electric reverse system for porsportþ

electric reverse system for porsportþ

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Jackard

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45 posts

172 months

Saturday 17th July 2010
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Hi all,

I've a radical prosport, i've some trouble with the electric reverse system.
It seem that the spring clip is broken.

Do you know where to buy one ?

Regards..

SportsLibre

590 posts

218 months

Saturday 17th July 2010
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Do you really need the reverse? After trying it out once, it was the first thing to come off mine. hurl

I certainly would advise against using it in almost any circumstances, unless you enjoy scouring the ground looking for ball bearings smilerolleyes

There has been several posts about this in the past. If you search the forum you may find an answer.
I assume you have already contacted "R" ? phone

You could replace the Diff with the later reversing type, but I suspect they are not cheap and the last SR4 owner I spoke to wasn't exactly impressed by its operation either again choosing never to use it. Just get out and push. scratchchin

If you actually need it for MSA racing rules etc. then you have a problem which perhaps someone on here might be able to help. thumbup

Edited by SportsLibre on Saturday 17th July 17:27

Jackard

Original Poster:

45 posts

172 months

Saturday 17th July 2010
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i just need a reverse system to be compliant with the french hillclimbing rules.

BertBert

19,539 posts

217 months

Saturday 17th July 2010
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I'm sorry to say that you will struggle. There are no spares available, so unless you can find someone who can fabricate the parts, it's not going to happen. It's a shocking piece of design. I had someone fabricate a retaining plate instead of a spring. It didn't last 20 minutes. I think you'll need to explore alternative reversers.

Sorry.

Bert

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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BertBert said:
There are no spares available, so ......
Is that right BertBert? Reason for asking/querying is that end of Feb this year, Scott Hughes said that Radical had all parts in stock and could supply.

Radical make cars to compete in circuit racing, hillclimbs and sprints and as I read the Regs, it has always been the case that all of them require bike-engined cars to have a reversing arrangement capable of moving a car the not exactly demanding requirement of 3 metres backwards with one wheel able to tackle and overcome a 40mm block. Sounds to me that the subject parts (like ball bearings and spring clips) should cost relative pence and owners shouldn't have to be scratching around here and there trying to find these sorts of very simple parts. Let's hope they do and can still supply these parts to their Customers, because as I see it, they should.

BertBert

19,539 posts

217 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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splitpin said:
BertBert said:
There are no spares available, so ......
Is that right BertBert? Reason for asking/querying is that end of Feb this year, Scott Hughes said that Radical had all parts in stock and could supply.

Radical make cars to compete in circuit racing, hillclimbs and sprints and as I read the Regs, it has always been the case that all of them require bike-engined cars to have a reversing arrangement capable of moving a car the not exactly demanding requirement of 3 metres backwards with one wheel able to tackle and overcome a 40mm block. Sounds to me that the subject parts (like ball bearings and spring clips) should cost relative pence and owners shouldn't have to be scratching around here and there trying to find these sorts of very simple parts. Let's hope they do and can still supply these parts to their Customers, because as I see it, they should.
Extremely happy to be proven wrong. Obviously the ball-bearings are trivial. The other bits that get mangled ie the rotating plate with the holes, the piece with the ramps and the clip were all NLA last year. I even spoke to the co that made them. In the end, radical had one reverser left and I think they scavanged bits off it for me. I just hope I dont break mine!

Bert

jpivey

572 posts

224 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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Even with new parts the reverse just doesn't work on a club/prosport i have had both cars press the button lots of noise and not alot else, John Lee from lynx ae told me he could do a kit to make it work if you look up 750mc there might be a link from there.

SportsLibre

590 posts

218 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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Also Douglas at Westgarage.co.uk has measured up my Clubsport and now reckons there is room and he could modify the diff to use his system in the unlikely event I ever feel the need for the extra weight.

I should say I still have the complete motor and assembly in my garage having eventually found all the ball bearings in Doug's drive.

tprocket

143 posts

214 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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I gave up with the Radical reverse and fitted the reverse motor and gear from Lynx AE (http://www.lynxae.co.uk/Products-Bikesports.htm)
Jon at Lynx was really helpful - I had to fabricate a mounting plate and spacers to fit the motor but the rest was simple and it works a treat !

I will try and take some photos of the installation and post them on here.

Good luck

Tim

Martin B

244 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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jpivey said:
Even with new parts the reverse just doesn't work on a club/prosport i have had both cars press the button lots of noise and not alot else
The clutch adjustment only seems to work properly for about one or two applications of the reverse before it needs adjusting again!


splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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tprocket said:
I gave up with the Radical reverse and ...... I will try and take some photos of the installation and post them on here.

Good luck

Tim
ASAP please Tim; now have more than just a geekish passing interest in this; OE appears to be fit for skip as standard, either gone AWOL or on the cusp of doing so whatever it's condition (and I have better things to do than chase ball bearings around the paddock/the garage/the driveway)laugh

ScottHughes

262 posts

201 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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Splitpin is right I spoke to Simon in parts and he supplied a new spring clip, balls, front plate with hole's, and ramp clutch assembly, they have a whole new motor! I stripped mine down and fitted all the new parts and it sort of worked... but as Martyn writes I think one key thing is the clutch adjustment... and setting the distance from the drive nut (also new) on the engine... this should be about 1-1.5mm ish from memory.

Jackard

Original Poster:

45 posts

172 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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ScottHughes said:
Splitpin is right I spoke to Simon in parts and he supplied a new spring clip, balls, front plate with hole's, and ramp clutch assembly, they have a whole new motor! I stripped mine down and fitted all the new parts and it sort of worked... but as Martyn writes I think one key thing is the clutch adjustment... and setting the distance from the drive nut (also new) on the engine... this should be about 1-1.5mm ish from memory.
Who is Simon?
Do i need to buy all the parts you listed above?
do you have the prices of the new spares parts?

BertBert

19,539 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd July 2010
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Jackard said:
ScottHughes said:
Splitpin is right I spoke to Simon in parts and he supplied a new spring clip, balls, front plate with hole's, and ramp clutch assembly, they have a whole new motor! I stripped mine down and fitted all the new parts and it sort of worked... but as Martyn writes I think one key thing is the clutch adjustment... and setting the distance from the drive nut (also new) on the engine... this should be about 1-1.5mm ish from memory.
Who is Simon?
Do i need to buy all the parts you listed above?
do you have the prices of the new spares parts?
Simon is Simon Townsend in parts at Radical. His email is:

simont at radicalsportcars dot com

On this occasion, I am very pleased to be proven wrong regarding the availability of spare parts!

Mind you doesn't look like I'll be needed clubsport reverser parts in the future biggrin

Bert

lanan

814 posts

234 months

Friday 23rd July 2010
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splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd July 2010
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Well Done That Man

For more applause, see you where party

BTW who are those happy looking smartly dressed folks? .......... I'm sure I recognise one of the faces at the front.

Edited by splitpin on Friday 23 July 22:21