Jaguar F Pace - Diesel or Petrol
Discussion
Hi guys,
Im new to PH and wanted to get some of your opinions please.
Im planning on buying a Jaguar F Pace brand new and am pondering which engine to get between the diesel (240PS) and petrol (250PS).
I currently drive a Diesel Mercedes E250 Coupe 2014 plate, and my real MPG is 35.3 over the last 10,000 miles. I drive 6,500 miles per year.
I drive to and from work (22 miles total), with some weekend driving too. Mainly A & B roads with a max speed of 50mph.
As the price of the two engines only have a £200 difference through Jaguar, my main concern is fuel economy, and my goal is for the Fpace to either give the same real mpg as my current car, or ideally better.
The diesel stated mpg on the Jag website is good, but I wont get that out of it as not doing motorways.
the petrol stated mpg on the Jag website isnt as good as the diesel, but everyone is telling me to get petrol as I do under 10,000 miles a year.
Which do you guys think is better considering fuel economy? and any other factors that you would cosider.
Your help and advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Im new to PH and wanted to get some of your opinions please.
Im planning on buying a Jaguar F Pace brand new and am pondering which engine to get between the diesel (240PS) and petrol (250PS).
I currently drive a Diesel Mercedes E250 Coupe 2014 plate, and my real MPG is 35.3 over the last 10,000 miles. I drive 6,500 miles per year.
I drive to and from work (22 miles total), with some weekend driving too. Mainly A & B roads with a max speed of 50mph.
As the price of the two engines only have a £200 difference through Jaguar, my main concern is fuel economy, and my goal is for the Fpace to either give the same real mpg as my current car, or ideally better.
The diesel stated mpg on the Jag website is good, but I wont get that out of it as not doing motorways.
the petrol stated mpg on the Jag website isnt as good as the diesel, but everyone is telling me to get petrol as I do under 10,000 miles a year.
Which do you guys think is better considering fuel economy? and any other factors that you would cosider.
Your help and advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Cheers for the reply guys. Sorry if the below is a really dumb question...
Given that the engines are the same price but diesel gives better mpg, wouldnt it be better to get diesel regardless of how many miles I will be doing a year? Wouldnt it be cheaper for me as the diesel has a higher mpg?
Or is the petrol 38.2 mpg stated on the website 100% accurate for the miles/driving ill be doing in the real world?
Given that the engines are the same price but diesel gives better mpg, wouldnt it be better to get diesel regardless of how many miles I will be doing a year? Wouldnt it be cheaper for me as the diesel has a higher mpg?
Or is the petrol 38.2 mpg stated on the website 100% accurate for the miles/driving ill be doing in the real world?
Diesel engines are known to have issues when only doing low miles, as they don't fully warm up and it prevents the DPF from working properly, leading to potentially expensive problems further down the line.
If MPG is the only factor in your decision making then go for the diesel, it may be slightly better than the petrol even with your low mileage. You did however ask for 'any other factors that you would consider', and they have been listed above.
If MPG is the only factor in your decision making then go for the diesel, it may be slightly better than the petrol even with your low mileage. You did however ask for 'any other factors that you would consider', and they have been listed above.
Thanks Ian.
Final question...if the car is being leased/PCP for 4 years from brand new (delivery miles) and then the view is to give the car back after the 4 year period, would the DFP play a factor? Or would that be a problem much further down the line typically? Do you know if the clogging usually happens towards the beginning of engine life or later on in life?
My thinking is that I can benefit from the higher mpg of a diesel in the brand new car for 4 years, and then give it back before the DFP plays a part.
Or are you saying despite the latter, Petrol would still be the safer option?
Thanks so much for the replies
Final question...if the car is being leased/PCP for 4 years from brand new (delivery miles) and then the view is to give the car back after the 4 year period, would the DFP play a factor? Or would that be a problem much further down the line typically? Do you know if the clogging usually happens towards the beginning of engine life or later on in life?
My thinking is that I can benefit from the higher mpg of a diesel in the brand new car for 4 years, and then give it back before the DFP plays a part.
Or are you saying despite the latter, Petrol would still be the safer option?
Thanks so much for the replies
djashlondon said:
Cheers for the reply guys. Sorry if the below is a really dumb question...
Given that the engines are the same price but diesel gives better mpg, wouldnt it be better to get diesel regardless of how many miles I will be doing a year? Wouldnt it be cheaper for me as the diesel has a higher mpg?
Or is the petrol 38.2 mpg stated on the website 100% accurate for the miles/driving ill be doing in the real world?
I had the same dilemma with my XF I have just got, 24d or 25t. It really is head v's heart. Have you driven both? For me the smoother, quieter petrol won me over and yes financially the 24d would make sense but the 25t made the car feel so much better. Given that the engines are the same price but diesel gives better mpg, wouldnt it be better to get diesel regardless of how many miles I will be doing a year? Wouldnt it be cheaper for me as the diesel has a higher mpg?
Or is the petrol 38.2 mpg stated on the website 100% accurate for the miles/driving ill be doing in the real world?
djashlondon said:
Thanks Ian.
