Yellow SR4 in classifieds.
Discussion
Afternoon all,
Anyone know this car? Have had a brief email from them its done around 30 hours and has the kwaka 1200 engine. Do these run @ roughly the same hours to the hayabusa between refresh? is there much difference in performance (not that it will really be an issue im sure)
Hopefully be an owner soon.
Steve
Anyone know this car? Have had a brief email from them its done around 30 hours and has the kwaka 1200 engine. Do these run @ roughly the same hours to the hayabusa between refresh? is there much difference in performance (not that it will really be an issue im sure)
Hopefully be an owner soon.
Steve
Thanks for the help so Far. 
In a nutshell, the wife has been on at me for 2 years about a conservatory (since i bought the RS) i have had fun in that but its not really being used and i enjoy doing track days whenever i can (altho the RS hasnt been on any) So my thinking is, sell the RS, assist in the conservatory fund AND get a track toy. I wont be doing too many but hopefully several a year, probably only the few local tracks to myself (brands/snetterton etc).
As much as i would like to also get an enclosed trailer that probably wont happen as it will all have to be kept in the garage, so will need a trailer that suits. (any recomendations? ) i see the above car has a possible trailer fairly cheap but will only go that route if it fits (and IF the car/deal check out ok).
Will possibly also have to get something to Tow the trailer, wife has a Kuga but WONT let me use that
need to have a play at towing weights as do have a new berlingo but unsure on limits there other than that maybe get something cheap to do the donkey work.
Anyway lets see what he comes up with tommorow,
Hopefully at a track soon.
In a nutshell, the wife has been on at me for 2 years about a conservatory (since i bought the RS) i have had fun in that but its not really being used and i enjoy doing track days whenever i can (altho the RS hasnt been on any) So my thinking is, sell the RS, assist in the conservatory fund AND get a track toy. I wont be doing too many but hopefully several a year, probably only the few local tracks to myself (brands/snetterton etc).
As much as i would like to also get an enclosed trailer that probably wont happen as it will all have to be kept in the garage, so will need a trailer that suits. (any recomendations? ) i see the above car has a possible trailer fairly cheap but will only go that route if it fits (and IF the car/deal check out ok).
Will possibly also have to get something to Tow the trailer, wife has a Kuga but WONT let me use that
need to have a play at towing weights as do have a new berlingo but unsure on limits there other than that maybe get something cheap to do the donkey work. Anyway lets see what he comes up with tommorow,
Hopefully at a track soon.
Good luck with all the plans.
As you say, enclosed trailer would be the best, but hey ho, cut the cloth to suit ........... just remembered I've got an external grade tailor made to fit like a glove Specialist Car Cover somehwere in the garage that could help sort you out (and when open trailer towing to keep the water out of that big hole where the air but best not water goes in) - I'll search it out and keep it by just in case.
Luckily the towing shouldn't be a great issue: For a simple trailer plus an SR4 plus bits like tyres I'd take a punt at what 1200Kg-ish? Which actually is pretty featherweight for most things to tug along at the legal max of 60mph (), especially when you consider that the much favoured enclosed BJ RS3 has an unloaded mass of something like 900Kg.
Reet then, here's hoping to See You @ Snett straightaway in the New Year ...... initially the 200, then around Easter the 300 ............ it's going to be great (as long as the reconfiguration hasn't managed to screw up the utterly awesome in a Rad Coram!)
As you say, enclosed trailer would be the best, but hey ho, cut the cloth to suit ........... just remembered I've got an external grade tailor made to fit like a glove Specialist Car Cover somehwere in the garage that could help sort you out (and when open trailer towing to keep the water out of that big hole where the air but best not water goes in) - I'll search it out and keep it by just in case.
Luckily the towing shouldn't be a great issue: For a simple trailer plus an SR4 plus bits like tyres I'd take a punt at what 1200Kg-ish? Which actually is pretty featherweight for most things to tug along at the legal max of 60mph (
), especially when you consider that the much favoured enclosed BJ RS3 has an unloaded mass of something like 900Kg.Reet then, here's hoping to See You @ Snett straightaway in the New Year ...... initially the 200, then around Easter the 300 ............ it's going to be great (as long as the reconfiguration hasn't managed to screw up the utterly awesome in a Rad Coram!)
It's not just the towing weight you need to be aware of, it's the nose weight - over limit and you're un-insured, plod can stop and check, etc. Small vans like the Berlingo tend to have quite small nose weights of about 75kgs, my SR4 on an open trailer which was just long enough for the car was 120kgs.
You are wise to look into this, there's a bit of effort involved in running a Radical, all well worth it as they are cracking cars. Have you considered a Prosport or Clubsport? Slightly smaller and lighter so you will have more chance towing with your van, BertBert used to (just) fit one on a Minno trailer which will fit in a standard garage. SR4 won't fit on one of those. I went through hoops trying to get a trailer to fit in my garage and that was big enough for the SR4. End result was a trailer which just fitted in the garage but was too high on the nose weight for my then tow car. End result new tow car and new enclosed trailer...
