X150 coupe: Talk me out of it
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Summit_Detailing said:
drmotorsport said:
I've joined the club! Throttle response is more aggressive than I anticipated
Next question is does anyone know a good indi servicing specialist in Essex?Enjoy every mile.
Chris
A convertible in that spec and colour has just turned up at BCA, it looks fabulous but a bit scruffy round the edges. Just my sort of car 
I'd rather a light interior like the one much like it that went through at Bristol 2 months ago, which also had the same wheels as drmotorsport, but you can't expect too much from the used car factory. I think I'd change the roof for a burgundy one when the rear glass inevitably drops out.
Watch out for kerbs when parking!
I'd rather a light interior like the one much like it that went through at Bristol 2 months ago, which also had the same wheels as drmotorsport, but you can't expect too much from the used car factory. I think I'd change the roof for a burgundy one when the rear glass inevitably drops out.
Watch out for kerbs when parking!
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Thursday 9th May 14:48
Patrick Bateman said:
Speaking of which, how do you find the C63 now you've had it a while?
In fairness I've done little with it except drive it places lately - my mother passed away late in December so I've been busy helping dad with stuff, driving up and down to see him etc. Hopefully get to stretch its legs a bit soon now we're out of winter (touch wood) here in Scotland!It's an interesting thing though, very like the XKR in some respects - that sense of vastness about the engine, the dual personality thing of being just as happy pottering as giving it the beans. Not as well appointed inside, definitely not as pretty outside and not as comfortable in terms of ride. While the XKR is faster the C63 feels a bit more dramatic and feels like the handling matches the performance. And here's something you probably never thought you'd hear - I miss the fuel economy of the XKR!
drmotorsport said:
Yep 2014 XKR Dynamic R with Black pack. Supposedly all the goodies from the XKRS but without the s/c pulley and the bodykit which i'm not keen on anyway.
The XKR-S didn't have a different supercharger pulley from the XKR - the engine was entirely the same, the only powertrain hardware differences were in the exhaust, other than that it's just the ECU mapping. Your Dynamic R will have the same crossover mid-section as the XKR-S but I think the back-box from the standard XKR.reddiesel said:
XKR faster ? Surprised to hear you say that .
Certainly feels like it - being supercharged the Jag's pace is more accessible. Not to say the C63 doesn't feel quick, just not as much as the XKR.Patrick Bateman said:
Glad you're enjoying it.
I'd have thought it's a fairly safe bet for the 5 litre XKR to be a bit quicker. I think weights will be similar and it has an extra 50 ponies.
Both plenty I'm sure!
The C63 Coupe is a little bit lighter IIRC but gives away a bit of power, but torque is fairly similar between the two. Pre-facelift C63s had a fairly awful slushbox, not a patch on the ZF ones. Facelift examples like mine got a MCT which is much more user-friendly and effective.I'd have thought it's a fairly safe bet for the 5 litre XKR to be a bit quicker. I think weights will be similar and it has an extra 50 ponies.
Both plenty I'm sure!
drmotorsport said:
8bit said:
That's stunning, well done. XK Dynamic R? They have the XKR-S ECU mapping (or something very close to it) which is a bit sharper than standard. I installed that on my 5.0 XKR and didn't notice massive difference in outright performance but the car definitely felt more keen.
I didn't really take to the facelift 5.0 look but I could see myself going back to one of those once I've had my fun with my C63...
Yep 2014 XKR Dynamic R with Black pack. Supposedly all the goodies from the XKRS but without the s/c pulley and the bodykit which i'm not keen on anyway.I didn't really take to the facelift 5.0 look but I could see myself going back to one of those once I've had my fun with my C63...
On the throttle response comment and the inevitable traction issues, I’m now 4 months into ownership of a 2011 XKR, now looking at possible replacement tyre options. I drive mine always in sport on the paddles (always pull away in 2nd) and when Mrs D isn’t in the car I have dynamic mode on. The traction with the Dunlops on mine is diabolical out of junctions no matter how much I modulate the throttle - I’ve had a lot of quick cars now, including 3 previous s/c Jags, so I’m beginning to blame the Dunlops.
Does anyone have better experience with the Michelin PS4S or the new Continentals?
Diderot said:
That’s an absolute stunner. Congrats. Beautiful looking thing she is.
On the throttle response comment and the inevitable traction issues, I’m now 4 months into ownership of a 2011 XKR, now looking at possible replacement tyre options. I drive mine always in sport on the paddles (always pull away in 2nd) and when Mrs D isn’t in the car I have dynamic mode on. The traction with the Dunlops on mine is diabolical out of junctions no matter how much I modulate the throttle - I’ve had a lot of quick cars now, including 3 previous s/c Jags, so I’m beginning to blame the Dunlops.
