x type - which one to buy?

[Count Vampirski]

with an end price budget max of c £3k, I am weighing up pros and cons of 2 diesel sizes.
Also unclear what a Euro 4 is and why dealers push the point

I think 2.2s start c 2005 from c £2.9k - is there any advantage spending more on a 2006-2008?

I may be tempted to enhance the exhaust flow and re-map and welcome advice on doing this to a budget

Is the DMF up to 25% more power or is auto better, if so does box spec improve fro 05 to 07 prior to very last model release - I prefer manual as they are cheap to exchange should they fail

Does stripping out some of emission stuff offer much advantage when re-mapped? - What should come out? Partic. filter, CATs, some silencers? - Any cheap freeflow system avail?

Ways of re-mapping?

thx

[Andy665]

Does it have to be diesel?

[w824gb3]

You want a pre facelift 2.2d manual. No DPF & no electic motor gear driven egr. The cat can be removed. The only auto's were the last 2.2d's but they are saddled with the above mentioned emmisions stuff. I had a 55plate for 8 years & loved it. No big issues in all that time.

[Count Vampirski]

hmmm, interesting - so a 2.2d is avail withoutthe non 2.0 additional emission equip? - so how best to identify and be sure? - eg why do dealers push fact car is a Euro 4 - thats bad isnt it and also pre 08 facelift?

I would be happy with a 2.2 around 2005, could you please tie it down further

[w824gb3]

Safest way is to open the bonnet & look at the egr valve. Its easily seen on the top left front of engine as viewed from the front. If it has a vacuum pipe (plus sensor wire) going to it then the car does not have a dpf. If the egr has only wiring to it and a big gearbox on the side then it does. I think most pre facelift 2.2s do not have this extra junk unless it was added as an optional extra at time of purchase. It was standard after the facelift as far as i know.

[daemon]

Count Vampirski said:

with an end price budget max of c £3k, I am weighing up pros and cons of 2 diesel sizes.
Also unclear what a Euro 4 is and why dealers push the point

I think 2.2s start c 2005 from c £2.9k - is there any advantage spending more on a 2006-2008?

I may be tempted to enhance the exhaust flow and re-map and welcome advice on doing this to a budget

Is the DMF up to 25% more power or is auto better, if so does box spec improve fro 05 to 07 prior to very last model release - I prefer manual as they are cheap to exchange should they fail

Does stripping out some of emission stuff offer much advantage when re-mapped? - What should come out? Partic. filter, CATs, some silencers? - Any cheap freeflow system avail?

Ways of re-mapping?

thx

I've just bought a September 2005 X Type 2.2D Sport estate for exactly that price £2900.

I "think" its a non electric EGR valve, but i'll check when i get home.

Decent enough car. Not fantastic.

What i would say to look out for - and i gloriously missed on mine -

> check the parking sensors are working if fitted.
> check the cd player works - mine accepts a CD, just doesnt bother playing it.
> check the radio works - mine only tunes to extremely strong signals so i suspect a rusty contact somewhere
> check the trip computer works - end of LH indicator stalk - mine doesnt but seems to be a common ish fault
> check the DMF. Listen for noises when you release the clutch and its been sitting a minute or two. See if the noises change when you engage the clutch. (all good on mine though clutch pedal bite is a little low)
> check the alloy wheel condition - budget £300 for a refurb
> check the front fog lights - they are low and recessed buy prone to being broken by stones ("OEM" new ones on ebay £20 each)
> the window strips on the rear doors (and on the estates windows) rot from underneath. Easy fix but prob £40 a window.
> check wear on insides of tyres - common for the outside to be good but the inner edge to have worn (esp on bigger wheels)
> Alloy wheel centre caps fade but are £7.50 on ebay.
> Rear calipers can stick, though they're not a fortune to replace. I guess check for even disc wear.

If i had to do it again, i'd probably have went for a petrol one (have had a couple of petrol X Types in the past and theres more of a sense of occasion with them and the diesel is rattly when cold)

Remapping - i'd probably stick a tuning box on mine if i was doing anything - adjustable and removable. Cant see me bothering though as its quite sharp as is and its not the sort of car i would want to be travelling close to its limits in.

Anyways, pic of mine....

Edited by daemon on Saturday 13th June 19:23

[daemon]

Andy665 said:

Does it have to be diesel?

Speaking as someone who owns the diesel, i'd ask the same question. v6 is much nicer in them.

[SPS]

daemon said:

Andy665 said:

Does it have to be diesel?

Speaking as someone who owns the diesel, i'd ask the same question. v6 is much nicer in them.

I had a 3 ltr Sport - loved it. Had it from new for three years and covered over 90K miles. No major issues other than getting back from London via the train late one Winters night found that the number plate had fallen off on my way to the station a couple of days previously. Apart from that "major incident" just brilliant.