A clubsport will keep you entertained by the way as plenty on here will testify too. Leave a bit more for the conservatory too...
Best of luck with the search (and wife placating).
Nick
You are wise to look into this, there's a bit of effort involved in running a Radical, all well worth it as they are cracking cars. Have you considered a Prosport or Clubsport? Slightly smaller and lighter so you will have more chance towing with your van, BertBert used to (just) fit one on a Minno trailer which will fit in a standard garage. SR4 won't fit on one of those. I went through hoops trying to get a trailer to fit in my garage and that was big enough for the SR4. End result was a trailer which just fitted in the garage but was too high on the nose weight for my then tow car. End result new tow car and new enclosed trailer...
A clubsport will keep you entertained by the way as plenty on here will testify too. Leave a bit more for the conservatory too...
Best of luck with the search (and wife placating).
Nick
Angus is absolutely right and boy, could this could get gripping ............ what the myriad of Rules really mean, then don't forget that not all of us have the same entitlements under our Licences. And don't forget you need to inform your Insurers if you'll be towing, else most will walk away 100% from the cover (on your car as a tower) if something goes awry with the trailer on the back.
Make it your snowy weather project .......... welcome to the world of GTM, Nose Weight, Axle Loads, tow / trailer weight proportionality etc. Do VOSA rely on the what it says on the trailer plate for maximum permissable overall load to accuse someone as guilty of overloading when quite often it isn't? Yes indeed they do, because they don't understand the stupidly complex rules themselves.
GTM is the single biggest thing to get to grips with and very little with four wheels comes lighter than such as a Rad.
Make it your snowy weather project .......... welcome to the world of GTM, Nose Weight, Axle Loads, tow / trailer weight proportionality etc. Do VOSA rely on the what it says on the trailer plate for maximum permissable overall load to accuse someone as guilty of overloading when quite often it isn't? Yes indeed they do, because they don't understand the stupidly complex rules themselves.
GTM is the single biggest thing to get to grips with and very little with four wheels comes lighter than such as a Rad.
Blimey what a can of worms this is openning up. The berlingo is no totally out of the picture with a 40kg nose weight. 
now probably just bite the bullet and get an old disco for the towing job, also gives me an option to get into work on snowy days like today when small a van struggles.
Now the trailer hunt begins, shouldnt be too much of an issue i hope as long as it fits inside the 9' width the garage will soon be extended back by an extra 3m ish so i can do length as will have 7/8m to play with.
The berlingo is no totally out of the picture with a 40kg nose weight. now probably just bite the bullet and get an old disco for the towing job, also gives me an option to get into work on snowy days like today when small a van struggles. Now the trailer hunt begins, shouldnt be too much of an issue i hope as long as it fits inside the 9' width the garage will soon be extended back by an extra 3m ish so i can do length as will have 7/8m to play with.
nick997 said:
You are wise to look into this, there's a bit of effort involved in running a Radical, all well worth it as they are cracking cars. Have you considered a Prosport or Clubsport? Slightly smaller and lighter so you will have more chance towing with your van, BertBert used to (just) fit one on a Minno trailer which will fit in a standard garage. SR4 won't fit on one of those. I went through hoops trying to get a trailer to fit in my garage and that was big enough for the SR4. End result was a trailer which just fitted in the garage but was too high on the nose weight for my then tow car. End result new tow car and new enclosed trailer...
A clubsport will keep you entertained by the way as plenty on here will testify too. Leave a bit more for the conservatory too...
Best of luck with the search (and wife placating).
Nick
If you have a slightly longer trailer surely the nose weight can be dropped by having the car back slightly. might have to get a set of nose scales to do everytime tho. A clubsport will keep you entertained by the way as plenty on here will testify too. Leave a bit more for the conservatory too...
Best of luck with the search (and wife placating).
Nick
i had looked into a clubsport BUT the age old gets me like most, no passenger seat to scare people in. opps i mean squeeze honest.
S26VE P said:
If you have a slightly longer trailer surely the nose weight can be dropped by having the car back slightly. might have to get a set of nose scales to do everytime tho.
Yes, but it won't make as much difference as you think - or as much as I hoped - probably because the car is about the same weight as an open trailer and the centre of gravity sits pretty much spot on between the two trailer axles. I had a 13' long open trailer which wasn't long enough to balance it out and then moved to a BJ RS3 which is 15' I think and allowed the car to be moved around a bit more. It was also better balanced to begin with, probably because the trailer weighed so much more than the car.I set out to achieve exactly what you are looking to do, get a trailer big enough for the SR4 that fits into a standard garage - double garage but only single doors. My doors are 7' not 9' like yours so it sounds like you will have no problem in getting a 2.3m bed width trailer (sorry to mix measure measurements) which you can get in all sorts of lengths to allow you to move the car around on the trailer to balance.
