More Clubsport Reverse

[dptdpt]

The recent postings and pics on here about Clubsport reverse showed my that the ball bearings were missing from mine, so I got some from Radical but can't work out how they are suppossssed to act, as they will not protrude through the plate (with the holes)
I wonder if they are too big?
Couldn't understand how it was supposed to drive either until I discovered the Woodrufe key missing

Should the balls protrude so as to engage with the lugs attached to the sprocket?

[splitpin]

If your balls are that big, you need to get racing ASAP!

Do a search; there's a post on here somewhere that has some good pics showing how it should look - immediately prior to you chasing them round the paddock!

[BertBert]

You have the plate with the holes and the piece below which has ramps. When the reverser is activated the ramps push the balls up through the holes to engage in the dogs on the output drive. When the engine turns forward it turns the mechanism back and balls go back dahn the holes! There should be a spring retaining clip for them to stop that tinkling rattle when you go round lh bends!

Hateful, hateful, hateful!

Bert

[dptdpt]

Thanks BertBert - you've confirmed what I thought. The balls from Radical are too big so I just need to get proper sized ones.
Also, the part with the ramps on has a threaded hole in the side, and I see from the pics that a bolt should be in there. Any idea what this does? Does it just tighten up the sleeve?

[GeoffW]

As someone above said, do a search for previous threads, but I suggest you have large glass or three of whatever you fancy next to you when you start to read them, as it's nearly all bad news.

[BertBert]

so when yours is activated, does the boss with the ramps turn to push the balls up?

I think they are standard 12mm ball bearings BTW.

Bert

[dptdpt]

The boss with the ramps is not driven. It turns in one direction but not the other, so I can see that the balls will be pushed through the plate with the holes when that turns on the shaft. I think the problem is that Radical have sent me 19mm balls which clearly will not go through the 16mm holes in the plate.
I did search on here before posting, and found the useful pics which told me it was the ball bearings were missing. No doubt I'll agree with everyone else about the arrangement being rubbish, but it seemed to make sense to try it for the sake of a couple of ball bearings.

[splitpin]

I'll have access to a complete and as far as I know operational one (in a box where else!) during the course of this week: I'll take some pics and measure diameter of the balls on that and post up on here.

Perhaps there was a later improved ( ) version with differently sized balls?

[BertBert]

do you have the spring clip to keep the balls in their holes away from the dogs when not reversing?

BTW if you are not racing and therefore dont need it for scrutineering, I'd take it all off anyway.

Bert

[BertBert]

Just measured my balls. They are 15mm.
BErt

[SportsLibre]

BertBert said:

Just measured my balls. They are 15mm.
BErt

ooh err missus

[dptdpt]

15mm makes sense, as the holes are 16mm. The spring clip is there, just the balls were missing, and I agree it is probably better left off the car, but I thought it might make loading on to the trailer a bit easier so wanted to try it. Thanks for all the replies.

[BertBert]

Sorry to seem like Mr Reverser, but there is no way you want to try and use the reverser to reverse up the trailer, it really serves no proper function at all other than passing scrutineering. Get it off quick!
Bert

[splitpin]

Relative to the chances of that device getting it up a 2m plus long all inclined ramp, I was thinking likewise.

Can't find it in The Blue Book anymore, but I recollect that if asked to do so, it's required to do something like make the car go backwards on the dead level for something like 2m, 'climbing' over a 30mm high piece of wood en route .......... if it couldn't do that, then run up the white flag for a proper ramp. 30mm and 2m is the thingies equivalent of climbing up Everest and walking round The World at the same time?

[BertBert]

splitpin said:

30mm and 2m is the thingies equivalent of climbing up Everest and walking round The World at the same time?

I think there's more chance of me climbing Croagh Patrick on me knees!

Bert

[nick997]

splitpin said:

Relative to the chances of that device getting it up a 2m plus long all inclined ramp, I was thinking likewise.

Can't find it in The Blue Book anymore, but I recollect that if asked to do so, it's required to do something like make the car go backwards on the dead level for something like 2m, 'climbing' over a 30mm high piece of wood en route .......... if it couldn't do that, then run up the white flag for a proper ramp. 30mm and 2m is the thingies equivalent of climbing up Everest and walking round The World at the same time?

750MC ruling I think Trev:

The gearbox must be standard to the engine and have a maximum of 6 forward gears. There must be a means of reverse, which may be internal or external to the gearbox; this must be operable by the driver whilst normally seated. Cars will be required to drive in reverse a minimum distance of 3 metres on the flat during which one of the wheels will be required to pass over a block 40mm square.

[splitpin]

Cheers Nick

Doh, that's why I could no longer find it in The Blue Book!