F Type switchable exhaust
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Dazza N said:
Hi
Currently got a F type 3.0 S coupe on loan from JLR and very impressed
Does anyone know if the 2013 convertible S came as standard with the switchable exhaust ?
I'm afraid the simple answer is NO.Currently got a F type 3.0 S coupe on loan from JLR and very impressed
Does anyone know if the 2013 convertible S came as standard with the switchable exhaust ?
The switchable exhaust was an option at that time ( I don't know if this has changed on later models).
I've just been reading a buyers guide article in a Jaguar enthusiast magazine which has also got the above fact wrong, it seems to imply that all sports exhausts are self switchable which isn't the case unless it has the switch option as well as the active exhaust.
I spent a few days in an F type S, fitted with the switchable active exhaust and tried experimenting with leading the switch off or switching it on and it does make a huge difference to the noise the car makes. So much shall I wouldn't buy one without it.
There is a really easy visual way to tell, the button immediately below the gear stick on a standard car is a single button, but with the switchable exhaust that button is split into 2 separate buttons, one of them has a little exhaust logo on it.
Hmm...
On the V6S, there are "Active", and "Switchable" exhausts. They are both active exhausts, but the latter has a switch on the centre console so you can open it when you feel like it, rather than when the ECU decides (based on throttle position, and engine RPM).
The "easy visual check" of whether your car has an "active" exhaust is to look at the back box and check on whether the two pipes running under the car go straight into it, or whether they split just in front of the back box into four pipes with a valve mechanism on the extra two pipes.
On the base model there used to be a passive exhaust with just the two inlet pipes to back box. "Active"/"switchable" were additional cost Options.
HTH
On the V6S, there are "Active", and "Switchable" exhausts. They are both active exhausts, but the latter has a switch on the centre console so you can open it when you feel like it, rather than when the ECU decides (based on throttle position, and engine RPM).
The "easy visual check" of whether your car has an "active" exhaust is to look at the back box and check on whether the two pipes running under the car go straight into it, or whether they split just in front of the back box into four pipes with a valve mechanism on the extra two pipes.
On the base model there used to be a passive exhaust with just the two inlet pipes to back box. "Active"/"switchable" were additional cost Options.
HTH
Edited by ftypical on Monday 7th March 18:53
JetskiJezz said:
Dazza N said:
Hi
Currently got a F type 3.0 S coupe on loan from JLR and very impressed
Does anyone know if the 2013 convertible S came as standard with the switchable exhaust ?
I'm afraid the simple answer is NO.Currently got a F type 3.0 S coupe on loan from JLR and very impressed
Does anyone know if the 2013 convertible S came as standard with the switchable exhaust ?
The switchable exhaust was an option at that time ( I don't know if this has changed on later models).
I've just been reading a buyers guide article in a Jaguar enthusiast magazine which has also got the above fact wrong, it seems to imply that all sports exhausts are self switchable which isn't the case unless it has the switch option as well as the active exhaust.
I spent a few days in an F type S, fitted with the switchable active exhaust and tried experimenting with leading the switch off or switching it on and it does make a huge difference to the noise the car makes. So much shall I wouldn't buy one without it.
There is a really easy visual way to tell, the button immediately below the gear stick on a standard car is a single button, but with the switchable exhaust that button is split into 2 separate buttons, one of them has a little exhaust logo on it.
Okay, I'll try again:
It is possible to have a switchable exhaust, but no switch on the centre console on any V6 model. It will open and close as the ECU sees fit.
It is possible to have a switchable exhaust with a switch on the centre console on any V6 model. In addition to the above, you can choose to open it when you feel like.
It is also possible to have an exhaust which isn't switchable at all - with or without a switch on the centre console - on the base V6. Apocryphally, this may be louder than the switchable exhaust when closed.
The only way to be certain is to look at the front of the back box.
It is possible to have a switchable exhaust, but no switch on the centre console on any V6 model. It will open and close as the ECU sees fit.
