Pro 6 Set up Advice??

Pro 6 Set up Advice??

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jbreakell

Original Poster:

78 posts

237 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Hi Guys,

Well picked up the Pro 6 on Tuesday and I have to say I am very impressed with it. Radical have done an awesome job with it and I reckon it is in just as good condition as when it was new. (Well just about anyway)

Next thing on the Agenda is to gather some set up info.

Does anyone have any Race setup Data for a Dry setup as well as a wet setup for the Pro 6??
Also is the Radical standard setup acceptable for racing or do people generally make a few changes????

Cheers in advance guys



J

DaveK-S1

286 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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James

Who's car did you buy ?

Dave

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Couple of weeks ago, I said the grapevine had it down as the red one i.e. CM's. Now we'll see how reliable the grapevine is.

Last year's Club Cup winning car, just the odd kissing with the likes of JW & DL, so should be a good 'un.

Recollect that MA's bought JW's & MB's bought DL's ....... they're still removing the miles of gaffer tape off RS's apparently laugh

jpivey

572 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Set up details on ya bike son, find out the hard way. Only joking hehe

200mm front ride height
150mm rear

positive camber on the front
Never check the rear

Each wheel pointing where ever.

Tyre pressures a good kick will do....

Only Joking

I would have thought that the car would have been checked at the factory maybe back to factory settings, well that's what is says in the adverts 100 point check isn't it...smile

Which one is it then

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Brilliant JPI. rofl

Particularly like the tips about ride height. Forget "Gentlemen, start your engines" more like "Crew, prepare for take off".

Hope James is not in the garage trying to find those kisses ......... afterall, they were only affectionate Irish 'howdedodeer" ones biggrin

jbreakell

Original Poster:

78 posts

237 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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HAHAHAHAHAHA Very funny JPI.
Ye the factory has given it the once over.

I was just really looking for a couple of friendly tips but it seems that the only ones I will get are tips like "Don't eat yellow snow" and "Never trust a woman with an Adams apple".

Anyway ye, I got a bit of a mix match of a car really.
The car is Colin Miller’s old one but it has the white body work off the Autosport show car and what seems to be most of DSL's olds wheels. Couple that with a new 1340cc engine it’s a right bobby dazzler.

So Anymore pearls of wisdom guys as far as set-up is concerned???


Simon T

2,136 posts

279 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Hi, I think you will find that in any one make championship the difference between the front few rows of the grid is mostly down to set up. Given that I guess few people will be willing to give data earned through expensive testing and race day expirience, especially on a public forum... No harm in asking though. smile

FWIW I would recommend a day's testing, start with the factory set up and stick to it till you can't get your lap times any quicker, then - stick with it, you will go quicker, seat time is what counts. After that it's down to how you want the car to handle and how it feels on the current settings.Happy to discuss more if you want to chat, drop me a mail with your number


Simon

barryv12

114 posts

191 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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children play nicely...drop me an email james and i will put you in touch with jon white i am sure he will steer (ha ha) you in the right direction

Simon T

2,136 posts

279 months

Saturday 13th February 2010
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barryv12 said:
children play nicely...
Eh?

Simon

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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jbreakell said:
The car is Colin Miller’s old one but it has the white body work off the Autosport show car and what seems to be most of DSL's olds wheels. Couple that with a new 1340cc engine it’s a right bobby dazzler
Hi James

While I think of it, you've probably got it covered already, but just to be sure, given it's change of colour, don't forget to get it's CCLB updated.

As the MSA are quite busy at the moment, I'd play it belts & braces; take a colour full record copy and send it registered post.

Simon T

2,136 posts

279 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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Whats a CCLB?

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gaxor

331 posts

259 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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Competition Car Log Book - See below for extract from Blue Book

Competition Car Log Books (CCLB)
2.1. Competition Car Log Books are required for certain sporting disciplines, as detailed in the Specific Regulations. CCLBs are available from International, National ‘A’ or National ‘B’ Scrutineers. Vehicle inspections can be arranged by appointment with an appropriate local scrutineer.

Not required for Radical Clubmans Cup or any of the other races I have been involved with - so far anyway

Gary


Simon T

2,136 posts

279 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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Ah OK, thanks never seen one of those

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splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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As it appears, sorry for the red herring.

As it was not road registered, we needed one to go sprinting with the SR4; and at the event, the MSA Scrut actually asked us to produce it.

I think the logic is that with sprinting (compared to circuit racing), there are less compulsories/requirements and the scrutineering at the event is thus less intensive; often loads of cars and just the one Scrut going round the cars rather than the cars going to a proper scrutineering bay; hence a more comprehensively scrutineered base permit (such as petrol tank shielding etc) to avoid someone turning up 'out of the blue' with what could be a non road registered death trap.

The requirement for a CCLB is something for the newbie competitors entering the ROC SC 2010 to note.

jbreakell

Original Poster:

78 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Cheers guys,

Some decent tips there.

Simon, I Agree with the Seat time Comment and I am guna do some track and test days in March I think. I have one booked at Silverstone I think which if they have finished it I will get to go on the new GP circuit Layout.

Well looking forward to it.

J

ScottHughes

262 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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I'm not sure that track days will be much use as you can't always drive at full speed? if you are trying to find the limit/learn to drive on the limit a proper test day would be better and you normally get more track time on a test day.

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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As those who attended the ROC Inaugural Trackday @ Silverstone last year will confirm, not an issue on such as a ROC or Radical EXCLUSIVELY RADICAL Trackday.

In fact, logic tells me that there could be more frustration on a General Testing Day: OK, they are all likely to be racers and quick in their respective cars, but aren't those Ginettas, Minis, Clios etc etc with their hugely inferior braking and mechanical grip likely to be holding you up pretty regularly?

Count Johnny

715 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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splitpin said:
... aren't those Ginettas, Minis, Clios etc etc with their hugely inferior braking and mechanical grip likely to be holding you up pretty regularly?
Isn't that what straights, corners and braking zones are for? smile

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Count Johnny said:
Isn't that what straights, corners and braking zones are for? smile
Surely maximising one's 'on the limit' knowledge and pace comes through being able to join those elements up - SAC - for instance @ Silverstone GP, arriving just in time to be held up by a gaggle of Ginettas (all concentrating on one another rather than some low slung barely visible car coming up behind) through Maggotts/Becketts/Chapel, clearing them down Hangar and then arriving just in time to be held up by a medley of Minis through Priory/Luffield (again all concentrating on one another rather than some low slung barely visible car coming up behind) is hardly accordant with that objective.

That simply didn't happen at the ROC Inaugural Trackday, because although the pace of the individual drivers varied hugely, everyone was driving cars of near identical performance envelope characteristics. Much safer; no sign whatsoever of the usual trackday problem of someone letting you through pretty late, then watching your tailights and suddenly realising that a such as a Radical brakes way way later than most other cars, theirs included. Wish I had a £ for every car I've seen squirming about in the rear view mirrors wondering for that split second whether they are about to go straight on and take out the rear of ours en route.

Count Johnny

715 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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LOL