Is 180-200BHP too much for a new driver?

Is 180-200BHP too much for a new driver?

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Garnettoi71

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6 posts

79 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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I'm hoping to buy a Jaguar XF 2.2 as my first car and I'm able to afford the insurance and other costs associated with owning this kind of car. My only concern is if it would be too powerful for a new driver?

J8 SVG

1,468 posts

135 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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It's only as fast as your right foot makes it..

liner33

10,755 posts

207 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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The size and weight would be as much of an issue as the power imo. I dont think an XF would make a good car for an inexperienced driver personally

Garnettoi71

Original Poster:

6 posts

79 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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J8 SVG said:
It's only as fast as your right foot makes it..
That is also very true, I'd be driving it very carefully

OGR4M

856 posts

158 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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My first car has ~65bhp (jealous much?) and that felt fine as my first car - I’m on my 7th car now, a 3.0 XJ with 271, and that feels fine, too.

I can’t help but feel that, whilst the XF is a fantastic vehicle, and as first cars go that’s an amazing opportunity which you’ve given yourself, I don’t know if I would.

Well aware that autos are exploding in popularity these days, love mine - and mine’s the 6, rather than your potential (and much better) 8, but when I was new to driving nearly 10 years ago, I wanted nothing more than a throaty carb and a 4-speed manual. It was great fun on a twisty b-road managing to keep up with a much more powerful car because their power meant nothing on such a small width of tarmac, where a 700kg 80s hatchback can maintain as high a speed.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d have given one of my hearts to own a big jag for my first car, but don’t you think it’ll spoil you? I always looked forward to an upgrade whenever I managed it, but how do you upgrade from a big jag? (Unless you were involved in the Hatton Garden raid, maybe that’s how you can afford the insurance scratchchin )

Garnettoi71

Original Poster:

6 posts

79 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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OGR4M said:
My first car has ~65bhp (jealous much?) and that felt fine as my first car - I’m on my 7th car now, a 3.0 XJ with 271, and that feels fine, too.

I can’t help but feel that, whilst the XF is a fantastic vehicle, and as first cars go that’s an amazing opportunity which you’ve given yourself, I don’t know if I would.

Well aware that autos are exploding in popularity these days, love mine - and mine’s the 6, rather than your potential (and much better) 8, but when I was new to driving nearly 10 years ago, I wanted nothing more than a throaty carb and a 4-speed manual. It was great fun on a twisty b-road managing to keep up with a much more powerful car because their power meant nothing on such a small width of tarmac, where a 700kg 80s hatchback can maintain as high a speed.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d have given one of my hearts to own a big jag for my first car, but don’t you think it’ll spoil you? I always looked forward to an upgrade whenever I managed it, but how do you upgrade from a big jag? (Unless you were involved in the Hatton Garden raid, maybe that’s how you can afford the insurance scratchchin )
I understand what you mean about the different driving experiences. Driving in a smaller manual would no doubt be more fun, however the first cars most people buy don't really carry a lot of prestige, certainly not as much as the jaguar brand does. I know it's quite a shallow way of looking at cars and at life in general, but I'm a bit of a flashy 23 year old. Your last sentence made me laugh smile

Simpo Two

86,607 posts

270 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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OGR4M said:
Don’t get me wrong, I’d have given one of my hearts to own a big jag for my first car, but don’t you think it’ll spoil you? I always looked forward to an upgrade whenever I managed it, but how do you upgrade from a big jag?
I wouldn't call a 2.2 XF a 'big Jag', though plenty big enough for a first car. There are plenty of bigger, faster, more expensive cars to upgrade to after it.

I say - go for it. If you don't like it it can always be sold, and you've ticked the box. When you're 50 you'll be comparing 'first cars' with your friends... XF will win over their Kas, Foci etc.

mcg_

1,445 posts

97 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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You'll crash it no matter the power, so may as well do it in something pricey I guess

Garnettoi71

Original Poster:

6 posts

79 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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mcg_ said:
You'll crash it no matter the power, so may as well do it in something pricey I guess
Loving the vote of confidence here ;-)

Ex Boy Racer

1,152 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Spend less (much less) on the car and use what you save for drinking/womanising/travelling/dancing

You'll thank me one day

Simpo Two

86,607 posts

270 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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mcg_ said:
You'll crash it no matter the power, so may as well do it in something pricey I guess
I'm inclined to agree with the first part; everyone has one good accident in them and you don't know where the edges are until you step over them. That's a wonder of a system that can send you out as a fully qualified driver but perhaps never having gone over 30mph.

Second part - if you are going to smash something up, maybe better to do it in a cheap car.



Ex Boy Racer said:
Spend less (much less) on the car and use what you save for property/savings/investments

You'll thank me one day
EFA. Cars go down, the rest go up.



Garnettoi71

Original Poster:

6 posts

79 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Simpo Two said:
EFA. Cars go down, the rest go up.
If I crash then I'll pay the price, it's as simple as that.

V88Dicky

7,318 posts

188 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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You'll be ok, that engine is fine in some of its other applications, without modern driver aids wink