SVA cost for an SR3/4?

SVA cost for an SR3/4?

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fergus

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6,430 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Does anyone know the approximate cost of putting a race ready SR3 or SR4 through the SVA test (needed for the Ring)?

gixermark

744 posts

193 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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you sure it needs SVA for the ring ??

when i was last there on a bike, there were loads of bikers there from the UK with race/track bikes in vans etc... they just added a number plate to the back....

I imagine with a radical - as long as it has the lights, and a number plate they'd be fine as long as you were happy to 'risk' it ?

Mark.

fergus

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281 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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gixermark said:
you sure it needs SVA for the ring ??

when i was last there on a bike, there were loads of bikers there from the UK with race/track bikes in vans etc... they just added a number plate to the back....

I imagine with a radical - as long as it has the lights, and a number plate they'd be fine as long as you were happy to 'risk' it ?

Mark.
'risking it' is fine until you have a crash. Whether it be into the armco on your own or worse, with another vehicle, the n'Ring staff will want to see your registration papers. If there is damage to either party, or anyone is hurt, the feds ask to see your insurance.

getting caught running a race bike there will see you with a massive fine, if not banged up for the night as a minimum. Your bike may also be confiscated. If you injure someone, they could sue you and you would be f**ked!

I was there over the weekend, and even though it was p1ssing down with rain, I decided against running the heavily cut slicks I had with me for my caterham due to my insurers probably not covering me in the event of a ding.

I'm thinking of a switch to a Radical, but want to be able to use it on the Ring, hence the SVA question.

Do people think an SR3/4 could stand up to a 30 lap day at the Ring w/o something breaking? I understand that the driveshafts are from a ford Ka and are a weak point, although I know people have had custom made heavy duty ones.

Any tips about what to replace in order to increase the longevity of parts would be appreciated.

Has anyone asked one of the bike fairing manufacturers to take a mould to make cheap 'pattern' body panels, or does any one already do this?

gixermark

744 posts

193 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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insurance won't cover you at eth ring anyway.. so its pretty much at your risk.. haven't heard of teh feds there checking for insurance/registration - but that may well be the case.. i know the fines for damaging armo, closing the track for x time etc can be hefty.. let alone the recovery truck... and ambulance shoudl it be required..

we road there on legal road bikes.. and given we had to ride back (to ireland) we rode accordingly.. unlike many others on 2 and 4 wheels who eneded up in the armco..

fergus

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6,430 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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gixermark said:
insurance won't cover you at eth ring anyway..
partly correct. Most policies will not offer 1st party cover, but have to honour 3rd party claims. Whether you are then pursued is another story...

gixermark said:
haven't heard of teh feds there checking for insurance/registration - but that may well be the case..
feds only get involved in the event of an accident involving >1 person. I had an armco interface on saturday and the N'Ring staff wouldn't release the car until they'd seen the V5.

gixermark said:
i know the fines for damaging armo, closing the track for x time etc can be hefty.. let alone the recovery truck... and ambulance shoudl it be required..
ADAC membership means the recovery is free. This also covers the ambulance/med-evac cost. A friend got billed around EUR 450 for 4m of armco on friday, so it soon adds up.


touching cloth

11,706 posts

245 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Easier option would be to take it over for private TD's and avoid TF, something like this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


BertBert

19,534 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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according to the blurb, you'll need...

road lights, switches, hand brake, quiet silencer with catalytic converter, rear view mirrors, bodywork trim and collapsible steering column

Sounds pricy to me, £2-3k?

Bert

nick997

609 posts

214 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Bert's spot on. I think I have seen a sales sheet from Radical somewhere quoting 2.5k to spec a new car for the road.

Willbee

340 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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nick997 said:
Bert's spot on. I think I have seen a sales sheet from Radical somewhere quoting 2.5k to spec a new car for the road.
I believe thats the figure I remember when we asked at the radical factory.

Tim S

175 posts

215 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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fergus said:
Do people think an SR3/4 could stand up to a 30 lap day at the Ring w/o something breaking? I understand that the driveshafts are from a ford Ka and are a weak point, although I know people have had custom made heavy duty ones.
If you were on road tyres (presumably you'd use Toyo 888s or Yoko A048s or something similar) they'd put less stress on the driveshafts than slicks would.

BertBert

19,534 posts

217 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Just a thought, but 30 laps of the ring would be 4-5 hours driving, sounds ambitious for a day.

Anyway assuming you would do that or even half that at brisk speeds, I think you'd need to go with quite a lot of spares and even a spannering mate!

If you view it that you are doing a track day at the ring, then Radicals are fine doing a track day in most cases. I have only had a big breakage in one trackday in 12 (ish). But it's a long way. Take a lot of spares and mechanics!

Bert

fergus

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Friday 10th October 2008
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BertBert said:
Just a thought, but 30 laps of the ring would be 4-5 hours driving, sounds ambitious for a day.

Anyway assuming you would do that or even half that at brisk speeds, I think you'd need to go with quite a lot of spares and even a spannering mate!

If you view it that you are doing a track day at the ring, then Radicals are fine doing a track day in most cases. I have only had a big breakage in one trackday in 12 (ish). But it's a long way. Take a lot of spares and mechanics!

Bert
bert

I normally manage about 25-30 laps in my caterham if I pick my days carefully and avoid the UK bank holidays!

I travel with a lot of spares already - it's a caterham! cheers