4.2XKR or 5.0KX Coupe, which one to buy?
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Dear All,
Looking for some advice/recommendations from the experienced PH XK/XKR owners. Have recently discovered the joys of the XK/XKR, they really are tremendous cars. I have a budget of +/- £20k for a circa' 50k miles coupe, but am unsure which car to choose. I don't need the 500+bhp of the 5.0XKR which leaves the post 2006 4.2XKR or the 5.0XK, both have great pro's...and am struggling to find the con's of either car. 385bhp would be fine with the later interior, 420bhp with the glorious exhaust and inlet music of the supercharger is hugely tempting, but, which one to go for?
Have just missed this car which for its colour scheme and ultra-low mileage would be ideal https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Any/all recommendations greatly received.
Rgds
v8250
Looking for some advice/recommendations from the experienced PH XK/XKR owners. Have recently discovered the joys of the XK/XKR, they really are tremendous cars. I have a budget of +/- £20k for a circa' 50k miles coupe, but am unsure which car to choose. I don't need the 500+bhp of the 5.0XKR which leaves the post 2006 4.2XKR or the 5.0XK, both have great pro's...and am struggling to find the con's of either car. 385bhp would be fine with the later interior, 420bhp with the glorious exhaust and inlet music of the supercharger is hugely tempting, but, which one to go for?
Have just missed this car which for its colour scheme and ultra-low mileage would be ideal https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Any/all recommendations greatly received.
Rgds
v8250
The 5.0 litre isn't just a larger engine, it was an improved engine. There were also several detail changes to the car itself.
Overall the 5.0 litre was considered an improvement over the 4.2, as it should be.
Having said all of that there's not a lot wrong with the 4.2 and you should go for the individual car that most appeals to you.
Actually you should stop messing around and go for a 5.0 litre XKR
Overall the 5.0 litre was considered an improvement over the 4.2, as it should be.
Having said all of that there's not a lot wrong with the 4.2 and you should go for the individual car that most appeals to you.
Actually you should stop messing around and go for a 5.0 litre XKR
GoodOlBoy said:
The 5.0 litre isn't just a larger engine, it was an improved engine. There were also several detail changes to the car itself.
Overall the 5.0 litre was considered an improvement over the 4.2, as it should be.
Having said all of that there's not a lot wrong with the 4.2 and you should go for the individual car that most appeals to you.
Actually you should stop messing around and go for a 5.0 litre XKR
Thanks GoodOlBoy, you're not helping by encouraging me to go for the 5.0 XKR Overall the 5.0 litre was considered an improvement over the 4.2, as it should be.
Having said all of that there's not a lot wrong with the 4.2 and you should go for the individual car that most appeals to you.
Actually you should stop messing around and go for a 5.0 litre XKR
Interestingly, I was at Thruxton on Monday when a gent arrived in a brand new white 5.0 XFR, naturally we starting chatting. He said that he looked at the XFR, the Maserati and some of the larger BMW's. He test drove all three types noting the Jaguar came out on top as the best drivers saloon car. But the big decider for him was the running and servicing costs. £300 for annual servicing against nearly £3000 for the Maserati. The BMW dealers seemed all too keen to add wayward costs as they deemed necessary. I know of another BMW driver who was charged £1000 for a straight forward brake caliper refurb'.
v8250 said:
Simpo Two said:
Interior exactly the same as my 2006 XK 
I'd let the spec/appearance make your mind up.
And it's a stunning interior! Any idea as to the name of the blue paintwork? This paint/interior combination is just superb and am kicking myself for missing this car. I'd let the spec/appearance make your mind up. The later the car, the more likely it is to be black/grey/silver with cooker hood trim.Simpo Two said:
The advert says 'metallic frost blue'. As for the interior it's not that uncommon in earlier cars - the main facia is usually dark grey (caramel is the other option) and then you have either walnut trim or a nasty bit of old cooker hood The later the car, the more likely it is to be black/grey/silver with cooker hood trim.
Thanks Simpo, have spoken with the dealer re' above, it's gone. Dealer confirmed owner lived overseas with the car being in storage for most of its life. And in classic dealer speak, he said he could have sold the car ten times over. The later the car, the more likely it is to be black/grey/silver with cooker hood trim.One of the great points of this car is/was the interior. Old cooker hood does not appeal too much, though it wouldn't be too difficult to change to the more appealing walnut trim, especially with the blue/grey leather.
v8250 said:
Thanks Simpo, have spoken with the dealer re' above, it's gone. Dealer confirmed owner lived overseas with the car being in storage for most of its life. And in classic dealer speak, he said he could have sold the car ten times over.
Haha, 'never give up'. I was half way to seeing a boat when the phone rang and it was the broker telling me it had just been sold. Arse. Turn round and go home. But the next week I checked and it was still on their website. Laziness or....? I rang them; the buyer had pulled out due to his inheritance not being as large as hoped for. Captain Cash sprints to his car and gets the boat I've had both the 4.2 XK-R and the 5.0XK. The 5.0 was definitely the best, better sound, adaptive suspension, better handling - same good looks and just as fast.
I've a 3.0D XF-S now and the torque level is so impressive that it feels quicker than the XK, but in terms of looks, the XK wins every time! Enjoy whichever you decide on
I've a 3.0D XF-S now and the torque level is so impressive that it feels quicker than the XK, but in terms of looks, the XK wins every time! Enjoy whichever you decide on
CarbonXKR said:
I've had both the 4.2 XK-R and the 5.0XK. The 5.0 was definitely the best, better sound, adaptive suspension, better handling - same good looks and just as fast.
