Discussion
maxgas said:
So I thought I would start a new topic on this one.
I have been told that the k7 can do more hours then the k8 by mark Rogers.
Bert/bert said it is twaddle.
Anyone care to enlighten me. I am going to the factory soon so will see what they say, but I thought the newer engine was better?
I say that because Radical had the same hours between rebuilds for the K7 and K8s. 1340 - 40 hours, 1500 - 30 hours.I have been told that the k7 can do more hours then the k8 by mark Rogers.
Bert/bert said it is twaddle.
Anyone care to enlighten me. I am going to the factory soon so will see what they say, but I thought the newer engine was better?
Good of you to take the 'heat' BertBert ........ I was actually the one who called it 'twaddle' 
As MaxGas is making a visit, safe to say we can leave it to PowerTed (he who has likely forgotten more about Busas than any of us on here will ever know) to clarify stuff; I can only assume the misinfo to do with K8s arises from the initial (significant) difficulties which Powertec/RPE (therefore Customers) had with the K8 when they first stroked that version rather than upto and including K7.
As MaxGas is making a visit, safe to say we can leave it to PowerTed (he who has likely forgotten more about Busas than any of us on here will ever know) to clarify stuff; I can only assume the misinfo to do with K8s arises from the initial (significant) difficulties which Powertec/RPE (therefore Customers) had with the K8 when they first stroked that version rather than upto and including K7.
Oops ! Sorry bert/bert been a long week and did not have my brain in gear.
Well I guess what I need to know is what would be the ideal car/engine combo for me given that I am not racing it,
Reliability is important, but so is resale just in case I get bored or want to go faster.
I know you will probably say go for the 1300 but then will I start thinking I should have got the 1500, you can never have enough power spiral, and so on.
What would you do?
Well I guess what I need to know is what would be the ideal car/engine combo for me given that I am not racing it,
Reliability is important, but so is resale just in case I get bored or want to go faster.
I know you will probably say go for the 1300 but then will I start thinking I should have got the 1500, you can never have enough power spiral, and so on.
What would you do?
Very much down to budget, ability to manhandle etc etc etc, but from the point of view of trackdays (therefore two seats presumably required/preferred) and widest possible resale market (i.e. to include the racers - btw, you won't get bored, but just occasionally you might get frustrated) personally I would say a properly fettled and refreshed 1500 (1475cc) SR3RS say late 2009/2010 with the (duly updated) OEM Paddleshift.*
IMHO, the stroker 1500 (whether K7 or K8) isn't as strong or as sweet as either the upto and including K7 1299 or K8 1340, but that shouldn't effect the 1500s reliability in trackday use - there's absolutely no need (and not much opportunity most of the time) to rev the nuts off a 1500 on a trackday - when you've got the hang of the downforce thingy, 99.9% of the time you'll comfortably be the quickest 'funny little plastic car' out there.
IMHO, the stroker 1500 (whether K7 or K8) isn't as strong or as sweet as either the upto and including K7 1299 or K8 1340, but that shouldn't effect the 1500s reliability in trackday use - there's absolutely no need (and not much opportunity most of the time) to rev the nuts off a 1500 on a trackday - when you've got the hang of the downforce thingy, 99.9% of the time you'll comfortably be the quickest 'funny little plastic car' out there.
- Ideally a red one - just like every marque, they are always the fastest
splitpin said:
99.9% of the time you'll comfortably be the quickest 'funny little plastic car' out there.
Which is why I think that the SR3RS and trackdays are a complete waste of time - sooooo frustrating.
Bert
I was at setterton recently with book a track and there were 3 radicals there and they all seemed happy , with no one holding them up too much as far as I know. I was speaking to the drivers and it did not seem a problem.
I think it depends who the organiser is and who really attends on the day, but I think it takes 2 to tango, so it is down to both
the guy in the fast car being patient , and the slower car moving over when he can because they have the same right to be n the track. I am sure it may get frustrating , but normally if I see a radical coming I get well and truly out of the way ASAP.
Try bat next time , it is well organised and they use blue flags and lights.
99.9% of the time you'll comfortably be the quickest 'funny little plastic car' out there.
Which is why I think that the SR3RS and trackdays are a complete waste of time - sooooo frustrating.
Bert
I was at setterton recently with book a track and there were 3 radicals there and they all seemed happy , with no one holding them up too much as far as I know. I was speaking to the drivers and it did not seem a problem.
I think it depends who the organiser is and who really attends on the day, but I think it takes 2 to tango, so it is down to both
the guy in the fast car being patient , and the slower car moving over when he can because they have the same right to be n the track. I am sure it may get frustrating , but normally if I see a radical coming I get well and truly out of the way ASAP.
Try bat next time , it is well organised and they use blue flags and lights.
splitpin said:
No problem being quoted ......... but don't do the selective sxxt bit please ......... leave that to the likes of The Sun eh? 
What are you on Trev? Is there some greater meaning to the whole of your post that I wrecked or did I manage to skew it to mean something entirely different to what you said? 
On the subject of track days and rads, it just doesn't work for me. The joy of Radical driving is using the available grip and the car's downforce to get through the corners really well and keeping the speed up. Every time you come across another car coming to a corner the rhythm is wrecked. The speed differential is so great to most other cars that you are pretty much always coming across slower and often much slower car. So it's hard to get through a corner as a rad can do it, let along string a lap together.
And the closing speeds are mostly just silly and not very safe. I've done a few and mostly with BaT as they are a decent bunch and he half trusts me! If I were trying to get fun out of a rad on trackdays, I'd buy Markymarks old clubbie!
Bert
Someone should organise a track day just for Radicals, perhaps at Silverstone on the GP circuit, wouldn't that be wonderful. Maybe the factory would support it and the sun would shine and the world would be a lovely place for a day... Bert could come along but forget his car. Maybe even wrap his leg up in plaster. There would be bacon buttes available for all FOC.
Them was the days...
Them was the days...
nick997 said:
Someone should organise a track day just for Radicals, perhaps at Silverstone on the GP circuit, wouldn't that be wonderful. Maybe the factory would support it and the sun would shine and the world would be a lovely place for a day... Bert could come along but forget his car. Maybe even wrap his leg up in plaster. There would be bacon buttes available for all FOC.
Them was the days...
Ahh yes, whatever happened to those radical only track days???Them was the days...
Well, the only track day I did in my old Clubbie ( the first time I actually drove it) I got black flagged for overtaking into braking zones which was bobbins as I was still well on the gas, but it goes to show even a Clubsport on a track day if miles faster than most things. To Graham's point, I wouldn't bother with an aero car on a track day as it'd be so frustrating.
. I am beginning to get put off now!Maybe I should buy a reasonably priced car instead or get just a 1300 and stick some crappy worn out slicks on it, maybe it will be ok then and I will not overtake too many people.
Does nobody else on this forum take their radicals on track?
What are the driving standards like on race car test days , do you get wannabe f1 drivers , diving up the inside of you and trying to blck you when on track, or is it fairly safe. That is another option but I will need my race licence, just a bit concerned about how crazy sme people might be, as most track days I have been on have been incident free apart from
the occasional spin.
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