That said I see you are thinking of ditching the van and getting a 4x4, which sounds like a good idea, towing is much nicer with a car that has a bit of power and is a good bit heavier than whatever you are towing.
Understand what you are saying about the SR4 vs Clubsport although I never took any one out in as a passenger in my car. I ended up sharing track days with a mate on a you bend it you mend it basis which was good, shared experience, shared costs, etc. If you can do something like that then a CS will give you just as much on track fun as an SR4. You could probably pick up a CS, trailer and old 4x4 for the cost of a SR4 and probably lose money on none of them over a couple of years whereas I guess SR4's must still be depreciating a bit.
Anyway, I'm rambling now, just throwing up some thoughts - get yourself into some sort of Radical as soon as you can, you'll have a ball.
Hello Trev, I seem to be doing your job for you!
Cheers
Nick
In the clubsport world, this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2149511.htm is a very well known car. I don't think that Van Kaiser has sold it, even though the ad has expired. It has the advantage of a two seat conversion (SR4 seat unit).
If it's of interest PM me as I know quite a lot about it (and it came 3rd in class this year raced in 12 out of 20 races).
Bert
If it's of interest PM me as I know quite a lot about it (and it came 3rd in class this year raced in 12 out of 20 races).
Bert
BertBert said:
In the clubsport world, this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2149511.htm is a very well known car. I don't think that Van Kaiser has sold it, even though the ad has expired. It has the advantage of a two seat conversion (SR4 seat unit).
If it's of interest PM me as I know quite a lot about it (and it came 3rd in class this year raced in 12 out of 20 races).
Bert
If it's of interest PM me as I know quite a lot about it (and it came 3rd in class this year raced in 12 out of 20 races).
Bert
message on its way. Just coming to the end of my first year of Radical Owndership.....previously having competed Caterhams...... the only regret I have is not having done it earlier.
When taking the Radical plunge I was first drawn to SR4 / 3's but strangely chose a Clubsport - which was a cracking little car and gave me a relatively low cost taster to ownership. My first outings in the Clubbie were at a very wet Snetterton where I gained so so much confidence and immediately smitten thus regretting not having bought a 3 or 4.
Clubsports / Prosports are great cars but I guess my reasons for wanting a 2 seater were to reward (scare the life out of) the folkes who came along to help me run the car. HAVING to give passenger rides is never an issue with my Caterham as you can comfortably turn up at a circuit and run by yourself....be warned you really do need a spare set of hands to help you with Radical.
My restriction when looking for the upgrade was "only" having a BJ Sprint Shuttle Trailer (which took the Clubbie with ease) and with a few inches to spare also took the SR4.....so I upgraded to the an SR4.
Another benefit for upgrading from a Clubbie to the SR4 was that they share many parts such as wheels, wishbones, uprights etc so many of the bits and bobs from my Clubbie proved useful for the SR4.
If I were starting out again now and looking for a more "Track Day" focused Radical I would go straight for the SR4 or without trailer restriction I would take a serious look at an SR3.
In fact I've just bought a BJ RS3 so may well be looking for another move up the Radical Ladder......in fact this time I may even consider sellng my Caterham as since owning a Radical its seen a track only once this year.
I can see an SR3 RS sometime soon.
PM me if you have any Q's.
When taking the Radical plunge I was first drawn to SR4 / 3's but strangely chose a Clubsport - which was a cracking little car and gave me a relatively low cost taster to ownership. My first outings in the Clubbie were at a very wet Snetterton where I gained so so much confidence and immediately smitten thus regretting not having bought a 3 or 4.
Clubsports / Prosports are great cars but I guess my reasons for wanting a 2 seater were to reward (scare the life out of) the folkes who came along to help me run the car. HAVING to give passenger rides is never an issue with my Caterham as you can comfortably turn up at a circuit and run by yourself....be warned you really do need a spare set of hands to help you with Radical.
My restriction when looking for the upgrade was "only" having a BJ Sprint Shuttle Trailer (which took the Clubbie with ease) and with a few inches to spare also took the SR4.....so I upgraded to the an SR4.
Another benefit for upgrading from a Clubbie to the SR4 was that they share many parts such as wheels, wishbones, uprights etc so many of the bits and bobs from my Clubbie proved useful for the SR4.
If I were starting out again now and looking for a more "Track Day" focused Radical I would go straight for the SR4 or without trailer restriction I would take a serious look at an SR3.
In fact I've just bought a BJ RS3 so may well be looking for another move up the Radical Ladder......in fact this time I may even consider sellng my Caterham as since owning a Radical its seen a track only once this year.
I can see an SR3 RS sometime soon.
PM me if you have any Q's.
Looks like its still available - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Radical-SR4-Race-Trackday-sp...
Gassing Station | Radical | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff