Looking for a Radical clubsport, Prosport or SR4 ZZR1200
Discussion
Hiya guys,
I stumbled across this part of the forum while searching the interweb for a car,
I'm after a nice clean and tidy Radical that i can use for trackdays and the odd sprint when time allows.
Ideally I'd like a 2 seater as my partner enjoys passenger laps and if she's happy, life's easy.
I've not really came across anything other than the 1 rather expensive clubsport on Autotrader and a SR4 on the Radical website classifieds.
I was wondering if anyone has a car tucked away they maybe tempted to move on, or perhaps knows of a car that the owner could be persuaded to part with.
And also, does anyone have any opinion on the car on the Radical classifieds.
Thanks for your time
Gary
I stumbled across this part of the forum while searching the interweb for a car,
I'm after a nice clean and tidy Radical that i can use for trackdays and the odd sprint when time allows.
Ideally I'd like a 2 seater as my partner enjoys passenger laps and if she's happy, life's easy.
I've not really came across anything other than the 1 rather expensive clubsport on Autotrader and a SR4 on the Radical website classifieds.
I was wondering if anyone has a car tucked away they maybe tempted to move on, or perhaps knows of a car that the owner could be persuaded to part with.
And also, does anyone have any opinion on the car on the Radical classifieds.
Thanks for your time
Gary
Cheers Dan. I'm an impatient bugger so going to see this tomorrow.
http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/approvedused/d...
Can anyone offer any advice on what to look out for etc? Any how do we feel its priced?
Thanks
Gary
http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/approvedused/d...
Can anyone offer any advice on what to look out for etc? Any how do we feel its priced?
Thanks
Gary
well that should fit the bill nicely. im no expert on these but they seem to have a bit more downforce than a clubsport. although from researching and reading,lap times not much different!
ive not even been out in mine yet but it looks like nothing ive ever driven before. cant wait for a few laps.
things to consider with the sr4 your interested in;
1;has it been raced?
2;if so how long for (these race cars take some serious stick compared to your average trackdayer)
3;how long since last engine refresh?
4; how long the major components have been on the car (shelf life of parts is short if raced)
5;spares package included.(as you will need lots! wheels and tyres etc)
6;if all the above is reasonable then its all a case of money! good luck
ive not even been out in mine yet but it looks like nothing ive ever driven before. cant wait for a few laps.
things to consider with the sr4 your interested in;
1;has it been raced?
2;if so how long for (these race cars take some serious stick compared to your average trackdayer)
3;how long since last engine refresh?
4; how long the major components have been on the car (shelf life of parts is short if raced)
5;spares package included.(as you will need lots! wheels and tyres etc)
6;if all the above is reasonable then its all a case of money! good luck
Looks nice. I'd prefer hyabusa power, but that would be more expensive. As a factory car you would expect the key lifed components to be refreshed or demonstrably within their hours.
So look for fresh engine, box and drive unit and check key things - uprights, driveshafts, shocks, brakes. You need wheels for slicks and wets. Also possibly gear ratios (although you may not be bothered too much for a track day car).
HTH
Bert
So look for fresh engine, box and drive unit and check key things - uprights, driveshafts, shocks, brakes. You need wheels for slicks and wets. Also possibly gear ratios (although you may not be bothered too much for a track day car).
HTH
Bert
Hi Bert,
Speaking to Radical today, they can't say how many hours the engine, gearbox etc has done,
All they are offering is to check the engine on the dyno,and perform the usual tests to make sure it's running ok at the moment, once it leaves there workshop, who knows.
I've been looking at previously sold cars and a fair few have sold for a little less with a few spares and most had details of how many hrs the engine etc had ran. That said, I'm not sure if the price is solid of if there's room for negotiation.
The problem I have is I'm quite impulsive and would like a car now, I could raise my budget a little for a Suzuki powered car but I can't find anything for sale unless I'm not looking in the right places.
I don't want to spend vast amounts of money as I've never driven a car like this before and I'm almost certain there will be incidents during the learning process.
Are there many SR4's racing that would make it worth waiting until the seasons over and a few more will perhaps become available .
Thanks Gary
Speaking to Radical today, they can't say how many hours the engine, gearbox etc has done,
All they are offering is to check the engine on the dyno,and perform the usual tests to make sure it's running ok at the moment, once it leaves there workshop, who knows.
