SR4 High Downforce/Low Downforce

SR4 High Downforce/Low Downforce

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kyletilley

Original Poster:

82 posts

222 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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Hi all, i am currently looking at purchasing an SR4.

It has the Bi-plane rear wing and rear diffuser on but other than that its in LD spec. Can I use the current front body work and fit the HD front diffuser and dive planes?

Other than that what are the differences?

Thanks in advance

Kyle








splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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Yes you can, but together with the various HD appendages like stays and a different diffuser, it involves a bit (25mm from memory) being cut off the whole of the leading edge of the existing front bodywork; ideally that's a job done by Radical themselves and when we got a quote from them for doing the whole caboodle, it wasn't half so charging rhino as we thought it might be.

To all intents and purposes, that's it in terms of getting HD; the side pod venting has evolved over the years, but I doubt that had much effect on the downforce: The benefit of dive planes seems to be a matter of some debate; compared to the difference between a LD and HD SR4, they don't make that much difference overall in terms of downforce generation (a bit quicker through the corners but quite a bit slower down the straights) and many regard them as surplus to requirements except in the wet.

Having been compelled to run SR4s without any up in the air wing at all via certain regs at the time yikes JW & DS are as expert as it gets in terms of what's best to do aero-wise to an SR4, so perhaps, they'll look in and input.

Hope to see you in a Rad soon!

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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Hi,

My SR4 ended up with a bi-plane rear wing,HD front end(fitted by Van Kaiser) and dive planes fitted all the time.

The sidepods were LD.

I found the dive planes reduced understeer.

It had 8 and 10in rims

It worked really well

Darcy

kyletilley

Original Poster:

82 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th December 2010
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Thanks for the info guys.

I spoke to Radical and for the HD up grade is well over a grand. Darcy when you converted your car did you use all of the following?

Shorter Dampers
Front Diffuser Black HD
Fr Diffuser Wear Strip Centre
Fr Diffuser Wear Strip Corner
Nose Retaining Strip
Front Body Pin Bracket
Nose Retaining Detent Pin
Fr Diffuser Stay 06 Lower
Front Diffuser Stay 06 Upper
Front HD Diffuser Bracket LH
Front Diffuser Black HD
Fr Diffuser Wear Strip Centre
Fr Diffuser Wear Strip Corner
Nose Retaining Strip

I remember looking around your car at Combe (I race in the FF1600 Championship). Originally I had planned to get a Nemesis like you replaced the Sr4 with but cant find one for sale anywhere!

Regards

Kyle

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Thursday 9th December 2010
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Hi

That looks like the list of parts that went into my old car.

The bonnet gets a mod as well

I think it makes a big enough difference to make it worthwhile.

The SR4 is a great car,I think it is a little under developed,but very capable.

Mine was 1440 tuned,and could lap Combe in the 6,s

You only need to be in the consistent 5,s to win the championship!!

With regards to the Nemesis,they are a rare beast,we think only 11 or so were made.

Mine has had a big rebuild this year and is probably the nicest example

I will try and get Josh to post a picture here later

Regards

Darcy

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Thursday 9th December 2010
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DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Thursday 9th December 2010
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jpivey

572 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th December 2010
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Get that straight line missile but slow around the corners off of hear!! Ha ha
Lovely car clean as a whistle.

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Thursday 9th December 2010
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Hi JP,

I was getting used to the Hewland!!!

Beat you in the second race though smile




See you

Darcy

dsl2

1,475 posts

207 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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That looks really nice Darcy, if maybe a little heavy?

Edited by dsl2 on Friday 10th December 08:12

jpivey

572 posts

224 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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True I tried to brake where super fast DSL would for the chicane and I failed!!!

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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Hi Darren,

Its actually quite light for what it is

Around 540kg without pilot

Regards

Darcy

ps The 250hp and torque of a car engine is nice!!

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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We might be a little off topic!!!

dsl2

1,475 posts

207 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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Hi Darcy, that's surprisingly light. Makes you wonder how they make a PR6 so heavy with the tiny little bike engine/gearbox combo that's got to be what 80 odd kg lighter than the VX & Hewland package!

JP don't forget racers excuse no.104 "well I was running in my new brake pads carefully at the time"!!

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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Darren,

Back in the day,these Supersport cars were big money

The rear wing and support is pre-preg carbon

The bespoke wheels and suspension are all the lightest magnesium alloy

The rear of the car has no chassis-its all hung off the gear casing

The previous owner has data to prove that it would take Church at Thruxton,flat out at over 160mph!!

I just wish I could change gear properly in it!!

Regards

Darcy


gixermark

744 posts

193 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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thats VERY pretty... there is one over here that races regularly...

DarcySmith

166 posts

243 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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Hi Gixer

Thats interesting

Who owns that car??

Is there a link to some pictures?

Regards

Darcy

Josh Smith

437 posts

242 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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Pat Caseys Nemesis - which was Alexis Coles car??

Edited by Josh Smith on Friday 10th December 14:05

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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Hopefully Kyle got to hear enough about SR4 downforce ............ like that N a lot, proper air intake thingy ............ my only worry is that this is spookily reminiscent of a thread about another 'not a Radical' black car several weeks ago ........... no worries as long as you can confirm that Dad definitely doesn't use fake tan Josh laugh

Simon T

2,136 posts

279 months

Friday 10th December 2010
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Nice car Darcy! Are you bringing it out to play next year?

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