Anyone Looking For a '185' ZZR1100?

Anyone Looking For a '185' ZZR1100?

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Scotty-Boy

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532 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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I'll probably be listing my engine for sale fairly soon - thought I'd offer PH members first-dibs before I get round to it!

185 Powertec ZZR1100
Keihin FCR39 Flat Slides
Dynacoils
Dry Sumped

Scotty-Boy

Original Poster:

532 posts

198 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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Decided to keep the bigger and turbo it!

ScottHughes

262 posts

201 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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Interesting...What mods are required to the engine and what power is gained..? I think it would still count as less than 2.0L for racing purpose's!

Edited by ScottHughes on Friday 10th April 18:35

Scotty-Boy

Original Poster:

532 posts

198 months

Saturday 11th April 2009
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Not planning on changing any internals... taking my lead from the ZZR bike-tuning boys - low boost is (apparently) safe for 225-ish BHP on stock engine.

Got a great deal on a variable-vane blower and ZZR manifold, so will keep install costs reasonable (and WELL below the cost of a Busa install).

Will let you know when it all goes horribly wrong and the engine explodes... lol!

ScottHughes

262 posts

201 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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I don't know about yours but as my 1100 is running a big bore kit and 13.75/1 comp ratio can you still run a turbo? or would I need to reduce the comp ratio first.. I would have thought the standard rods were a bit dodgy?

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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ScottHughes said:
I don't know about yours but as my 1100 is running a big bore kit and 13.75/1 comp ratio can you still run a turbo? or would I need to reduce the comp ratio first.. I would have thought the standard rods were a bit dodgy?
Stick a turbo on a an engine with a comp ratio like that and it'll be atomized; 'starting point' for four cylinder turbo engines is usually a compression ratio of around about 7:1: I've come across turbo Kwacker engines running just over 9:1, but it usually involves some very special (and appreciably pricey) kit, pistons, rods, cranks, water injection, clutch etc etc.

Turbocharging bike engines that weren't produced with turbochargers and started life with a pretty high compression ratio is pretty specialist even compared to car engines and frankly, I'd stick to tuned naturally aspirated. IMHO going turbo on the premise of cheap power is usually an illusion.

RobC

967 posts

290 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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splitpin said:
IMHO going turbo on the premise of cheap power is usually an illusion.
No truer word said

LCM

444 posts

203 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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.............or run it on methanol?

This could be an option worth exploring with a specialist eg TTS

Methanol has a reputation for causing fuel system corrosion but I suspect that this has much to do with its hygroscopic qualities. By adopting non-atmospheric handling regimes that border on the obsessive, a friend has run a Honda VTEC on methanol for many years with no apparent fuel system problems.

Scotty-Boy

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532 posts

198 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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AFAIK my engine has the stock 11.0:1.

Will be lowering the CR considerably (most probably with a spacer - not the best solution, but if I get a summer of turbo fun out of it before it gets completely shagged then I'll be more than happy)!

Busa for next winters upgrade... just can't afford it at the mo!

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