Jaguar XJ Portfolio Diesel anyone own one?
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I'm on the look out for a replacement for my F01 730d saloon. I was all set to replace the BMW with another 7 but decided to take a look around at a few alternatives, the XJ looks a lovely car and in portfolio trim very well specified.
Anyone run one on here and care to share your experiences with reliability etc? I'd be looking at a diesel
Anyone run one on here and care to share your experiences with reliability etc? I'd be looking at a diesel
Don't know how much help I can be but my dad is on his second XJ. The current one being a Portfolio. No major issues to report. The only issue he's had is a drivers seat heating element stop working.
I have to say its a lovely car to be in. His has a oatmeal interior and it is stunning. I'm not one for diesels myself but he gets on well with it. It does handle very well for such a big car and the V6 diesel has plenty of power. I think he is currently getting a 48mpg average.
I have to say its a lovely car to be in. His has a oatmeal interior and it is stunning. I'm not one for diesels myself but he gets on well with it. It does handle very well for such a big car and the V6 diesel has plenty of power. I think he is currently getting a 48mpg average.
You'll get a better response on https://www.jaginfo.org forum. Plenty of owners on there,
i've run one for 6 years now, it was 9 moths old when i bought it, now at 90k
few initial gremlins but has been brilliant and just so smooth on long journeys, but can shift when you need it to
i love it so much that i'm now looking at the electric xj to replace it but may well keep it, they are a bargain so far three people have been in it and wanted one so much they've bought one and are still running around in them
few initial gremlins but has been brilliant and just so smooth on long journeys, but can shift when you need it to
i love it so much that i'm now looking at the electric xj to replace it but may well keep it, they are a bargain so far three people have been in it and wanted one so much they've bought one and are still running around in them
Phew, managed to see this one in time to stop you making a serious mistake.
I've had a succession of Audi A8s and they always have something (minor) electrical wrong with them, but never fail to proceed. I have a Griffith 500 and Vantage 4.3 as weekend cars (neither of which have ever broken down) so I drive with some mechanical sympathy.
I recently saw an XJ 3.0TDi Portfolio and loved the spec. I'm an interiors engineer and the interior trim is second only to Bentley. The stereo is incredible and all the other standard options (heated/cooled massage seats etc) are just amazing for the money.
DO NOT BUY ONE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
I bought mine in October 2018. It has been in the garage 5 times for a total of 7 weeks. It has cost over £4,500 in that time to replace "known" faults.
The plastic coolant junction split, dumping al the coolant at high speed.
The intercooler split (they all do it, not on warranty though)
The inlet manifolds split (they all do it, not on warranty)
The EGR pipe split (they all do it......you get the idea)
The rear cam chain drive has partially seized and generated a load of swarf, which has got into the cam bearing surface (and god knows where else in the engine)
The Dpf blocked and then caused the turbos to coke up and nearly seize.
Trim and electrically the XJ is magnificent, but the engine is a disgrace; go over 100,000 miles and forget it.
I part-exed the Jag last Saturday against another A8 (losing £3,500 in the deal) and I will never ever buy a JLR product, ever again.
Sorry to spoil things if you set your heart on one, but I wouldn't recommend one to my worst enemy. I t wasn't a Friday afternoon car either; look up any of the above faults on Google and plenty of people have the same issues.
I've had a succession of Audi A8s and they always have something (minor) electrical wrong with them, but never fail to proceed. I have a Griffith 500 and Vantage 4.3 as weekend cars (neither of which have ever broken down) so I drive with some mechanical sympathy.
I recently saw an XJ 3.0TDi Portfolio and loved the spec. I'm an interiors engineer and the interior trim is second only to Bentley. The stereo is incredible and all the other standard options (heated/cooled massage seats etc) are just amazing for the money.
DO NOT BUY ONE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
I bought mine in October 2018. It has been in the garage 5 times for a total of 7 weeks. It has cost over £4,500 in that time to replace "known" faults.
The plastic coolant junction split, dumping al the coolant at high speed.
The intercooler split (they all do it, not on warranty though)
The inlet manifolds split (they all do it, not on warranty)
The EGR pipe split (they all do it......you get the idea)
The rear cam chain drive has partially seized and generated a load of swarf, which has got into the cam bearing surface (and god knows where else in the engine)
The Dpf blocked and then caused the turbos to coke up and nearly seize.
Trim and electrically the XJ is magnificent, but the engine is a disgrace; go over 100,000 miles and forget it.
I part-exed the Jag last Saturday against another A8 (losing £3,500 in the deal) and I will never ever buy a JLR product, ever again.
Sorry to spoil things if you set your heart on one, but I wouldn't recommend one to my worst enemy. I t wasn't a Friday afternoon car either; look up any of the above faults on Google and plenty of people have the same issues.