It is possible to have a switchable exhaust with a switch on the centre console on any V6 model. In addition to the above, you can choose to open it when you feel like.
It is also possible to have an exhaust which isn't switchable at all - with or without a switch on the centre console - on the base V6. Apocryphally, this may be louder than the switchable exhaust when closed.
The only way to be certain is to look at the front of the back box.
ftypical said:
Okay, I'll try again:
It is possible to have a switchable exhaust, but no switch on the centre console on any V6 model. It will open and close as the ECU sees fit.
It is possible to have a switchable exhaust with a switch on the centre console on any V6 model. In addition to the above, you can choose to open it when you feel like.
It is also possible to have an exhaust which isn't switchable at all - with or without a switch on the centre console - on the base V6. Apocryphally, this may be louder than the switchable exhaust when closed.
The only way to be certain is to look at the front of the back box.
Your confusing matters with your description,It is possible to have a switchable exhaust, but no switch on the centre console on any V6 model. It will open and close as the ECU sees fit.
It is possible to have a switchable exhaust with a switch on the centre console on any V6 model. In addition to the above, you can choose to open it when you feel like.
It is also possible to have an exhaust which isn't switchable at all - with or without a switch on the centre console - on the base V6. Apocryphally, this may be louder than the switchable exhaust when closed.
The only way to be certain is to look at the front of the back box.
Your first paragraph here refers to 'active exhaust' where it opens itself during hard acceleration.
Your second paragraph defines the 'switchable' exhaust by... well, having a switch. Which is what we were saying?
God knows why you would crouch down and look under the car when you can see the switch next to the gear lever in the car?
GTD40 said:
Jag dealer stated they could retrofit the switch for exhaust on S models, for approx £400.
Is this true? I spoke to one of the guys from Jaguar research and development shortly after the F type was launched and he was absolutely certain you couldn't just retrofit the switch.Does anyone on here know of anyone that have this done or anywhere I can find some more information on it?
It's just that when I do finally start looking for a car, I know for certain it's got to have the switch - it might make the choice a little bit easier if the switch can be retrofitted.
elementad said:
Your confusing matters with your description,
Your first paragraph here refers to 'active exhaust' where it opens itself during hard acceleration.
Your second paragraph defines the 'switchable' exhaust by... well, having a switch. Which is what we were saying?
God knows why you would crouch down and look under the car when you can see the switch next to the gear lever in the car?
To you - perhaps. Your first paragraph here refers to 'active exhaust' where it opens itself during hard acceleration.
Your second paragraph defines the 'switchable' exhaust by... well, having a switch. Which is what we were saying?
God knows why you would crouch down and look under the car when you can see the switch next to the gear lever in the car?
See my first post. The only difference between the Active and Switchable exhaust is the switch. The plumbing and wiring are identical.
HTH
ftypical said:
elementad said:
Your confusing matters with your description,
Your first paragraph here refers to 'active exhaust' where it opens itself during hard acceleration.
Your second paragraph defines the 'switchable' exhaust by... well, having a switch. Which is what we were saying?
God knows why you would crouch down and look under the car when you can see the switch next to the gear lever in the car?
To you - perhaps. Your first paragraph here refers to 'active exhaust' where it opens itself during hard acceleration.
Your second paragraph defines the 'switchable' exhaust by... well, having a switch. Which is what we were saying?
God knows why you would crouch down and look under the car when you can see the switch next to the gear lever in the car?
See my first post. The only difference between the Active and Switchable exhaust is the switch. The plumbing and wiring are identical.
HTH
Because the absence of the switch may or may not mean he has the switchable exhaust. £400 to fit a £35 switch will give him a fully switchable exhaust if his car has the switchable plumbing.
If it doesn't, he's looking at £2-3k to add same, because he'll have to buy the whole system.
Cars with the switchable plumbing but no switch will still switch between quiet and loud as you drive them, while cars without the plumbing will be somewhere in between the whole time.