Does anyone have better experience with the Michelin PS4S or the new Continentals?
One of the first things I did on my XK was bin the terrible cheap tyres and fit four PS4S all round. very very good tyres, although I've heard good things about the Sport Contact 7, so I think really so long as you're fitting one or the other, you can't go too far wrong.On the throttle response comment and the inevitable traction issues, I’m now 4 months into ownership of a 2011 XKR, now looking at possible replacement tyre options. I drive mine always in sport on the paddles (always pull away in 2nd) and when Mrs D isn’t in the car I have dynamic mode on. The traction with the Dunlops on mine is diabolical out of junctions no matter how much I modulate the throttle - I’ve had a lot of quick cars now, including 3 previous s/c Jags, so I’m beginning to blame the Dunlops.
Does anyone have better experience with the Michelin PS4S or the new Continentals?
Diderot said:
That’s an absolute stunner. Congrats. Beautiful looking thing she is.
On the throttle response comment and the inevitable traction issues, I’m now 4 months into ownership of a 2011 XKR, now looking at possible replacement tyre options. I drive mine always in sport on the paddles (always pull away in 2nd) and when Mrs D isn’t in the car I have dynamic mode on. The traction with the Dunlops on mine is diabolical out of junctions no matter how much I modulate the throttle - I’ve had a lot of quick cars now, including 3 previous s/c Jags, so I’m beginning to blame the Dunlops.
Does anyone have better experience with the Michelin PS4S or the new Continentals?
The new continentals are superb and seem to be wearing ok on mine, and PS4S are very highly regarded.On the throttle response comment and the inevitable traction issues, I’m now 4 months into ownership of a 2011 XKR, now looking at possible replacement tyre options. I drive mine always in sport on the paddles (always pull away in 2nd) and when Mrs D isn’t in the car I have dynamic mode on. The traction with the Dunlops on mine is diabolical out of junctions no matter how much I modulate the throttle - I’ve had a lot of quick cars now, including 3 previous s/c Jags, so I’m beginning to blame the Dunlops.
Does anyone have better experience with the Michelin PS4S or the new Continentals?
The Dunlops are widely known to be crap, I binned a set with 5mm of tread on they're that poor.
Diderot said:
That’s an absolute stunner. Congrats. Beautiful looking thing she is.
On the throttle response comment and the inevitable traction issues, I’m now 4 months into ownership of a 2011 XKR, now looking at possible replacement tyre options. I drive mine always in sport on the paddles (always pull away in 2nd) and when Mrs D isn’t in the car I have dynamic mode on. The traction with the Dunlops on mine is diabolical out of junctions no matter how much I modulate the throttle - I’ve had a lot of quick cars now, including 3 previous s/c Jags, so I’m beginning to blame the Dunlops.
Does anyone have better experience with the Michelin PS4S or the new Continentals?
I had the Dunlops on my 5.0 XKR when I got it, quickly swapped for Vredestein Ultrac Vortis - miles better. Later went for the Michelin PS4S, I'd say the outright grip wasn't that much better than the Vredesteins but feedback was significantly improved, I'd use them again without question. My C63 came on four nearly new Continental Sport Contact 7s, can't compare directly with the Michelins as they were on different cars but they're also very impressive. Any of those three will do you very well.On the throttle response comment and the inevitable traction issues, I’m now 4 months into ownership of a 2011 XKR, now looking at possible replacement tyre options. I drive mine always in sport on the paddles (always pull away in 2nd) and when Mrs D isn’t in the car I have dynamic mode on. The traction with the Dunlops on mine is diabolical out of junctions no matter how much I modulate the throttle - I’ve had a lot of quick cars now, including 3 previous s/c Jags, so I’m beginning to blame the Dunlops.
Does anyone have better experience with the Michelin PS4S or the new Continentals?
When I picked up my XKR Dynamic in Jan, they’d just put a set of Pirelli P Zeros on it. No expense spared by the JLR main dealer.
Probably not what I would have put on, having had them on both the F355 and Mazer, they are a fantastic tyre in the warm and dry but wear quite quickly. But v skittish in the cold. And over early Spring in the SW with single figure temperatures, the car did struggle for grip.
I put Avons on the Mazer 4200 in the end, which I thought were pretty good and very underrated. Hopefully won’t have to think about tyres for 5he XKR this year but will follow with interest.