I've been looking at previously sold cars and a fair few have sold for a little less with a few spares and most had details of how many hrs the engine etc had ran. That said, I'm not sure if the price is solid of if there's room for negotiation.
The problem I have is I'm quite impulsive and would like a car now, I could raise my budget a little for a Suzuki powered car but I can't find anything for sale unless I'm not looking in the right places.
I don't want to spend vast amounts of money as I've never driven a car like this before and I'm almost certain there will be incidents during the learning process.
Are there many SR4's racing that would make it worth waiting until the seasons over and a few more will perhaps become available .
Thanks Gary
Of course a car from Radical is likely to be in good condition, but the last thing you want to do is to buy a used SR4 and find it needs lots of things replaced/refreshed if it's had a hard life.
Perhaps put that to them and see what they suggest?
Alternatively, there might be a few SR1s for sale at the end of the season??
Bert
Perhaps put that to them and see what they suggest?
Alternatively, there might be a few SR1s for sale at the end of the season??
Bert
GaryR1980 said:
Hi Bert,
Speaking to Radical today, they can't say how many hours the engine, gearbox etc has done,
All they are offering is to check the engine on the dyno,and perform the usual tests to make sure it's running ok at the moment, once it leaves there workshop, who knows.
I've been looking at previously sold cars and a fair few have sold for a little less with a few spares and most had details of how many hrs the engine etc had ran. That said, I'm not sure if the price is solid of if there's room for negotiation.
The problem I have is I'm quite impulsive and would like a car now, I could raise my budget a little for a Suzuki powered car but I can't find anything for sale unless I'm not looking in the right places.
I don't want to spend vast amounts of money as I've never driven a car like this before and I'm almost certain there will be incidents during the learning process.
Are there many SR4's racing that would make it worth waiting until the seasons over and a few more will perhaps become available .
Thanks Gary
Hmmm but this is what Radical say about used cars. Speaking to Radical today, they can't say how many hours the engine, gearbox etc has done,
All they are offering is to check the engine on the dyno,and perform the usual tests to make sure it's running ok at the moment, once it leaves there workshop, who knows.
I've been looking at previously sold cars and a fair few have sold for a little less with a few spares and most had details of how many hrs the engine etc had ran. That said, I'm not sure if the price is solid of if there's room for negotiation.
The problem I have is I'm quite impulsive and would like a car now, I could raise my budget a little for a Suzuki powered car but I can't find anything for sale unless I'm not looking in the right places.
I don't want to spend vast amounts of money as I've never driven a car like this before and I'm almost certain there will be incidents during the learning process.
Are there many SR4's racing that would make it worth waiting until the seasons over and a few more will perhaps become available .
Thanks Gary
> Engine hour confirmation or engine refresh with warranty by RPE
In the early stages of refurbishment the engine of your Approved Used Radical will be removed for inspection by Radical Performance Engines (RPE). Compression, leak down and a host of other tests will determine the engine’s state of health, along with interrogation of the engine’s running hours from the car’s ECU. The car is then presented with this information if engine hours are low; alternatively RPE will conduct a complete engine rebuild back to ‘zero hours’ condition, with a warranty for up to 40 racing hours on our standard model range. No other racing car manufacturer offers such a warranty.
If you're looking for something for track days then the SR4 will be fine. If you bring it to a sprint (or hillclimb), then you will likely be outclassed. Most sprints run on a capacity limit of 1800cc or 2000cc in Sports Libre, although there's the odd class for 1000cc around. That means you'll be underpowered and overweight compared to anything else out there. If you really do want to sprint the car, I'd try and curb your impulsiveness and buy something more suitable. If you just want to be the fastest thing at a track day, then the SR4 is a great choice. I know nothing of the roundy-roundy scene as I get bored after a couple of laps.
If you're happy about everything else with the car/history tell radical you'll take it with a fresh engine rebuild for the asking price?
A prosport sounds just the ticket though imo (with the exception of the second seat), have you tried the various race car ad websites? I forget all their names but usually just google it.
Dunc.
A prosport sounds just the ticket though imo (with the exception of the second seat), have you tried the various race car ad websites? I forget all their names but usually just google it.