So, if you want to know what you've actually got, and how much it might cost to upgrade, looking at the plumbing is the only way to be sure.
HTH
If it doesn't, he's looking at £2-3k to add same, because he'll have to buy the whole system.
Cars with the switchable plumbing but no switch will still switch between quiet and loud as you drive them, while cars without the plumbing will be somewhere in between the whole time.
So, if you want to know what you've actually got, and how much it might cost to upgrade, looking at the plumbing is the only way to be sure.
HTH
ftypical said:
You're not really getting the hang the difference between having a switch and having a switchable exhaust, are you.
I get it, but I've no idea why your talking about it,The OP asked if all 'S' models included 'the switch' for manually controlling the exhaust,
Answer is ALL 'S' models have the 'Active exhaust' standard.
The 'switch' is optional extra.
NON 'S' models don't have either the above as standard.
I don't know why your explaining about plumbing as if the OP was looking at an S model in the first place (which was his question) then extra plumbing for active exhaust doesn't even enter the equation. It's already there as standard. Furthermore he wouldn't need to follow your advise by getting on his hands and knees and looking underneath a car. He COULD but I would hedge the bet he would rather look next to the gear shift to see if that particular S model had the switch for the manual exhaust control on the console or not.
I'm guessing you don't have the switch?
ftypical said:
You're not really getting the hang the difference between having a switch and having a switchable exhaust, are you.
For even more clarity I post picture below from a more recent brochure which illustrates how jaguar themselves distinguish between the two options. They do not call the active exhaust 'switchable' (as you do) as this would confuse people into thinking that it includes the switch. As I said. You have 'active exhaust' and then the 'switchable' exhaust (yes, with the switch).
elementad said:
ftypical said:
You're not really getting the hang the difference between having a switch and having a switchable exhaust, are you.
For even more clarity I post picture below from a more recent brochure which illustrates how jaguar themselves distinguish between the two options. They do not call the active exhaust 'switchable' (as you do) as this would confuse people into thinking that it includes the switch. As I said. You have 'active exhaust' and then the 'switchable' exhaust (yes, with the switch).
When the cars were launched in 2013, the "active exhaust" was not a standard feature on all Jaguar F types as it's suggesting in your sales details, at some point it became a standard feature, but not in 2013.
Therefore if the OP was looking at a non- "S" with absolutely standard specification then it wouldn't have the "active exhaust" and it definitely them wouldn't have the "switchable active exhaust".
GTD40 said:
Jag dealer stated they could retrofit the switch for exhaust on S models, for approx £400.
Sorry guys, just repeat my previous question. Is anyone have a retro fit switch as noted above - I would love to know a bit more about exact costs and how this would work, so if anyone could shed any light onto this I would be really grateful.JetskiJezz said:
elementad said:
ftypical said:
You're not really getting the hang the difference between having a switch and having a switchable exhaust, are you.
For even more clarity I post picture below from a more recent brochure which illustrates how jaguar themselves distinguish between the two options. They do not call the active exhaust 'switchable' (as you do) as this would confuse people into thinking that it includes the switch. As I said. You have 'active exhaust' and then the 'switchable' exhaust (yes, with the switch).
When the cars were launched in 2013, the "active exhaust" was not a standard feature on all Jaguar F types as it's suggesting in your sales details, at some point it became a standard feature, but not in 2013.
Therefore if the OP was looking at a non- "S" with absolutely standard specification then it wouldn't have the "active exhaust" and it definitely them wouldn't have the "switchable active exhaust".
The quote you have mentioned was referencing to FTypical that 'switchable active exhaust' means the active exhaust AND manual switch, where he was suggesting 'active exhaust' is switchable... because it opens upon high revs/ecu control.
THAT is quite confusing and probably why Jaguar describe the two differently.
Let's be clear.
OP was asking about 2013 'S' model cars
He was asking about 'switchable exhaust'
That spec is 'Switchable active exhaust' and there is no need to look at any plumbing - just the switch
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