I'm buying a Jag...but which one?

I'm buying a Jag...but which one?

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alexkp

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16,484 posts

251 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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I've decided to buy a Jagwarrrr. The TVR is staying, so it doesn't have to be mega quick - but lively would be nice. It will be for a short daily commute.

But I'm in two or three minds:

An S-Type Sport 3.0V6
An S-Type 4.0V8
An X-Type Sport 3.0V6
An X-Type Sport 2.5V6

The X-Type is 4WD, the S-Type RWD.

Any opinions? Who's driven or been in some, or knows of other's experiences?

pmanson

13,387 posts

260 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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I prefer the look of the x-type. Saying that the S-TypeR is stunning.

Go for the x-type with the sports pack.

vixpy1

42,676 posts

271 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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X-type is a ford Mondeo..

Go for the V8 S-type!

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

241 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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2nd hand XKR all the way tbh!

alexkp

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251 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Gazboy said:

vixpy1 said:
X-type is a ford Mondeo..




The porsche 356 was a VW Beetle in a rather tasty bodyshell, look what that became...


btw- Alex, 4.0 S type (or XK8/R)


It needs to be four door, so that rules out the XK8.
The XJR is very nice - but I don't really want the running costs (especially insurance). I think I'm probably going to rule out the V8 S-Type, as again, I don't really think I'd feel the benefit on a five mile commute, and besides, anything feels slow compared to the TVR anyhow...

I want it to be relaxing and comfortable, with just enough kick to make it a little interesting. So I'm almost certainly going to have an Auto sport box version.

vixpy1

42,676 posts

271 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Dare I suggest ... the S-type diesel?

alexkp

Original Poster:

16,484 posts

251 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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vixpy1 said:
Dare I suggest ... the S-type diesel?


No you don't dare.

I know they are good, but it will be a few years yet before I go the oil burner route.

(Maybe I will try one out just to be sure my prejudice is unreasonable...)

njw 77

17,064 posts

245 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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vixpy1 said:
Dare I suggest ... the S-type diesel?


Was going to say that. I'm in a similar quandry. If they only put the twin turbo diesel from the S Type into an X Type estate Id be laughing

Slightly o/t...Got a TDV6 Disco 3 coming next week. Drove the dealer's demo this week (Jag diesel single turbo) and, certainly compared to the outgoing diesel Discovery I have, the engine was a revelation...well compared to the old one, at least.

Pesty

42,655 posts

263 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Black S-Type R with red interior

gaston

21,189 posts

253 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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anonymous said:
[redacted]



Quel surprise!
Pas de surprise.

>> Edited by gaston on Friday 31st December 19:42

>> Edited by gaston on Friday 31st December 19:49

alexkp

Original Poster:

16,484 posts

251 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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gaston said:

anonymous said:
[redacted]



Quelle surprise!

>> Edited by gaston on Friday 31st December 19:42


Why is that a surprise?

ferg

15,242 posts

264 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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anonymous said:
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Mk 2???
Or 'S' Type.
Mmmmmm.....
No-one will start rattling on about Ford platforms and switchgear!!!

pwig

11,956 posts

277 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Pesty said:
Black S-Type R with red interior


Pesty is correct

silverback mike

11,290 posts

260 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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I had an XJ8 Sport, blooming lovely it was...

Only downside - abysmal boot.

lightningghost

4,943 posts

256 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Who cares if the X-Type is a Ford Mondeo, the S-Type is hideous!




The XJ, now that's a looker.

simpo two

87,083 posts

272 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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I had an in-depth chat with a technician at a Jag dealer recently. The X-Type is the entry-level Jag - yep, based on a Mondeo chassis, but then it starts at £19,995 so you're not going to get anything like an XK-R. Very much the alternative fleet motor IMHO.

By contrast the S-Type is based on a Lincoln Town Car chassis and, according to the technician, is pretty much a new design from the ground up rather than a make-do and mend car. At about £32K+ it definitely fits halfway between the X-Type and the 'true' Jags, the XJs and XKs.