Dunc.
Edited by dunc_sx on Friday 6th September 12:30
Thanks everyone for the time to respond,
Steve, Dan bought that car, looks like it was an absolute bargain.
Circuits would be where I spent. Time and if I'm 100% honest with myself I don't think I would do sprints and hillclimbs.
The plan for me was sort of to get a car, have a play in it, see how things go and possibly move onto A season or 2 in the SR1 and see how things progress.
The second seat is quite a big thing for me as I've always enjoyed doing trackdays with friends and I'm fortunate enough to have a partner that enjoys being thrown round a race track in the passenger seat of a car
Anyway..
I've been to Radical today, hadn't realised it was quite so far from me in Maidenhead but ho hum.
Spent an hr with a chap named Roger as all the others are at Spa.
The car itself is very well presented, and remarkably clean for a 2006 track car.
It's mainly been used for trackdays and has always been serviced and looked after at Radical.
There are no spares, wheels, tyres etc included in the price and a set of wets would be a must, I believe that the wheels are 4 stud and not centre locks so that may make buying a set cheaper?
The offer on the table at the moment is, that car will be checked over and anything approaching the end of its life will be replaced, the car will be put on the dyno and the engine checked to make sure that its healthy.
He was a little vague on details but it was mentioned that they would be willing to replace anything that broke or failed on the first 2 or 3 outings aslong as the failure was through no fault of my own.
The other thing offered was that the car will be handed over at a track of my choice and a Radical tech will spend the day with my making sure everything runs smoothly and going through anything I may need to know.
I didn't make an offer as I know the cars not going anywhere this weekend with them all being away but I got the impression the price was pretty solid, with little or no room to negotiate but I maybe wrong.
I really like the car and color combination, I think what Radical are offering is decent but I have a small concern about the engine although the ZZR1200 are fairly cheap these days anyway.
A weekend to ponder I think..
Steve, Dan bought that car, looks like it was an absolute bargain.
Circuits would be where I spent. Time and if I'm 100% honest with myself I don't think I would do sprints and hillclimbs.
The plan for me was sort of to get a car, have a play in it, see how things go and possibly move onto A season or 2 in the SR1 and see how things progress.
The second seat is quite a big thing for me as I've always enjoyed doing trackdays with friends and I'm fortunate enough to have a partner that enjoys being thrown round a race track in the passenger seat of a car
Anyway..
I've been to Radical today, hadn't realised it was quite so far from me in Maidenhead but ho hum.
Spent an hr with a chap named Roger as all the others are at Spa.
The car itself is very well presented, and remarkably clean for a 2006 track car.
It's mainly been used for trackdays and has always been serviced and looked after at Radical.
There are no spares, wheels, tyres etc included in the price and a set of wets would be a must, I believe that the wheels are 4 stud and not centre locks so that may make buying a set cheaper?
The offer on the table at the moment is, that car will be checked over and anything approaching the end of its life will be replaced, the car will be put on the dyno and the engine checked to make sure that its healthy.
He was a little vague on details but it was mentioned that they would be willing to replace anything that broke or failed on the first 2 or 3 outings aslong as the failure was through no fault of my own.
The other thing offered was that the car will be handed over at a track of my choice and a Radical tech will spend the day with my making sure everything runs smoothly and going through anything I may need to know.
I didn't make an offer as I know the cars not going anywhere this weekend with them all being away but I got the impression the price was pretty solid, with little or no room to negotiate but I maybe wrong.
I really like the car and color combination, I think what Radical are offering is decent but I have a small concern about the engine although the ZZR1200 are fairly cheap these days anyway.
A weekend to ponder I think..
Sorry if I wasn't clear Duncan.
They are doing everything prior to the sale being completed.
I think with them being in Spa this weekend and Frankfurt next weekend things are a little unsettled.
In hindsight. They should probably have had the car inspected and any work done before it was listed for sale although I'm sure it had a reasonable going over before they agreed to take it in part exchange?
They are doing everything prior to the sale being completed.
I think with them being in Spa this weekend and Frankfurt next weekend things are a little unsettled.
In hindsight. They should probably have had the car inspected and any work done before it was listed for sale although I'm sure it had a reasonable going over before they agreed to take it in part exchange?
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