Probably not what I would have put on, having had them on both the F355 and Mazer, they are a fantastic tyre in the warm and dry but wear quite quickly. But v skittish in the cold. And over early Spring in the SW with single figure temperatures, the car did struggle for grip.
I put Avons on the Mazer 4200 in the end, which I thought were pretty good and very underrated. Hopefully won’t have to think about tyres for 5he XKR this year but will follow with interest.
I've got P Pzero PZ4 on my XJ Supersport and also found them to be quite exciting in the cold, glad it's not just me.
I'd not buy them again, I've found Pirellis to be inconsistent performers for decades like a mid range tyre at a premium price, but I wouldn't throw them in the bin like the Dunlops.
I'd not buy them again, I've found Pirellis to be inconsistent performers for decades like a mid range tyre at a premium price, but I wouldn't throw them in the bin like the Dunlops.
Little update on my XK, it's had a busy few days. These journeys were all from Herts.
Last Friday night drive down to south coast near Bournemouth. M3 roadworks 50 mph rubbish as normal.
Saturday evening drive back home, think sod the M3 so drive directly north through the new forest, into Wiltshire through Salisbury, the plain, savernake forest upto Marlborough and onto the M4 to get home. Car was awesome across country overtaking dawdlers on the straight roads in evening sunshine in stunning countryside. M4 had miles of 50 mph roadworks as well, such is life.
Yesterday drove to Blackburn and back in the day for a meeting, about 8 hours in the car in total. So comfy and relaxed on the motorway, really quiet and serene.
So nearly 900 miles in three days of mixed roads, all by myself. I couldn't have had a better car for me for the three days absolutely peerless. Fast, comfy, quiet. Love the car.
Last Friday night drive down to south coast near Bournemouth. M3 roadworks 50 mph rubbish as normal.
Saturday evening drive back home, think sod the M3 so drive directly north through the new forest, into Wiltshire through Salisbury, the plain, savernake forest upto Marlborough and onto the M4 to get home. Car was awesome across country overtaking dawdlers on the straight roads in evening sunshine in stunning countryside. M4 had miles of 50 mph roadworks as well, such is life.
Yesterday drove to Blackburn and back in the day for a meeting, about 8 hours in the car in total. So comfy and relaxed on the motorway, really quiet and serene.
So nearly 900 miles in three days of mixed roads, all by myself. I couldn't have had a better car for me for the three days absolutely peerless. Fast, comfy, quiet. Love the car.
Thanks Summit - so glad you’re loving it. On Monday we depart for Cornwall. First properly long run for the XKR. Looking forward to it. BTW, mine has leather roof lining , was that an option over the Alcantara?
Apropos of tyres. Had the Conti Sport Contact 7s fitted this week. Done 11 miles so far, so looking forward to properly bedding them in. Findings so far are: comically, nay, hilariously better traction, even with the stickers on than the ditch finder Dunlops, and a much more pliant ride it seems. Will report back from the West Cornwall trip from the South Coast next week.
Apropos of tyres. Had the Conti Sport Contact 7s fitted this week. Done 11 miles so far, so looking forward to properly bedding them in. Findings so far are: comically, nay, hilariously better traction, even with the stickers on than the ditch finder Dunlops, and a much more pliant ride it seems. Will report back from the West Cornwall trip from the South Coast next week.
Diderot said:
Thanks Summit - so glad you’re loving it. On Monday we depart for Cornwall. First properly long run for the XKR. Looking forward to it. BTW, mine has leather roof lining , was that an option over the Alcantara?
Apropos of tyres. Had the Conti Sport Contact 7s fitted this week. Done 11 miles so far, so looking forward to properly bedding them in. Findings so far are: comically, nay, hilariously better traction, even with the stickers on than the ditch finder Dunlops, and a much more pliant ride it seems. Will report back from the West Cornwall trip from the South Coast next week.
I've been enormously impressed with the SC7 on mine.Apropos of tyres. Had the Conti Sport Contact 7s fitted this week. Done 11 miles so far, so looking forward to properly bedding them in. Findings so far are: comically, nay, hilariously better traction, even with the stickers on than the ditch finder Dunlops, and a much more pliant ride it seems. Will report back from the West Cornwall trip from the South Coast next week.
Leather headliner became an option at some point, it's not in my 2010 brochure but I've seen it in others. I have sometimes wondered if it won't collapse on you as the cloth ones so often do, something that every other manufacturer fixed in the 90s but Jaguar still seem to suffer from at least until the X250 XF and X351 XJ, although that remains to be seen.
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