I've had the S-Type 3.0SE for about a month and whilst it's not in the limo category (certainly not on 18" alloys!) I would say it's more like a 5-Series.

I might also add that the S-Type won the Autocar test between the BMW 530i and Merc E320: 'Excellent Jaguar steering, handling and superior body control make it the winner'.

The engine is surprisingly powerful at 240bhp (same as a Griffith 4.0!) but don't expect great economy: 25mpg here. It's also surprisingly long!

The S-Type was given a major facelift in 2002, the most obvious thing being an XJ-style centre console, but IMO this makes the interior look a bit smaller.

I've had BMWs (5 and 7) and a Merc, but a Jaguar still has a certain flavour, despite being owned by Ford, that I like. It's just a bit different.

www.carshine.com.au/Pictures/Jaguar/Jaguar%20-%20S%20Type%20Styling%20-%20Nothelle%20Styling%20Photo.jpg[/pic]


>> Edited by simpo two on Friday 31st December 21:45

alexkp

Original Poster:

16,484 posts

251 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Some excellent thoughts here guys, and thanks for the deatil Simpo.

I am always puzzled as to why people seem to think that the fact the X-Type uses a Mondeo chassis is somehow "dirty"...lol.

The Mondeo has a very fine chassis as far as I am aware.

I think the choice will come down to between an S-Type 3.0 Sport, and an X-Type 3.0 Sport.

(I wonder how much difference there is between the 2.5 and 3.0 X-Type?)

G Man

4,053 posts

267 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Couple of heavyly discounted Jags at drivethedeal.com

Hope it helps,

G MAN

Jaguar S Type 3.0 SE Saloon Seafrost /Champagne Hide, Sat Nav, Front/Rear park, WLW, Carpets

(The vehicle indicated is pre-registered Sept 54 Plate with factory delivery mileage only) £35,132 £31,230 (G11)

##### SAVING #####

£3902

Prices indicated includes Delivery,balance of 12 mths Road Tax and VAT

Jaguar S Type 3.0 SE Saloon Topaz /Champagne Hide, Cold Climate Pack,Rear Parking Sensors

(The vehicle indicated is pre-registered Sept 54 Plate with factory delivery mileage only) £33,397 £29,230 (G10)

##### SAVING #####

£4167

Prices indicated includes Delivery,balance of 12 mths Road Tax and VAT

alexkp

Original Poster:

16,484 posts

251 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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G Man said:
Couple of heavyly discounted Jags at drivethedeal.com

Hope it helps,

G MAN

Jaguar S Type 3.0 SE Saloon Seafrost /Champagne Hide, Sat Nav, Front/Rear park, WLW, Carpets

(The vehicle indicated is pre-registered Sept 54 Plate with factory delivery mileage only) £35,132 £31,230 (G11)

##### SAVING #####

£3902

Prices indicated includes Delivery,balance of 12 mths Road Tax and VAT

Jaguar S Type 3.0 SE Saloon Topaz /Champagne Hide, Cold Climate Pack,Rear Parking Sensors

(The vehicle indicated is pre-registered Sept 54 Plate with factory delivery mileage only) £33,397 £29,230 (G10)

##### SAVING #####

£4167

Prices indicated includes Delivery,balance of 12 mths Road Tax and VAT



Cheers for that - I'll take a look.

simpo two

87,083 posts

272 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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As I'm sure you know, 'Sport' doesn't make it go any faster; it's just an appearance thing. If you want toys, go for the SE. The 4.0 is not massively faster than the 3.0: but then for hooning I get the TVR out

Mine's a 2001 'X' reg in Pacific blue with ivory leather, satnav, voice activation, auto lights, auto wipers and gorgeous 18" BBS Monaco split rim alloys that look so good it's actually worth sacrificing the ride!! Oh yep, and all for £8,370

I think it might be time to head for your nearest dealer and get a test drive.....