Inginium diesel servicing
Discussion
Ive read the horror stores but we have 2 of these engines and neither has demanded an early service or had the oil level rise due to diesel dilution or shown a dpf warning, so our driving style must be okay. My plan was to do an interim oil service every year. Just wondering if they are programmed to issue a service message based on time because mine hasnt yet.
Each to their own of course, but I'm just not a believer in extended service intervals, especially if it's a car with a timing chain. Engine oil is just far too important in my opinion, especially when considering the cost of oil and filter compared to the potential consequences.
However, if you want to stick to the official servicing schedule and not feeling the love with the computer, then if you go to the Jaguar website and start to go through the motions of booking a service with them online you get to a stage before committing where you can download all the service schedules for your exact car.
However, if you want to stick to the official servicing schedule and not feeling the love with the computer, then if you go to the Jaguar website and start to go through the motions of booking a service with them online you get to a stage before committing where you can download all the service schedules for your exact car.
ninjag said:
Each to their own of course, but I'm just not a believer in extended service intervals, especially if it's a car with a timing chain. Engine oil is just far too important in my opinion, especially when considering the cost of oil and filter compared to the potential consequences.
Neither am I. New oil is way cheaper than a new engine.To answer the original question, yes it works off mileage and time. Intervals are 21k miles or 2 years whichever arrives first.
Re your other point about oil dilution, the XE, XF and F-pace do not suffer from this as much as other JLR products with the ingenium engine. This is due to their longitudinal orientation which gives sufficient room to place the cat/filter close to the engine, it's actually bolted directly to the turbo outlet. This allows it to warm up quickly even on 'short' journeys and thus complete a natural regeneration.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0bcrd7sve4l598/D8%20Dil...
Re your other point about oil dilution, the XE, XF and F-pace do not suffer from this as much as other JLR products with the ingenium engine. This is due to their longitudinal orientation which gives sufficient room to place the cat/filter close to the engine, it's actually bolted directly to the turbo outlet. This allows it to warm up quickly even on 'short' journeys and thus complete a natural regeneration.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0bcrd7sve4l598/D8%20Dil...
I always go with the theory manufacturers write service schedules for their benefit and not yours.
The showroom appeal of any car only being scheduled for a bi annual service over one scheduled for an annual one is strong as it immediately reduces perceived running costs. This appeals most of all to fleet managers who buy new cars by the truckload and have to watch every penny of cost in the first three years. On a tight purchasing budget more frequent and more realistic servicing could well be the deal breaker so no manufacturer will even think about not matching the competition.
Add that to the fact a older car that's comfortably out of warranty but way too young to scrap breaking something or starting to leak fluids due to insufficient preventative maintenance is a really good thing for dealers, parts suppliers and component manufacturers but obviously not for the person forking out for leaky oil seals or stretched timing chains or knackered turbos. Look at the stupidity of marketing gearboxes as sealed for life as another example - everybody thought that's surely a good thing until you're on the back of a tow truck and anxiously Googling the cost of a new 'box.
Extended service intervals are a triumph of marketing IMO. I'll bet if you had a proper oil analysis done on a car that's a few k miles short of the next scheduled service or some way off actually triggering the service indicator you'd find the oil has degraded to significantly below the minimum spec. the manufacturer calls for and that's compromising the serviceability and life of every component the oil is in contact with.
I'm sticking with changing oil way more frequently than the manufacturer wants me too.
The showroom appeal of any car only being scheduled for a bi annual service over one scheduled for an annual one is strong as it immediately reduces perceived running costs. This appeals most of all to fleet managers who buy new cars by the truckload and have to watch every penny of cost in the first three years. On a tight purchasing budget more frequent and more realistic servicing could well be the deal breaker so no manufacturer will even think about not matching the competition.
Add that to the fact a older car that's comfortably out of warranty but way too young to scrap breaking something or starting to leak fluids due to insufficient preventative maintenance is a really good thing for dealers, parts suppliers and component manufacturers but obviously not for the person forking out for leaky oil seals or stretched timing chains or knackered turbos. Look at the stupidity of marketing gearboxes as sealed for life as another example - everybody thought that's surely a good thing until you're on the back of a tow truck and anxiously Googling the cost of a new 'box.
Extended service intervals are a triumph of marketing IMO. I'll bet if you had a proper oil analysis done on a car that's a few k miles short of the next scheduled service or some way off actually triggering the service indicator you'd find the oil has degraded to significantly below the minimum spec. the manufacturer calls for and that's compromising the serviceability and life of every component the oil is in contact with.
I'm sticking with changing oil way more frequently than the manufacturer wants me too.
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