DobHunter said:
Phew, managed to see this one in time to stop you making a serious mistake.
I've had a succession of Audi A8s and they always have something (minor) electrical wrong with them, but never fail to proceed. I have a Griffith 500 and Vantage 4.3 as weekend cars (neither of which have ever broken down) so I drive with some mechanical sympathy.
I recently saw an XJ 3.0TDi Portfolio and loved the spec. I'm an interiors engineer and the interior trim is second only to Bentley. The stereo is incredible and all the other standard options (heated/cooled massage seats etc) are just amazing for the money.
DO NOT BUY ONE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
I bought mine in October 2018. It has been in the garage 5 times for a total of 7 weeks. It has cost over £4,500 in that time to replace "known" faults.
The plastic coolant junction split, dumping al the coolant at high speed.
The intercooler split (they all do it, not on warranty though)
The inlet manifolds split (they all do it, not on warranty)
The EGR pipe split (they all do it......you get the idea)
The rear cam chain drive has partially seized and generated a load of swarf, which has got into the cam bearing surface (and god knows where else in the engine)
The Dpf blocked and then caused the turbos to coke up and nearly seize.
Trim and electrically the XJ is magnificent, but the engine is a disgrace; go over 100,000 miles and forget it.
I part-exed the Jag last Saturday against another A8 (losing £3,500 in the deal) and I will never ever buy a JLR product, ever again.
Sorry to spoil things if you set your heart on one, but I wouldn't recommend one to my worst enemy. I t wasn't a Friday afternoon car either; look up any of the above faults on Google and plenty of people have the same issues.
Andrew, sorry to hear of your various issues, it does sound like you've been extremely unfortunate! I've had a succession of Audi A8s and they always have something (minor) electrical wrong with them, but never fail to proceed. I have a Griffith 500 and Vantage 4.3 as weekend cars (neither of which have ever broken down) so I drive with some mechanical sympathy.
I recently saw an XJ 3.0TDi Portfolio and loved the spec. I'm an interiors engineer and the interior trim is second only to Bentley. The stereo is incredible and all the other standard options (heated/cooled massage seats etc) are just amazing for the money.
DO NOT BUY ONE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
I bought mine in October 2018. It has been in the garage 5 times for a total of 7 weeks. It has cost over £4,500 in that time to replace "known" faults.
The plastic coolant junction split, dumping al the coolant at high speed.
The intercooler split (they all do it, not on warranty though)
The inlet manifolds split (they all do it, not on warranty)
The EGR pipe split (they all do it......you get the idea)
The rear cam chain drive has partially seized and generated a load of swarf, which has got into the cam bearing surface (and god knows where else in the engine)
The Dpf blocked and then caused the turbos to coke up and nearly seize.
Trim and electrically the XJ is magnificent, but the engine is a disgrace; go over 100,000 miles and forget it.
I part-exed the Jag last Saturday against another A8 (losing £3,500 in the deal) and I will never ever buy a JLR product, ever again.
Sorry to spoil things if you set your heart on one, but I wouldn't recommend one to my worst enemy. I t wasn't a Friday afternoon car either; look up any of the above faults on Google and plenty of people have the same issues.
Did you buy your car from a main dealer? Did it have a Jaguar warranty?
It was from a large car sales company in Liverpool. They genuinely weren't aware that it was like this when they sold it.
As the warranty ran out before all the issues came to light they did loan me a decent courtesy car for all the weeks it was in the garage.
The warranty only covered the split coolant hose anyway; the intercooler and inlet manifolds (£1,400 & £1,700 respectively) are not covered.
Its driving beautifully now, but I'm just hoping it doesn't blow up before I take it in to complete the part ex on Saturday.
It's a real shame as I really liked it, but you can't enjoy it anymore when you are just waiting for the next bigger thing to go wrong.
My uncle has run the previous shape XJs for years and never had a problem.
As the warranty ran out before all the issues came to light they did loan me a decent courtesy car for all the weeks it was in the garage.
The warranty only covered the split coolant hose anyway; the intercooler and inlet manifolds (£1,400 & £1,700 respectively) are not covered.
Its driving beautifully now, but I'm just hoping it doesn't blow up before I take it in to complete the part ex on Saturday.
It's a real shame as I really liked it, but you can't enjoy it anymore when you are just waiting for the next bigger thing to go wrong.
My uncle has run the previous shape XJs for years and never had a problem.
XJ is a fabulous car. The 3.0D is sublime and in Portfolio spec, is a very nice place to be.
Jags of this era are reliable and well built and relatively inexpensive to run, although as you will see in the Classifieds you can get cars from £60k to £30k, so pick the price you are comfortable with.
As for the car highlighted above, it appears to have not stayed in the franchise network, there may have been a reason for this?
Go drive one.
