2010 XK Portfolio - ruinous?
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Browsing the classifieds I've noticed that XK's are dropping firmly into the achievable category for myself.
This, amongst others, seems good value for money:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm normally a hot hatch kinda guy but I've a real desire at least once, to own a V8 Jaguar.
How ruinous is a car such as this likely to be?
Are there any inherent costs which are likely to lead me to having cold sweats at night?
Pics as always welcome
This, amongst others, seems good value for money:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm normally a hot hatch kinda guy but I've a real desire at least once, to own a V8 Jaguar.
How ruinous is a car such as this likely to be?
Are there any inherent costs which are likely to lead me to having cold sweats at night?
Pics as always welcome
TheFungle said:
Browsing the classifieds I've noticed that XK's are dropping firmly into the achievable category for myself.
This, amongst others, seems good value for money:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm normally a hot hatch kinda guy but I've a real desire at least once, to own a V8 Jaguar.
How ruinous is a car such as this likely to be?
Are there any inherent costs which are likely to lead me to having cold sweats at night?
Pics as always welcome
I run a 4.2XK and find it easily affordable. Mind you I do <10K miles a year and have found an excellent indy garage who can service it for sensible money. I wouldn't want a Jag dealer to get their hands on it. MPG is 26-31. This, amongst others, seems good value for money:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm normally a hot hatch kinda guy but I've a real desire at least once, to own a V8 Jaguar.
How ruinous is a car such as this likely to be?
Are there any inherent costs which are likely to lead me to having cold sweats at night?
Pics as always welcome
So yours being a 5.0 will use a bit more fuel. Other than that, as long as you're trading in the black, I don't see any problems. Try it
Generally they are as tough as old boots, bar a small number of 5.0 litre tensioner problems; oil changes at 7,000 - 8,000 miles rather than Jaguar's recommended 16,000 are a good idea. Consumables are reasonably inexpensive and even main agent servicing using the 3+ scheme is cheap enough.
As a hot hatch man, you may prefer something a bit sharper, the supercharged R versions have tighter suspension and better brakes, as well as mental performance, with no loss of reliability.
As a hot hatch man, you may prefer something a bit sharper, the supercharged R versions have tighter suspension and better brakes, as well as mental performance, with no loss of reliability.
They're not ruinous at all. They were the most reliable car in their class at the time, (large GT) and not surprisingly are cheaper to maintain than other similar cars.
Think Maserati GT, BMW 650 / M6, Merc SL, Bentley Conti GT, Porsche 9whatever and you'll get my drift.
Keep the battery in good shape, and regular good quality oil changes and it should be fine. As with any car though, make sure you get a good one to start with.
Think Maserati GT, BMW 650 / M6, Merc SL, Bentley Conti GT, Porsche 9whatever and you'll get my drift.
Keep the battery in good shape, and regular good quality oil changes and it should be fine. As with any car though, make sure you get a good one to start with.
First of all, for that money you could get yourself the full-bifter, 500bhp, 5 litre XKR with a little more miles on it, that XK seems a bit overpriced to me. As I understand it, you get most/all of the interior niceties from the XK Portfolio in the XKR anyway, with the addition of a supercharger and another 120ish BHP to play with too.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Running costs are not terrifying; servicing is very reasonable even at main dealer rates as these all now qualify for Jaguar's fixed-price servicing scheme for cars over three years old. I think it's about £300 for interim service and £350 for major ones, these alternate year about. As for fuel, the 5.0 engine is reportedly *slightly* more fuel efficient than the old 4.2 as it has direct injection which slightly more than balances out the greater capacity. Tax will be the full £525 or whatever it is this year on all of them but most folk find that insurance is pretty cheap.
I've had a 4.2 XKR and currently the 5.0 XKR, as someone above said there are "sharper tools" out there but you absolutely can hustle these along a B-road, just have to learn how to get the best from them. A smoother hand is rewarded more than a beasting, I find. I came to my previous 4.2 from a reasonably modified and sorted SEAT Leon Cupra R, once I got used to the XKR I never looked back. Best thing for me about these is that you don't need to wring its' neck to have any fun, they can be rewarding even just wafting about but there's that sense of limitless performance on tap when you want it.
Since you said pics...
DSC_5569 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
DSC_5589 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
DSC_5631 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
DSC_5648 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Running costs are not terrifying; servicing is very reasonable even at main dealer rates as these all now qualify for Jaguar's fixed-price servicing scheme for cars over three years old. I think it's about £300 for interim service and £350 for major ones, these alternate year about. As for fuel, the 5.0 engine is reportedly *slightly* more fuel efficient than the old 4.2 as it has direct injection which slightly more than balances out the greater capacity. Tax will be the full £525 or whatever it is this year on all of them but most folk find that insurance is pretty cheap.
I've had a 4.2 XKR and currently the 5.0 XKR, as someone above said there are "sharper tools" out there but you absolutely can hustle these along a B-road, just have to learn how to get the best from them. A smoother hand is rewarded more than a beasting, I find. I came to my previous 4.2 from a reasonably modified and sorted SEAT Leon Cupra R, once I got used to the XKR I never looked back. Best thing for me about these is that you don't need to wring its' neck to have any fun, they can be rewarding even just wafting about but there's that sense of limitless performance on tap when you want it.
Since you said pics...
DSC_5569 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
DSC_5589 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
DSC_5631 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
DSC_5648 by Niall Porter Photography, on Flickr
8bit said:
Best thing for me about these is that you don't need to wring its' neck to have any fun, they can be rewarding even just wafting about but there's that sense of limitless performance on tap when you want it.
This sums up what is great about these cars. I bought a 5.0 XK last year after a few months of looking. I started looking at the older X100 shape but realised the 4.2 X150 cars were not much more and inevitably the budget crept up and I ended up with a 5 litre car.
