XKR-S v F-Type v 4.3 Vantage
Discussion
macar said:
£ 50k, what to get for Sunday hoon's and the occasional jaunts to the Highlands and Europe with the Mrs. Fancy a French Blue XKR-S, but also like the look of the F Type and 4.3 Vantage.
Any opinions (depreciation/running costs) or feed back on what to look for appreciated
Any opinions (depreciation/running costs) or feed back on what to look for appreciated
Persoanlly, XKR-S in French Blue might well be a future classic, and they are rare (ish) Aston no doubt the best investment, i'm sure £50K would get you a good 4.7 rather than the 4.3.
F-Type, i'm not sure, too many about to be the best investment, but a superb car no doubt of that, far too many in black/silver/red and against the French Blue XKR-S no comparison really, new ones could be ordered in the same colour but they depreciate fairly badly it seems, or at least the V8's have done.
If it was my money i'd go Aston it'll feel the most special. and a close 2nd the XKR-S which will be much quicker than the Aston.
Its a good choice to have though, enjoy.
Andy
I had a similar dilemma last year, and went for the XKR-S in blue.
The F-Type is a great car, but one factor in my decision was that the XKR-S is no longer made and is quite rare anyway, so I wanted to get a fairly new one while I still could, whereas there will be plenty of F-Types available for years to come.
The Aston is also very appealing, but for similar money you get a lot more performance with the XKR-S. And in blue with the carbon bits it looks stunning, so I don't think it loses out on looks either. And it certainly doesn't lose out on the noise, which is fantastic!
It's perfect for European trips - lots of storage space, and a relaxing drive when you're wafting down the motorway.
I don't think there are many known issues with them, and I'm hoping that due to the scarcity they won't depreciate too much. A few people consider them as future classics, so hopefully this will benefit values in the long term.
The F-Type is a great car, but one factor in my decision was that the XKR-S is no longer made and is quite rare anyway, so I wanted to get a fairly new one while I still could, whereas there will be plenty of F-Types available for years to come.
The Aston is also very appealing, but for similar money you get a lot more performance with the XKR-S. And in blue with the carbon bits it looks stunning, so I don't think it loses out on looks either. And it certainly doesn't lose out on the noise, which is fantastic!
It's perfect for European trips - lots of storage space, and a relaxing drive when you're wafting down the motorway.
I don't think there are many known issues with them, and I'm hoping that due to the scarcity they won't depreciate too much. A few people consider them as future classics, so hopefully this will benefit values in the long term.
I also had a XKR-S on the radar, and then I drove one
Far too GT for my liking
So I bought a F-TYPE - which is more Sports car
So it depends what you are after
GT = XKR-S
Sports car = F-TYPE
to be fair, a 2011/12 XKR-S with decent mileage conditon is c.£50-£55k
a 2014 F-TYPE R is c.£60k
The F-TYPE represents a ton more value IMO
XKR-S pricing have not really moved a great deal in the last 12 months, but for me F-TYPE R > XKR-S at the same price point
Far too GT for my liking
So I bought a F-TYPE - which is more Sports car
So it depends what you are after
GT = XKR-S
Sports car = F-TYPE
to be fair, a 2011/12 XKR-S with decent mileage conditon is c.£50-£55k
a 2014 F-TYPE R is c.£60k
The F-TYPE represents a ton more value IMO
XKR-S pricing have not really moved a great deal in the last 12 months, but for me F-TYPE R > XKR-S at the same price point
akadk said:
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XKR-S pricing have not really moved a great deal in the last 12 months....
But, if you look around the dealers and independents - they're not exactly flying out of the showrooms, are they ?......
XKR-S pricing have not really moved a great deal in the last 12 months....
There are cars which have languished on the forecourts for near six months, so that suggests to me Jaguar are artificially "supporting" their values by holding-on to stock for too long.
The same goes for the Dynamic R, too (and late 2014 XKR, for that matter). It's a lot of heavy metal a dealer has to carry and my guess is that it's a poor attempt to maintain residuals for the PCP-brigade.
They're a beautiful car, in an extraordinarily tight niche sector of the market, which I'm not sure Jaguar fully understands. Or, maybe they don't understand their customers ?
An Aston Martin is likely to cost a lot more in servicing (I heard circa £800 for a basic service from a main dealer, could be wrong though) than either of those Jaguars. If that's not a concern then have you thought about a Maserati Granturismo? I have an XKR which I love, about the only two things that could tempt me out of it would be an XKR-S or a Maser GranTurismo. £40k would get you a nice one and keep the remainder for bork fund.
To answer your actual question though, I'd pick the XKR-S out of those three - just a slightly better all-rounder, I suspect the other two might feel a bit too firm and sporty for the longer cruises.
Just my tuppence-worth though, go drive some - the proof of the pudding etc. etc.
To answer your actual question though, I'd pick the XKR-S out of those three - just a slightly better all-rounder, I suspect the other two might feel a bit too firm and sporty for the longer cruises.
Just my tuppence-worth though, go drive some - the proof of the pudding etc. etc.
Interesting debate. I was in exactly the same boat last year although didn't consider the XKR.
