Testing Times - Speads RS06D
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Obviously - because it’s not a perfect world in ‘experimental ground effect missile-ville’ - we’re putting shed loads more download through the car, so every critical suspension and braking component that was just fine until now, is suddenly pooing its pants and – in the case of the majority of the front disc bolts, shearing off - but here’s a shot of the Speads RS06D:
Leaving the pits at Brands (with me at the wheel):
and, allegedly (ahem
) holding up Gary and Shaun’s SR3 with JP at the wheel:
So it’s not back to the drawing board, but there is some work to do (and yet more money to spend) prior to our first race, on the Brands GP circuit, on 23 May.
Not withstanding - it has to be said - some bigger testicles and a little more belief.
F*ck! It's planted!
Obviously - because it’s not a perfect world in ‘experimental ground effect missile-ville’ - we’re putting shed loads more download through the car, so every critical suspension and braking component that was just fine until now, is suddenly pooing its pants and – in the case of the majority of the front disc bolts, shearing off - but here’s a shot of the Speads RS06D:
Leaving the pits at Brands (with me at the wheel):
and, allegedly (ahem
) holding up Gary and Shaun’s SR3 with JP at the wheel: So it’s not back to the drawing board, but there is some work to do (and yet more money to spend) prior to our first race, on the Brands GP circuit, on 23 May.
Not withstanding - it has to be said - some bigger testicles and a little more belief.
F*ck! It's planted!
It was a busy GP circuit trackday so, obviously, timing was out of the question and I'm also very rubbish!
Join us for the SPEED race, on 23 May (I'm sure SPEED could work out a tyre exception for a single race, and it ain't as half as expensive as you'd think) and find out.
Or, I 'spose you could just sit on t'internet and wait for TSL to come up with the goods.
Not saying it's quicker (or that I'm anything other than very rubbish) but it sure is quick for a weedy little thousand car.
and I'm also very rubbish! Join us for the SPEED race, on 23 May (I'm sure SPEED could work out a tyre exception for a single race, and it ain't as half as expensive as you'd think) and find out.
Or, I 'spose you could just sit on t'internet and wait for TSL to come up with the goods.
Not saying it's quicker (or that I'm anything other than very rubbish) but it sure is quick for a weedy little thousand car.
Edited by Count Johnny on Friday 23 April 19:38
Count Johnny said:
but it sure is quick for a weedy little thousand car.
Although I myself am a proven master of having done some things that definitely qualify as 100% illogical (and not that logic has any place in the toys we buy and nor should it), given that something like a Gixer 1000 can be made to go as hard as hell, but it gets taken to the edge of destruction that much earlier than something like a Busa and it costs just as much to tune (and probably more) to get level, why did you go the smaller engine route?Edited by splitpin on Saturday 24th April 10:58
splitpin said:
...something like a Gixer 1000 can be made to go as hard as hell, but it gets taken to the edge of destruction that much earlier than something like a Busa and it costs just as much to tune (and probably more) to get level...
Yeh! Well it takes all sorts, eh Trev?Oh, BTW, it's an '03 R1, has an race exhaust cam only, and cost me a grand for the base engine and another two for all the work. Bob Farnham did the work. He ain't no fool.
Admittedly, everything else about the car has cost me a small fortune (and I would, wholeheartedly, point the sane in the direction of Peterborough) but I just thought I'd update the folks on my folly.
splitpin said:
...Hopefully, it's now got a huge amount more poke than a near enough two year old to the day vid I was watching the other day when even humbly endowed Clubbies were pulling away from you easily ......... in a straight line.
It's lovely to learn that you follow me so closely, but you really should (and, remember, I am rubbish) check out the car's (albeit) limited results before committing index fingers to keyboard.Anyhoo. This wasn't supposed to be about me, or Radical. As above, I was merely trying to introduce a little variety.
Gosh! You're a funny chap.
And just when I thought we were getting on to the good of all.
And for my final word on the subject - unless anyone's got some aero/engineering interest in the project (which was the intention of my post) - here's the video to which Trevor refers:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5927489...