Jags of this era are reliable and well built and relatively inexpensive to run, although as you will see in the Classifieds you can get cars from £60k to £30k, so pick the price you are comfortable with.
As for the car highlighted above, it appears to have not stayed in the franchise network, there may have been a reason for this?
Go drive one.
Sorry, but Jaguar are not getting off the hook that easily.
The car was fully factory serviced right up to the point I bought it.
2000 miles after its last franchised service it dumped all its coolant all over the M6.
3000 miles later it broke its EGR system
and so on and so on.
Each time, Jaguar were aware of the recurring faults that many other V6 owners were having, but they chose not to offer any assistance.
That is why I went to a reputable Jaguar independent specialist.
He also concurred that he had seen the same faults and every time Jaguar had refused to acknowledge the issue.
DO NOT BUY A 3.0 TDi THAT HAS COVERED OVER 80,000 MILES. PERIOD.
At least the crank didn't snap, which is another known issue......
The car was fully factory serviced right up to the point I bought it.
2000 miles after its last franchised service it dumped all its coolant all over the M6.
3000 miles later it broke its EGR system
and so on and so on.
Each time, Jaguar were aware of the recurring faults that many other V6 owners were having, but they chose not to offer any assistance.
That is why I went to a reputable Jaguar independent specialist.
He also concurred that he had seen the same faults and every time Jaguar had refused to acknowledge the issue.
DO NOT BUY A 3.0 TDi THAT HAS COVERED OVER 80,000 MILES. PERIOD.
At least the crank didn't snap, which is another known issue......
From the newly updated thread "Another 3.0 Tdi engine gone bang"
"I'm seeing similar stories from other owners. I've a 60 plate XF 3.0s which went clatter clatter BANG and seized with utterly no warning. It seems the oil was contaminated with diesel and although the oil was indicating 'full' on the dash gauge it seems it was mostly diesel. A horrible experience!! Jaguar not interested, despite the Glasgow dealer (Taggarts, who were most helpful) attempting to negotiate on my behalf. It is now with a small engine rebuild company, The Engine Workshop in Dumfermlne, who are about to take on the job. The workshop is strewn with JLR 2.7 and 3.0 engines, the engineer explaining that he would have focused exclusively on these if he'd known how susceptible to failure they were. He gives a 24 month unlimited mileage warranty, so I'll keep you posted on the success ofl the repair"
I rest my case, again.
"I'm seeing similar stories from other owners. I've a 60 plate XF 3.0s which went clatter clatter BANG and seized with utterly no warning. It seems the oil was contaminated with diesel and although the oil was indicating 'full' on the dash gauge it seems it was mostly diesel. A horrible experience!! Jaguar not interested, despite the Glasgow dealer (Taggarts, who were most helpful) attempting to negotiate on my behalf. It is now with a small engine rebuild company, The Engine Workshop in Dumfermlne, who are about to take on the job. The workshop is strewn with JLR 2.7 and 3.0 engines, the engineer explaining that he would have focused exclusively on these if he'd known how susceptible to failure they were. He gives a 24 month unlimited mileage warranty, so I'll keep you posted on the success ofl the repair"
I rest my case, again.
The XJ has been around since 2010, that's some production run and it's long overdue a new model. I'm wondering if the delay is to do with the whole XE/XF/XJ split being too many models?
Reviews on the AA site seem to be quite happy as are in may other places. I guess like most cars you can find horror stories and you never know how they've been driven or looked after. I've given up expecting cars to be near faultless and accept the fact that money will need to be spent, so I may as well get a car I enjoy so it's less painful when the wallet opens. I've never owned an XJ btw.
Reviews on the AA site seem to be quite happy as are in may other places. I guess like most cars you can find horror stories and you never know how they've been driven or looked after. I've given up expecting cars to be near faultless and accept the fact that money will need to be spent, so I may as well get a car I enjoy so it's less painful when the wallet opens. I've never owned an XJ btw.
w824gb3 said:
Been running around in an XFS with the same 3.0d for the last 4 years & not had a single engine related issue or DPF warning.
The 300 engine wasn't in the XF 4 years ago. It was remapped for the X260.There are known issues for the 275 & 240 in the X250 too. Broken cranks stemming from diesel dilution.fatboy b said:
The 300 engine wasn't in the XF 4 years ago. It was remapped for the X260.There are known issues for the 275 & 240 in the X250 too. Broken cranks stemming from diesel dilution.
Isn't it still the same engine though?Although people probably shouldn't buy the diesel if they are going to do mainly short trips, I do think there should be some sort of display (for all cars) which tells you a regen is in progress so that you know not to switch off.
This would certainly help reduce problems, or even an option to display the dilution level so that you can take action and change the oil. Shouldn't be difficult as you can read the dilution rate using icarsoft.
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