In the end I plumped for a Aston Martin V8 vantage roadster (4.3 manual) and to be honest was completely underwhelmed with the car after just a couple of months. It felt underpowered, very heavy and just not enjoyable to drive.
So last month I sold it and on Thursday last week I bought a V8 Ftype convertible and I've got to say the difference is night and day.The Jaguar without doubt makes the Aston Martin feel antique in every way, good friend of mine summed it up at the weekend saying that in comparison he felt the Aston Martin performed like a 1990's convertible with rather poor handling and uncomfortable scuttle shake. On the other hand the same friend was blown away with the usability of the V8 F-type.
Don't get me wrong, I thought the Aston Martin looked lovely, but looks alone which is not enough to warrant keeping
If however the decision is based on cost, by this I mean depreciation, the safe bet would be the Aston Martin. My sold mine after 7 months and made a very healthy profit, I can't see the same happening with the F-type although in fairness the one I've just got his ridiculously low mileage, so I'm hoping has at least some chance of retaining value but I'd rather have it than the Aston Martin any day of the week
In the end I plumped for a Aston Martin V8 vantage roadster (4.3 manual) and to be honest was completely underwhelmed with the car after just a couple of months. It felt underpowered, very heavy and just not enjoyable to drive.
So last month I sold it and on Thursday last week I bought a V8 Ftype convertible and I've got to say the difference is night and day.The Jaguar without doubt makes the Aston Martin feel antique in every way, good friend of mine summed it up at the weekend saying that in comparison he felt the Aston Martin performed like a 1990's convertible with rather poor handling and uncomfortable scuttle shake. On the other hand the same friend was blown away with the usability of the V8 F-type.
Don't get me wrong, I thought the Aston Martin looked lovely, but looks alone which is not enough to warrant keeping
If however the decision is based on cost, by this I mean depreciation, the safe bet would be the Aston Martin. My sold mine after 7 months and made a very healthy profit, I can't see the same happening with the F-type although in fairness the one I've just got his ridiculously low mileage, so I'm hoping has at least some chance of retaining value but I'd rather have it than the Aston Martin any day of the week
I've just had an F-Type 3.0 S for a day, so thought you might be interested to see how I thought it compared to my XKR-S.
Going from the XK to the F-Type, I was slightly disappointed as the interior isn't as nicely finished (it's more plasticky in places although it's still a nice interior), and I wasn't so keen on the exhaust note at first - although this eventually grew on me. The 3.0 felt noticeably slower than mine, but that's to be expected with "only" 380 bhp vs 550. I'm sure the 5.0V8 F-Type would have similar performance to the XKR-S.
The ride on the F-Type is stiffer - it seems like you can feel every bump in the road, and it's like driving a roller skate. You also sit lower in the car, so feel more part of it. Going back to my XK afterwards, it felt like I was driving a greenhouse due to the higher seating position and more glass area - you're much more enclosed in the F-Type, and while the visibility isn't bad, it's not as good as in the XK.
The F-Type is still a big car, but is shorter than the XK, and feels a bit smaller when you're driving it. The F-Type has a nice solid feel to it, and is fun to throw around. It does however lack storage space - there are a couple of storage bins in the cabin, but not much else.
The XK ride has more compliance, and while not quite as sporty is still pretty stiff and I've never thought it was too soft when pushing on.
The XK also shows its age inside - the cabin of the F-Type is more modern, and has a better computer system/sat nav etc... The XK one does the job, but is pretty basic these days.
For me, the XKR-S is the perfect car for 2 week driving holiday down to Monaco via the Alps, whereas the F-Type is what I'd choose for a day blatting around the countryside. I'm still happy with my choice, but both are great cars.
Going from the XK to the F-Type, I was slightly disappointed as the interior isn't as nicely finished (it's more plasticky in places although it's still a nice interior), and I wasn't so keen on the exhaust note at first - although this eventually grew on me. The 3.0 felt noticeably slower than mine, but that's to be expected with "only" 380 bhp vs 550. I'm sure the 5.0V8 F-Type would have similar performance to the XKR-S.
The ride on the F-Type is stiffer - it seems like you can feel every bump in the road, and it's like driving a roller skate. You also sit lower in the car, so feel more part of it. Going back to my XK afterwards, it felt like I was driving a greenhouse due to the higher seating position and more glass area - you're much more enclosed in the F-Type, and while the visibility isn't bad, it's not as good as in the XK.
The F-Type is still a big car, but is shorter than the XK, and feels a bit smaller when you're driving it. The F-Type has a nice solid feel to it, and is fun to throw around. It does however lack storage space - there are a couple of storage bins in the cabin, but not much else.
The XK ride has more compliance, and while not quite as sporty is still pretty stiff and I've never thought it was too soft when pushing on.
The XK also shows its age inside - the cabin of the F-Type is more modern, and has a better computer system/sat nav etc... The XK one does the job, but is pretty basic these days.
For me, the XKR-S is the perfect car for 2 week driving holiday down to Monaco via the Alps, whereas the F-Type is what I'd choose for a day blatting around the countryside. I'm still happy with my choice, but both are great cars.
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