Like I say - and as is obvious from the footage - I'm very sh*ite but (even in its overweight, standard aero, 125bhp form) the car ain't no fool.
Unlike some of us...
Gosh! you're a funny chap.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5927489...
Like I say - and as is obvious from the footage - I'm very sh*ite but (even in its overweight, standard aero, 125bhp form) the car ain't no fool.
Unlike some of us...
Gosh! you're a funny chap.
Exactly right Scott
The wing profile is specifically designed to work in the aerodynamic shadow of the car – our cars would more or less hardly move with the drag that would be created in free air – and, especially, to really activate the tunnels and underfloor thanks to the extremely low pressure region beneath the wing.
This works so well that, if we increase the secondary flap angle on the rear wing, we see an increase in front downforce that is up to 40% of the rear downforce increase.
As you kindly point out, it looks quite nice too. Oh, and it weighs 430kg wet.
CJS
The wing profile is specifically designed to work in the aerodynamic shadow of the car – our cars would more or less hardly move with the drag that would be created in free air – and, especially, to really activate the tunnels and underfloor thanks to the extremely low pressure region beneath the wing.
This works so well that, if we increase the secondary flap angle on the rear wing, we see an increase in front downforce that is up to 40% of the rear downforce increase.
As you kindly point out, it looks quite nice too. Oh, and it weighs 430kg wet.
CJS
Hi Mark
It’s almost unheard of for ‘me’ and ‘reasoning’ to appear on the same page, but our idea is that if you build a car that’s light and clever enough, you don’t have to double the national debt buying monster engines and that the shortfall in terms of out and out power (especially torque) can be mitigated by having less mass to accelerate, decelerate and corner along with lot’s of lovely down force with a minimised drag penalty.
Of course, to do this you do have to build a very light and very clever car, and my car ain’t quite light and clever enough, yet, but I reckon it could be.
And yes, for the money I’ve spent, I could have bought a WF1 Stohr (or a couple of PR6s) but that would be too easy.
In case it isn't obvious, I like to plough my own furrow (and I need my head feeling).
CJS
It’s almost unheard of for ‘me’ and ‘reasoning’ to appear on the same page, but our idea is that if you build a car that’s light and clever enough, you don’t have to double the national debt buying monster engines and that the shortfall in terms of out and out power (especially torque) can be mitigated by having less mass to accelerate, decelerate and corner along with lot’s of lovely down force with a minimised drag penalty.
Of course, to do this you do have to build a very light and very clever car, and my car ain’t quite light and clever enough, yet, but I reckon it could be.
And yes, for the money I’ve spent, I could have bought a WF1 Stohr (or a couple of PR6s) but that would be too easy.
In case it isn't obvious, I like to plough my own furrow (and I need my head feeling).
CJS
jp-speed-triple said:
Count Johnny said:
and, allegedly (ahem ) holding up Gary and Shaun’s SR3 with JP at the wheel:
Twillalcomeootintwash) holding up Gary and Shaun’s SR3 with JP at the wheel: 
gaxor said:
jp-speed-triple said:
Count Johnny said:
and, allegedly (ahem ) holding up Gary and Shaun’s SR3 with JP at the wheel:
Twillalcomeootintwash) holding up Gary and Shaun’s SR3 with JP at the wheel: 
splitpin said:
Here's the Stohr WF1 optional bi-plane in the carbon fibre option.
Aero-wise, looks to me to be combining the best of both world's?
Indeed a thing of great beauty, but the consequences of even a relatively light tap up the rear?
Jolly lovely though it is, it's actually very draggy, produces rather less downforce and (I understand) it's difficult to achieve balance without resorting to those nasty diveplanes.Aero-wise, looks to me to be combining the best of both world's?
Indeed a thing of great beauty, but the consequences of even a relatively light tap up the rear?
As you say - in both cases - the consequences of even a light tap up the a*rse would land you with a $3000 US bill and the pain of shipping stuff from the west coast.
And if the wing goes on the missing list in a really fast corner, you get instant loss of downforce (because the wing fundametally influences most of the aero, pretty much all of it) followed by one BIG accident.
Edited by Count Johnny on Sunday 25th April 14:43
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