Final question...if the car is being leased/PCP for 4 years from brand new (delivery miles) and then the view is to give the car back after the 4 year period, would the DFP play a factor? Or would that be a problem much further down the line typically? Do you know if the clogging usually happens towards the beginning of engine life or later on in life?
My thinking is that I can benefit from the higher mpg of a diesel in the brand new car for 4 years, and then give it back before the DFP plays a part.
Or are you saying despite the latter, Petrol would still be the safer option?
Thanks so much for the replies
DPF issues can happen at any time. Final question...if the car is being leased/PCP for 4 years from brand new (delivery miles) and then the view is to give the car back after the 4 year period, would the DFP play a factor? Or would that be a problem much further down the line typically? Do you know if the clogging usually happens towards the beginning of engine life or later on in life?
My thinking is that I can benefit from the higher mpg of a diesel in the brand new car for 4 years, and then give it back before the DFP plays a part.
Or are you saying despite the latter, Petrol would still be the safer option?
Thanks so much for the replies
Petrol, the end.
Thanks stumpage said:
djashlondon said:
Cheers for the reply guys. Sorry if the below is a really dumb question...
Given that the engines are the same price but diesel gives better mpg, wouldnt it be better to get diesel regardless of how many miles I will be doing a year? Wouldnt it be cheaper for me as the diesel has a higher mpg?
Or is the petrol 38.2 mpg stated on the website 100% accurate for the miles/driving ill be doing in the real world?
I had the same dilemma with my XF I have just got, 24d or 25t. It really is head v's heart. Have you driven both? For me the smoother, quieter petrol won me over and yes financially the 24d would make sense but the 25t made the car feel so much better. Given that the engines are the same price but diesel gives better mpg, wouldnt it be better to get diesel regardless of how many miles I will be doing a year? Wouldnt it be cheaper for me as the diesel has a higher mpg?
Or is the petrol 38.2 mpg stated on the website 100% accurate for the miles/driving ill be doing in the real world?
Not an F Pace but I have a 3 month old XF 25t. It replaced a 530d that I'd had for 4 years.
The 530d used to achieve mid 40s. So far the XF is doing high 30s, 38/39 over a tankful, similar usage.
I bought the petrol because my mileage is falling a bit and because of the negative publicity directed at diesels. I’m pleased that I did because the engines a peach and seems to be capable of returning the published mpg, which the BMW didn’t. I occasionally notice the lack of torque but less and less so.
I would strongly advise the petrol, regardless of your annual mileage.
The 530d used to achieve mid 40s. So far the XF is doing high 30s, 38/39 over a tankful, similar usage.
I bought the petrol because my mileage is falling a bit and because of the negative publicity directed at diesels. I’m pleased that I did because the engines a peach and seems to be capable of returning the published mpg, which the BMW didn’t. I occasionally notice the lack of torque but less and less so.
I would strongly advise the petrol, regardless of your annual mileage.
P380, stop messing around....
The 25t is fine, but Jags need a 6 or 8cyl engine. The P380 fuel burn comapared to the 25t over 6.5k miles won’t be noticeable, but the fun factor is priceless.
Buy a pre-reg/almost new and save the cash towards your fuel bill, plus you can dodge the new reg tax on cars over £40k....
The 25t is fine, but Jags need a 6 or 8cyl engine. The P380 fuel burn comapared to the 25t over 6.5k miles won’t be noticeable, but the fun factor is priceless.
Buy a pre-reg/almost new and save the cash towards your fuel bill, plus you can dodge the new reg tax on cars over £40k....
Edited by Triple7 on Tuesday 20th March 19:50
Triple7 said:
P380, stop messing around....
The 25t is fine, but Jags need a 6 or 8cyl engine. The P380 fuel burn comapared to the 25t over 6.5k miles won’t be noticeable, but the fun factor is priceless.
Buy a pre-reg/almost new and save the cash towards your fuel bill, plus you can dodge the new reg tax on cars over £40k....
The 25t is fine, but Jags need a 6 or 8cyl engine. The P380 fuel burn comapared to the 25t over 6.5k miles won’t be noticeable, but the fun factor is priceless.
Buy a pre-reg/almost new and save the cash towards your fuel bill, plus you can dodge the new reg tax on cars over £40k....
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 20th March 19:50
A fair point but most won’t know the difference most of the time.
Not sure how you'd beat the new £40k tax though, unless you got a 12 month old car?
I bought the 250bhp petrol a year ago and love it. I get long term 26.5 mpg on mostly motorway driving. If you drove carefully you could do much better I expect.
Jaguar have since launched a 300bhp version of the same engine. That might be worth considering? Although I am thinking of getting my car re-mapped to 300bhp by an after market garage. Has anyone any advice or recommendations of good mapper near Watford?
This is my first post so sorry if have this wrong. Thanks
Jaguar have since launched a 300bhp version of the same engine. That might be worth considering? Although I am thinking of getting my car re-mapped to 300bhp by an after market garage. Has anyone any advice or recommendations of good mapper near Watford?
This is my first post so sorry if have this wrong. Thanks
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