also have the 5 year service pack at £815. As a Royal Navy veteran I managed to secure a 26% discount on the Sportbrake including 'extra's', such a good deal, how could you look at anything else. I did look though, at BMW 5 series, Audi A4 and A6 and also Mercedes E Class. None could match the Jag for me.
I am totally amazed at the fuel consumption on the Sportbrake, I have seen upwards of 60MPG on long runs and rarely below 40 locally.
So for me, the XF, especially at the price I paid is head and shoulders above anything else in its class.
Sadly, though I don’t need them much, I don’t like my dealer. Bought the car from H A Fox, then they were taken over by Inchcape, since when they’ve gone down hill. This may well stop me buying other Jaguar.
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