Lifting Car

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yellowrad

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39 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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What is the easiest way people have found to get their Radical's on stands? I'm trying to find out the most efficient (and cheapest) way of approaching this.

I only have a single garage so have limited space, but obviously need to get the car in the air to get the undertray off to check and clean underneath.

I'm thinking about the block and chain approach into the garage ceiling but it sound a bit precarious,

Cheers

SportsLibre

590 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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I have a chain lift from the roof but the aeme effect can be achieved using an engine hoist crane try Machine Mart or similar.

911hillclimber

486 posts

201 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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Not all rooves can tolerate 500Kg hanging off a single point and my Machine Mart engine hoist I think is not rated 500Kg with the reach you might need to got high enough and to the cenre of the car. My Lola sports racer may be wider than a radial, but not by much.

I get my low car up on stands bit by bit by progressive jacking up and blocks. Tedious but about 20 mins to get it 600mm off the ground.

Takes longer coming down.

I think Machine M do an engine hoist that is a cross beam with two side frames and a block and tackle? Might be the best option?

nick997

609 posts

214 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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911hillclimber said:
I think Machine M do an engine hoist that is a cross beam with two side frames and a block and tackle? Might be the best option?
Tweeks do one of these, page 379 of 2008 catalogue. About 4 times the cost of a 1 ton engine hoist though noting your comment on cost.

BertBert has some nice photos of how he lifted his car using an engine hoist, I'm sure he'll be along soon with a linky for you.

Nick

DaveK-S1

286 posts

207 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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911

I used to lift the Force by using 4 pieces of 8" x 2" x 2ft long with a taper cut for half the length. You can then "drive" the car up the ramps.

This raises the car up enough that you can get a bigger trolley jack underneath the car that raises the car up enough to put on chassis stands that you can work under.

BertBert

19,535 posts

217 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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To serve is my goal...
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562456895zhjd...
The order of events was something like:

front up on quicklift
thread engine crane in
lift front onto stand
crane to just aft of middle
lift back onto axle stands to give clearance for the crane
crane fully aft to lift the rear onto the stand

Bit of a pita actually.

I have now had a beam installed on brick pillars and use a chain hoist on the roll bar. Much easier and not super expensive!

Bert

splitpin

2,740 posts

204 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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Rear end-wise (in the nicest possible way!), both Willbee and me being skinny blokes, to do what we've needed to do so far (stuff like oil change / clean up / nut & bolt check / linkage lubes etc), we've found we don't need to get it too far up in the air, so we've managed by getting the undertray off and then getting the rear end tilted up about 500mm on axle stands, not forgeting proper chocking on the front end. Until I found out about doing it the Factory Way, our biggest head scratcher was figuring how to get the rear undertray/diffuser off. Factory way is to release it (two bolts at rear end, ties middish point, sitting onto holder lip ledge at front end) drop it down, then roll the car forward over it's edges and then clear of it; sounds horrific, but with wide slicks and low weight, it works a treat; just make absolutely sure there is no debris (like stones) whatsoever between the undertray undertray and the ground (meaning good solid flat concrete/paving). We put a thin sheet of ply between the ground and the tray just to be sure.

Obviously, all a bit basic and cramped compared to the stuff that the other guys have outlined and shown, but touchwood, so far it's been sufficient for us, therefore hope it might help. byebye

gixermark

744 posts

193 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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i thought this was my recent post back up again...

I am planning to weld a decent sized piece of box section up the walls and across the top pf the shed roofalong the current structure, and bolting to the ground with welded base plates.. then either using a chain block or on of the electric hoists - the latter if i can find asuitable one at decent cost - as it means you can be more flexible to support the car when it is in limbo !!

Mark.

911hillclimber

486 posts

201 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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BertBert:
Nice plane! I like the Ben Buckle stuff personally.

A custon roof beam is a good move as you can proof load it bt lifting the car up 2'' and leaving it over night. Add weight to give a little 'factor of safety'!

Dave: Dave Parr donated an over-centre flat jack to get a real high lift trolly jack under and away you go.

Graham

BertBert

19,535 posts

217 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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Thanks Graham, the plane is actually going to be sold (not that it's worth a huge amount), but it's in the way as my son has gone to uni and is not that interested (we have others anyway). I never got to fly the planes, but I have just taken up heli's. Now there's a nice expensive hobby!

BErt

SportsLibre

590 posts

218 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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911hillclimber said:
Not all rooves can tolerate 500Kg hanging off a single point
forgoy to mention it is hanging from a girder