1300 busa SR3/4/PR6 vs ADR3?

1300 busa SR3/4/PR6 vs ADR3?

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fergus

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6,430 posts

281 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Having seen the ADR cars at 'RaceCarLive' at Brands yesterday, I was wondering if anyone has any lap times of the ADR cars competing against Radicals? Which Rad would people suggest the ADR3 is a direct competitor for?

I presume the PR6 are still the quickest?

dsl2

1,475 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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From what I've seen of ADR's thus far, any Radical that's still in the trailer behind the tow car would be quicker.....

RobC

967 posts

290 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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dsl2 said:
From what I've seen of ADR's thus far, any Radical that's still in the trailer behind the tow car would be quicker.....
What he said biggrin

jpivey

572 posts

224 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Classic Darren!!!
To be honest they are a well put together car a friend of mine was racing the v de v spec car in OSS this year, don't think the company has the money to develop them.

fergus

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6,430 posts

281 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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so no actual lap time comparisons then?!

nick997

609 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Try some of the results from Bikesports races on the 750mc website, fairly sure they had some ADR's racing in the past (2008/7 perhaps?). Not sure on type of ADR and ability of drivers.

jp-speed-triple

1,504 posts

193 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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nick997 said:
Try some of the results from Bikesports races on the 750mc website, fairly sure they had some ADR's racing in the past (2008/7 perhaps?). Not sure on type of ADR and ability of drivers.
...or how many laps they completed before breaking down....again.

Count Johnny

715 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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All that glisters...whistle

fergus

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281 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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jp-speed-triple said:
nick997 said:
Try some of the results from Bikesports races on the 750mc website, fairly sure they had some ADR's racing in the past (2008/7 perhaps?). Not sure on type of ADR and ability of drivers.
...or how many laps they completed before breaking down....again.
engine or other mechanical problem?

BertBert

19,539 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Clearly ADR are a very small outfit to be creating cars. I was looking at them a couple of years ago when I was thinking it'd be fun to have one on the road rolleyes

Unfortunately, they are under-developed in comparison with the more established manufacters which is where any reliability problems will come from.

Bert

fergus

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281 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Sorry to be a pedant here, but can anyone give me actual examples of 'unreliability' or 'under-development'? Radical didn't start out as a major outfit either!

Slightly disappointed by Rad. Went to 'Race Car Live' at the weekend, and despite showing obvious interest in theirs cars, I was completely ignored. Whereas the ADR guys were a lot more approachable and friendly. The Rad garage seemed to be full of 'friends of radical'.

jp-speed-triple

1,504 posts

193 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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fergus said:
Sorry to be a pedant here, but can anyone give me actual examples of 'unreliability' or 'under-development'? Radical didn't start out as a major outfit either!

Slightly disappointed by Rad. Went to 'Race Car Live' at the weekend, and despite showing obvious interest in theirs cars, I was completely ignored. Whereas the ADR guys were a lot more approachable and friendly. The Rad garage seemed to be full of 'friends of radical'.
Fergus, please feel free to PM me and I'll put you in touch with two ADR owners. you can get it straight from the horses...

Nothing wrong with small manufacturers in my eyes having owned and run a T5 Mission without major issues...one of I think 6 that exist. Its not what you do, its how you do it that counts.

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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fergus said:
Slightly disappointed by Rad. Went to 'Race Car Live' at the weekend, and despite showing obvious interest in theirs cars, I was completely ignored. Whereas the ADR guys were a lot more approachable and friendly. The Rad garage seemed to be full of 'friends of radical'.
Not getting noticed is presumably just one of the several downsides of being such a reet shortass hehe

Aside from passing on my late Pop's tip that a blank cheque tucked into the trim of a trilby used to work wonders, YHM.

Count Johnny

715 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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fergus said:
Slightly disappointed by Rad. Went to 'Race Car Live' at the weekend, and despite showing obvious interest in theirs cars, I was completely ignored. Whereas the ADR guys were a lot more approachable and friendly. The Rad garage seemed to be full of 'friends of radical'.
Watch out for the Radical Thought Police, Fergus!

This is, after all (as I have often been reminded - because I'm naughty) a Radical forum. Are Willbee and Splitpin on holiday, or something?

Anyway, as indicated by my previous post, ADRs are beautifully built; feature lots of lovely gold anodizing; and (as you found out) are sold by a consummate salesman and some nice people.

I've got my hands dirty on them on many occasions, so you could contact me directly if you wish.

This said. I've just been copied into JP's email, giving you contact details for actual owners of ADR product, so will allow you to form your own opinion.

fergus

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6,430 posts

281 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Guys

Thanks for the feedback. I'm aware this is a Rad forum, however, I'm trying to do some homework prior to pulling the trigger in the new year. I'm inclined to go down the Rad route, but it would stupid not to look at the competition/alternatives? scratchchin

barryv12

114 posts

191 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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let me give you both sides of the coin i have a very close fried who had a horrendous time with ADR once he had ordered a car it all ended very acrimoniously if you want more details you can email me. As radical owner of three different models you had better get used to being ignored. great product and there are some realy good people there but one or two people there have an unusual take on customer service.

Count Johnny

715 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Fergus

Does this help at all?


BertBert

19,539 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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fergus said:
Guys

Thanks for the feedback. I'm aware this is a Rad forum, however, I'm trying to do some homework prior to pulling the trigger in the new year. I'm inclined to go down the Rad route, but it would stupid not to look at the competition/alternatives? scratchchin
Indeed you would be Fergus. From my comment that you asked about earlier...

I investigated the ADR and went and saw them. Really nice guy and super looking shiny CNC'd parts.

I was put off for two reasons. One was that the propised developments took months and months and didn't seem to arrive, so I got bored. The second was the reports of things failing. So no specifics, and could all be over-stated, but that seemed as to be expected of small development budgets. At the time I was enjoying the caterham-small-development-budgets experience so didn't want two on the go!

Bert

fergus

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Wednesday 25th November 2009
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BertBert said:
At the time I was enjoying the caterham-small-development-budgets experience so didn't want two on the go!
thumbup cheers Graham!

jp-speed-triple

1,504 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Count Johnny said:
Fergus

Does this help at all?

Oh, cheers! that'll be me missing from the grid then. of all the ones with mediocre ADR performances..you pick that one. rolleyes

Could have picked the cadwell round when all three adr's failed to make the grid having set off for qually and didn't get up the mountain on lap one? paperbag