Gearbox oil and filter is worth replacing at 60k miles and keep on a trickle charger to keep the electrical gremlins at bay.
I don't think you'll find a better looking car for the money.
Listen to the 5.0 from cold at start up as it comes off fast idle. Any strange noises then walk. The injectors are noisy but regular. Chain tensioners becoming more and more an issue. They also suffer oiling problem to the rear inlet valve area - the last part of the engine to get oil. Jaguar reduced the oil viscosity spec to try and alleviate this. Other than that there’s the odd manufacturing issues with some components. Not a bullet proof engine but enjoyable.
I bought a MY 2010 45k XK 5.0 Portfolio Coupe last summer from a dealer with dealer backed warranty ,having previously owned an X100 XKR
This model is better in every regard
Tax is £580 pa ouch - but i only drive mine in the summer months so no biggie and mpg not really an issue either TBH for dsame reason
Insurance is cheap £120 pa
Go for a lower miler if you can with a decent SH
Dealers should be falling over to give big discounts at present as there isn't a lot of money around
I find the performance and handling of XK perfectly adequate for everyday driving
Its not as nimble as say a Cayman S but its a lot more classy IMHO and looks fabulous
In reality you cant use the performance of the XKR on our shoddy roads so for me the XK hit the sweet spot
I would say the XK on PH is circa 1.5K over what its worth with that mileage
Wait a few months and then youll be able to nail down a deal
This model is better in every regard
Tax is £580 pa ouch - but i only drive mine in the summer months so no biggie and mpg not really an issue either TBH for dsame reason
Insurance is cheap £120 pa
Go for a lower miler if you can with a decent SH
Dealers should be falling over to give big discounts at present as there isn't a lot of money around
I find the performance and handling of XK perfectly adequate for everyday driving
Its not as nimble as say a Cayman S but its a lot more classy IMHO and looks fabulous
In reality you cant use the performance of the XKR on our shoddy roads so for me the XK hit the sweet spot
I would say the XK on PH is circa 1.5K over what its worth with that mileage
Wait a few months and then youll be able to nail down a deal
Edited by doclip on Saturday 6th June 21:47
Thanks for the input and pics
I'm torn at the moment between swapping my Abarth for an XK (or similar) or making the switch to shed motoring.
I've a suspicion that the XK is something I'd prefer to run for six months rather than for several years which is highly unlikley to make any sort of financial sense.
I'm torn at the moment between swapping my Abarth for an XK (or similar) or making the switch to shed motoring.
I've a suspicion that the XK is something I'd prefer to run for six months rather than for several years which is highly unlikley to make any sort of financial sense.
TheFungle said:
I'm torn at the moment between swapping my Abarth for an XK (or similar) or making the switch to shed motoring.
Shed or Jaguar is a dilemma I've been trying to resolve for many years as there's naturally a requirement to balance the additional commitment and needs of a shiny Jaguar over the liberation from care and freedom of a scruffy shed against whatever virtues you may find in the Jaguar compared with the shed and there's no single consistent answer to that.I've avoided the dilemma by having both shed and Jaguar for decades, but never spent much more than pocket money to buy or run either. I do all my own maintenance on both so garage costs aren't any issue which makes both comfortably affordable and they're both long term keepers so a few extra miles on either doesn't matter making the bottom line there's no financial considerations between either and that allows complete freedom of choice to which set of keys I grab when I leave the house.
With that in mind I found I've gone from a roughly equal mileage split between the two in the past and n more recent years have settled into a pattern approaching driving ten times the miles annually in the shed to those I've driven in the Jaguar.
Make of that whatever you will...
Jaguar steve said:
I've avoided the dilemma by having both shed and Jaguar for decades
For years I ran a sensible luxury car and a sports car. But after a boat came along, the sports car got so little use it didn't make sense to keep it. However the XK (convertible) does a fair job of ticking both boxes and even now after almost 3 years of ownership, I'm still sometimes surprised by good it looks!2010 XKR convertible here, had it for 3.5 years now, from 75k miles up the present 100k.
So in 3 years, 25k miles, the only fix expenses were a S/C snout and air con condensor when I first got it.
Servicing £250 a pop roughly under the Jag dealership classics scheme, Tax is £580 so quite hefty, insurance is under £300 a year for me.
I also tend to give mine an inbetween oil service. The oil is and filter is about £100, but soooo easy to do as it's designed to be done with a sucker via under the bonnet, no crawling around under the car required.
Brakes and discs all in I paid about £500 for all four corners and fitted myself. Drilled and cost cut so could be cheaper if that was in issue.
Two rear tyres for about £300 the pair.
I added a few bits and bobs but those through choice rather than need. Like a controller to enable remote and one touch roof operation.
So all in all, considering the performance and soft top pose, I can't imagine there's much cheaper to run.
The 5.0 S/C engine is a beast.
So in 3 years, 25k miles, the only fix expenses were a S/C snout and air con condensor when I first got it.
Servicing £250 a pop roughly under the Jag dealership classics scheme, Tax is £580 so quite hefty, insurance is under £300 a year for me.
I also tend to give mine an inbetween oil service. The oil is and filter is about £100, but soooo easy to do as it's designed to be done with a sucker via under the bonnet, no crawling around under the car required.
Brakes and discs all in I paid about £500 for all four corners and fitted myself. Drilled and cost cut so could be cheaper if that was in issue.
Two rear tyres for about £300 the pair.
I added a few bits and bobs but those through choice rather than need. Like a controller to enable remote and one touch roof operation.
So all in all, considering the performance and soft top pose, I can't imagine there's much cheaper to run.
The 5.0 S/C engine is a beast.
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