I've a 3.0D XF-S now and the torque level is so impressive that it feels quicker than the XK, but in terms of looks, the XK wins every time! Enjoy whichever you decide on
Thanks Carbon, I keep getting similar feedback from others. I'm going to keep an open mind as to whether I go for a 4.2KXR, 5.0XK or 5.0XKR. I do prefer the added body details on the XKR and am pretty sure it'll be a combination of paint colour, interior, service history, car condition and mileage that will swing it for me. I'm VERY fussy when buying cars and it needs to be a 99.99% example for me. I also enjoy the car buying process, meeting some really interesting folk...some of whom are now lifelong friends...seeing how excited they sometimes get over the car they're selling and...that 'feeling' one gets when one sees the car and just 'knows' it the right car. The great search continues...I've a 3.0D XF-S now and the torque level is so impressive that it feels quicker than the XK, but in terms of looks, the XK wins every time! Enjoy whichever you decide on
v8250 said:
Thanks GoodOlBoy, you're not helping by encouraging me to go for the 5.0 XKR
Interestingly, I was at Thruxton on Monday when a gent arrived in a brand new white 5.0 XFR, naturally we starting chatting. He said that he looked at the XFR, the Maserati and some of the larger BMW's. He test drove all three types noting the Jaguar came out on top as the best drivers saloon car. But the big decider for him was the running and servicing costs. £300 for annual servicing against nearly £3000 for the Maserati. The BMW dealers seemed all too keen to add wayward costs as they deemed necessary. I know of another BMW driver who was charged £1000 for a straight forward brake caliper refurb'.
Can't have been a new XFR - they've not put the 5 litre S/C V8 in the XF for a couple of years now. Maybe new to him? Or could have been an XF R-Sport - not a V8 beast.Interestingly, I was at Thruxton on Monday when a gent arrived in a brand new white 5.0 XFR, naturally we starting chatting. He said that he looked at the XFR, the Maserati and some of the larger BMW's. He test drove all three types noting the Jaguar came out on top as the best drivers saloon car. But the big decider for him was the running and servicing costs. £300 for annual servicing against nearly £3000 for the Maserati. The BMW dealers seemed all too keen to add wayward costs as they deemed necessary. I know of another BMW driver who was charged £1000 for a straight forward brake caliper refurb'.
It might be worthwhile reading up on timing chain issues on the 5.0, primarily related to the tensioner; not necessarily a major issue but more reports seem to be coming to light. To be fair, most I've heard of relate to Range Rovers but the engine is basically the same. Spec changed c2014 IIRC.
Both are great cars, I prefer the old 4.2 gearchange but could live with either. Try both, you might prefer one over the other when it comes to power delivery.
Both are great cars, I prefer the old 4.2 gearchange but could live with either. Try both, you might prefer one over the other when it comes to power delivery.
I replaced a 2006 4.2XK with a 2010 5.0XKR and exchanged slightly dodgy electrics and 35mpg with a sumptuously elegant 25mpg superbly reliable and comfortable car with a much better auto transmission.
The timing chain issue with the 5.0 ltr engine (if it was an issue and there was a suspicion about the oil used) seems to have died down. My engine has done 45k, an average of 10k each of the last 2 years I’ve had it, and is ok.
The 5.0XK has consumption not far off the 4.2XK but I assume you’re not bothered about that as the 4.2XKR is not much better than the 5.0XKR. However, my conclusion was, as have the 4.2XKR I’d rather have the 5.0XK. There’s not much difference in performance. It will be of course a newer car.
The timing chain issue with the 5.0 ltr engine (if it was an issue and there was a suspicion about the oil used) seems to have died down. My engine has done 45k, an average of 10k each of the last 2 years I’ve had it, and is ok.
The 5.0XK has consumption not far off the 4.2XK but I assume you’re not bothered about that as the 4.2XKR is not much better than the 5.0XKR. However, my conclusion was, as have the 4.2XKR I’d rather have the 5.0XK. There’s not much difference in performance. It will be of course a newer car.
There's an appearance difference too of course, both outside (notably the front lights) and inside (pop-up gear jobbie and chrome on the buttons). Personally I prefer the pre-facelift front; after that it starts looking a bit Marcos Mantis IMHO.
What's the secret to getting 35mpg from a 2006 XK?
What's the secret to getting 35mpg from a 2006 XK?
Simpo Two said:
What's the secret to getting 35mpg from a 2006 XK?
Stay just below 70 at about 1500rpm if I remember correctly.Some of the additional bling in later years is not too bad, and some of it eg black plastic inserts into the rear wheel arches are very worthwhile and will stop corrosion in a particularly susceptible area.
DouglasXK said:
Stay just below 70 at about 1500rpm if I remember correctly.
Wot and let everybody overtake me? Grr!DouglasXK said:
Some of the additional bling in later years is not too bad, and some of it eg black plastic inserts into the rear wheel arches are very worthwhile and will stop corrosion in a particularly susceptible area.
I think the later interior buttons are much better. I looked at a photo of the interior of my 2011 XF and in terms of quality it was streets ahead of the XK (shame about the rest of it though).Didn't know about the wheel arch inserts - are they retrofittable?
I have a 2012 XK 5.0 in Italian Racing Red. It is really lovely, and is all the car you'll ever need. But, sometimes, just sometimes, I do wonder whether I should have gone the extra mile and bought an XKR. Probably a good job I never tried one 
PS they do look amazing in red (any red) or the bright blues (Kyanite, Spectrum).
PS they do look amazing in red (any red) or the bright blues (Kyanite, Spectrum).
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